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Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jun 9 @ 11:19 PM ET
What happens if the rumours are true and they bring in Miller?

And not sure about this year but Blues ownership has never been one to spend to the cap.

- Iggysbff


Your numbers (which again, are quite inflated) put the Blues 2.5 million under the cap, needing a 14th forward and 7th defenseman. So after signing them, Blues have 1mil in space. As said above, getting a #1 means dumping Halak, and Allen as backup not Elliott, freeing up 4.5 million in addition to that 1mil. So now we are talking about Blues needing 750k more in cap space assuming Blues had to pay the inflated salaries you suggested. Worst case, Blues would avoid signing a 14th forward and roll with 13 forwards for the year. We have a couple of great prospects in the AHL we can call up if injuries happen.

And Blues got sold last summer, this ownership group isn't the one that has only been spending to the cap floor.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jun 9 @ 11:32 PM ET
Just stop. We don't want Buff.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 9 @ 11:33 PM ET
Your numbers (which again, are quite inflated) put the Blues 2.5 million under the cap, needing a 14th forward and 7th defenseman. So after signing them, Blues have 1mil in space. As said above, getting a #1 means dumping Halak, and Allen as backup not Elliott, freeing up 4.5 million in addition to that 1mil. So now we are talking about Blues needing 750k more in cap space assuming Blues had to pay the inflated salaries you suggested. Worst case, Blues would avoid signing a 14th forward and roll with 13 forwards for the year. We have a couple of great prospects in the AHL we can call up if injuries happen.

And Blues got sold last summer, this ownership group isn't the one that has only been spending to the cap floor.

- Antilles

I think the Blues will figure it out without having to get rid of any of their top talent. I think it'll be tougher than you say though. Allen is not going to sign a 2 way deal. And regardless of RFA/ufa, your boys are going to do their best to get paid.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 9 @ 11:35 PM ET
Just stop. We don't want Buff.
- Rocktane


trudat!!!!!
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jun 9 @ 11:38 PM ET
I think the Blues will figure it out without having to get rid of any of their top talent. I think it'll be tougher than you say though. Allen is not going to sign a 2 way deal. And regardless of RFA/ufa, your boys are going to do their best to get paid.
- Iggysbff


Of course they will do their best to get paid. Just like Oshie, Perron, Steen, & Polak did, and Berglund and Stewart did their first pass at RFA. Look at where all their salaries are. Well under what other teams posters were suggesting they would get; and cap friendly numbers while no one is grossly under or over paid. This summer won't be any different.
acmilano3
Location: lansdale, PA
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jun 9 @ 11:39 PM ET
Yeah the last time they did that it worked out real well. Ruined any relationship for the future players with Nashville, Didn't get the player and got stuck with Luke Schenn and the boys on defence.
- TheLeafsInsider



Schenn had a very good year for the flyers. he was outstanding on many nights. Once they find a puck mover who has quick feet he will be even more valueable which by the way is what we are all talking about here.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 9 @ 11:41 PM ET
Of course they will do their best to get paid. Just like Oshie, Perron, Steen, & Polak did, and Berglund and Stewart did their first pass at RFA. Look at where all their salaries are. Well under what other teams posters were suggesting they would get; and cap friendly numbers while no one is grossly under or over paid. This summer won't be any different.
- Antilles



big difference form the days u guys had hull shanny cujo nedved janney jeff brown etc

they were all paid big $$$
acmilano3
Location: lansdale, PA
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jun 9 @ 11:43 PM ET
St. Louis has 24 million in cap space to sign 4 RFA's with. Signing them all isn't going to be a problem, even if one or two get a massive offer sheet.
- Antilles



of course it will and thats assuming they actually want to spend that money.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Jun 10 @ 12:06 AM ET
Just stop. We don't want Buff.
- Rocktane



The blues will not let AP go. If a team wants a PP quarterback, Shattenkirk is the guy to sign to an offer sheet that the blues cannot match. Someone will give him a 7 year deal at 5 or 5.5/yr.
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:12 AM ET
The blues will not let AP go. If a team wants a PP quarterback, Shattenkirk is the guy to sign to an offer sheet that the blues cannot match. Someone will give him a 7 year deal at 5 or 5.5/yr.
- therealagent


If someone wants to give up a 1st 2nd and 3rd rounder and 7 at 5.5 you let him go. He's certainly good, but worth that? I'm not so sure.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Jun 10 @ 12:36 AM ET
If someone wants to give up a 1st 2nd and 3rd rounder and 7 at 5.5 you let him go. He's certainly good, but worth that? I'm not so sure.
- TheLeafsInsider


If you think your 1st the next year is a late pick anyway, who cares? I don't think he's my first RFA target but you know the Blues will match AP so there's no point trying.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 10 @ 12:43 AM ET
As for that player who the Flyers are really after... well his exit weight at the end of the year was 302lbs.


(frank) that. The Flyers had better not be going after Cheesesteak. That would be worse - much worse - than trading Bob.

