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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
I mean you won't find an oiler fan that doubts Gagner more than I do. But the guy was just on pace for like 65 points + a 7th overall pick in the deepest draft in a decade.

That's not laughable

- TheNugeIsHuge


he'd have led the coyotes in scoring by 8 points...
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 22 @ 9:04 PM ET
maybe if klefbom had played a full season we could judge. Gormley had a pretty good year in the AHL. I saw him at the memorial cup last year for shawinigan. He looked really good to me.

At his point in time, may it be thanks to Klefbom's shoulder injury, Gormley>klefbom

- TheNugeIsHuge


that very well may be at the present time. and i fully agree that its tough to tell due to so many factors.
but none of these change the fact that i think klefboms ceiling is higher.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 22 @ 9:10 PM ET
that very well may be at the present time. and i fully agree that its tough to tell due to so many factors.
but none of these change the fact that i think klefboms ceiling is higher.

- hugefemale dog77


if all you've seen is Klefbom at the WJCs I don't think we can make that assumption
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 22 @ 9:14 PM ET
he'd have led the coyotes in scoring by 8 points...
- hugefemale dog77

Not if he played there
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 22 @ 9:17 PM ET
Not if he played there
- AdamFrench


To me Nashville and Phoenix represent great spots for Gagner to go. I put forth a trade to Nashville last night, but in your opinion what is a good trade between PHX and EDM? We need NHL ready D and size/defensive awareness with offensive upside down the middle. I think Martin Hanzal would be a good fit in Edmonton. Maybe Gagner can help Boedker get to that next step.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 22 @ 9:19 PM ET
To me Nashville and Phoenix represent great spots for Gagner to go. I put forth a trade to Nashville last night, but in your opinion what is a good trade between PHX and EDM? We need NHL ready D and size/defensive awareness with offensive upside down the middle. I think Martin Hanzal would be a good fit in Edmonton. Maybe Gagner can help Boedker get to that next step.
- ystoil

Bleh darned if I know, probably depends entirely on if Tippett re-ups. They have a type-cast to their players and Gagner isn't in that mold right now.

I'd kind of like it if they made a run for him, but Hanzal is likely not getting moved even if he's a 6'6 china doll
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

May 22 @ 9:25 PM ET
that very well may be at the present time. and i fully agree that its tough to tell due to so many factors.
but none of these change the fact that i think klefboms ceiling is higher.

- hugefemale dog77


Klefbom = oleksiak or how would you guys put it?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 22 @ 9:30 PM ET
Bleh darned if I know, probably depends entirely on if Tippett re-ups. They have a type-cast to their players and Gagner isn't in that mold right now.

I'd kind of like it if they made a run for him, but Hanzal is likely not getting moved even if he's a 6'6 china doll

- AdamFrench


F, I just wish it was draft day already.

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 22 @ 9:32 PM ET
F, I just wish it was draft day already.
- ystoil

Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 22 @ 9:32 PM ET
Klefbom = oleksiak or how would you guys put it?
- NoobasaurusRex

Very good comparison.
OilHead1989
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Oil Country, NT
Joined: 07.10.2010

May 22 @ 9:37 PM ET
What bout we trade our 1st Gagne for Carolina's 1st if Nichushkin still there and we take him?
pbrsimps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2011

May 22 @ 9:39 PM ET
I think he'll be like a Ryan Callahan type forward.
- Nucker101


Hmm maybe but less pest and a center who is dominant at faceoffs
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 22 @ 9:43 PM ET
What bout we trade our 1st Gagne for Carolina's 1st if Nichushkin still there and we take him?
- OilHead1989

Because that's retarded. He'll most likely still be there at #7 and if not another really good player will be. Gags is worth way more than moving up 2 spots.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 22 @ 9:46 PM ET
Not if he played there
- AdamFrench

it was the easy counterpoint to the mong coyotes fan who laughed at the proposal without giving anything of value back.
that and the laughing emoticon retort of course.
but yes, you're probably right..
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 22 @ 9:49 PM ET
What bout we trade our 1st Gagne for Carolina's 1st if Nichushkin still there and we take him?
- OilHead1989


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 22 @ 9:49 PM ET
Hmm maybe but less pest and a center who is dominant at faceoffs
- pbrsimps



Yeah, different positions, but both guys play with a lot of heart, all situations and have skill. Similar size too, though Horvat is a bit bigger and could even add a few more pounds if he wanted.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 22 @ 9:55 PM ET
What bout we trade our 1st Gagne for Carolina's 1st if Nichushkin still there and we take him?
- OilHead1989


you'd use gagner to move from 7 to 5?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 22 @ 9:56 PM ET
you'd use gagner to move from 7 to 5?
- TheNugeIsHuge

The scouts boner would have to be pretty (frank)ing massive to pull a nuts move like that...
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 22 @ 9:57 PM ET
Klefbom = oleksiak or how would you guys put it?
- NoobasaurusRex


only saw oleksiak play twice. Only seen klefbom play twice lol. I have no idea.

But odds are if you're 6'7 can skate decently and move the puck well, you're gonna have a good, long career. More ??s around klefbom
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 22 @ 9:58 PM ET
The scouts boner would have to be pretty (frank)ing massive to pull a nuts move like that...
- AdamFrench

ah hyuh.

I'm no fan of gagner but that's unfair to value him that low
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

May 22 @ 10:07 PM ET
The scouts boner would have to be pretty (frank)ing massive to pull a nuts move like that...
- AdamFrench


According to Laughs, Stu MacGregor's