LEAFSfan28191
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PEPPER FOREVER!!!!!, SK
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:21 AM ET
If anything the flyers should go for pietrangelo or shattenkirk
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jun 10 @ 1:50 AM ET
Sorry Bill,

I hope you are totally wrong on this one. We do not need anyone with a major weight problem like that. I like Big Buff but why go through all of that. The Flyers just have to find a trade partner in which they win the trade. I would trade the entire team if I knew I going to get a better one back and win the cup. Because, that should be all that matters. I would trade Giroux for the right deal. Multiple high firsts, this year and next, a top 4 forward and a top 4 defender.

The Flyers should amnesty both Bryz and Danny. Give whatever to LA for Bernier.
Try and sign N. Horton and attempt to get another pick in this draft. Question people; Would you trade Giroux for A. Ladd, Z. Begosian, 13th pick and next years #1 from Winnipeg? They get star power and we get 4 players.

- bushhunter



spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 10 @ 6:11 AM ET
Your numbers (which again, are quite inflated) put the Blues 2.5 million under the cap, needing a 14th forward and 7th defenseman. So after signing them, Blues have 1mil in space. As said above, getting a #1 means dumping Halak, and Allen as backup not Elliott, freeing up 4.5 million in addition to that 1mil. So now we are talking about Blues needing 750k more in cap space assuming Blues had to pay the inflated salaries you suggested. Worst case, Blues would avoid signing a 14th forward and roll with 13 forwards for the year. We have a couple of great prospects in the AHL we can call up if injuries happen.

And Blues got sold last summer, this ownership group isn't the one that has only been spending to the cap floor.

- Antilles


It seems to me the Blues have an obvious transition option and that is to move J.Bo at the draft. He should net a better return than the pick (#22) and prospects that St. Louis dealt to Calgary to get him just a few months ago.

Would the Flyers offer up their first round pick (#11) and a good prospect? I think so.
Ottawa and the Blues have a long history of doing deals and Ottawa is loaded with prospects. Would Ottawa offer their first round pick (#17) and a good prospect, they should.

St. Louis has lots of options and they are in control of the decision making. My guess is they have already plotted out their "what if" contingency strategies.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jun 10 @ 7:18 AM ET
It seems to me the Blues have an obvious transition option and that is to move J.Bo at the draft. He should net a better return than the pick (#22) and prospects that St. Louis dealt to Calgary to get him just a few months ago.

Would the Flyers offer up their first round pick (#11) and a good prospect? I think so.
Ottawa and the Blues have a long history of doing deals and Ottawa is loaded with prospects. Would Ottawa offer their first round pick (#17) and a good prospect, they should.

St. Louis has lots of options and they are in control of the decision making. My guess is they have already plotted out their "what if" contingency strategies.

- spatso
I read somewhere ottawa was in love with Oshie ,and tried to make a trade to get him.Before he signed his last rfa deal.
Ottawa doesnt offer sheet ,they draft and develop their own tallent and use it to make fair deals ,this allows them greater flexablity to talk to all 30 teams about aquiring players .

I think Philly needs to can the finacial bullying,and get back to being a honest broker for tallent
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 10 @ 9:02 AM ET
Can we just snag Bogosian a forget about Byfuglien?
BernieKorch
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Shoey, PA
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 10 @ 9:15 AM ET
I think your wrong and being you blog once every 72 days makes sense. The need a puck moving defensemen. so yuor telling everyone the Flyers are trying to get a 302 lb puck moving defensemen. Hmmmm makes sense!
Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 10 @ 9:22 AM ET
I think your wrong and being you blog once every 72 days makes sense. The need a puck moving defensemen. so yuor telling everyone the Flyers are trying to get a 302 lb puck moving defensemen. Hmmmm makes sense!
- BernieKorch


Once every 72 days? How dare you!!!

There have been rumours for awhile that the Flyers like Byfuglien, perhaps you don't see that I'm suggesting one way they may go and get him.

BernieKorch
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Shoey, PA
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 10 @ 9:49 AM ET
Once every 72 days? How dare you!!!

There have been rumours for awhile that the Flyers like Byfuglien, perhaps you don't see that I'm suggesting one way they may go and get him.


- Peter.Tessier


I understand there have been rumors around this but what do they need more? A puck moving defenseman or a 302 lb paper weight?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 10 @ 10:05 AM ET
Homer said the Flyers were looking to get bigger.
No one is much bigger then Bfyglien.



Sorry guys I think the blogger is on to something here.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 10 @ 10:08 AM ET
leave "Bill" out of this blog, thank you.
- watsonnostaw



BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 10 @ 10:19 AM ET
All the smoke and mirrors just to get Byfuglien? Wishful thinking, much?
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 10 @ 10:20 AM ET
You will get Keith Ballard after his buyout. And find Ryan Parent and Oscars Bartulis and bring them back.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 10 @ 10:23 AM ET
It seems to me the Blues have an obvious transition option and that is to move J.Bo at the draft. He should net a better return than the pick (#22) and prospects that St. Louis dealt to Calgary to get him just a few months ago.

Would the Flyers offer up their first round pick (#11) and a good prospect? I think so.
Ottawa and the Blues have a long history of doing deals and Ottawa is loaded with prospects. Would Ottawa offer their first round pick (#17) and a good prospect, they should.

St. Louis has lots of options and they are in control of the decision making. My guess is they have already plotted out their "what if" contingency strategies.

- spatso


For 1 year of JBo at $6.6mm? No way.
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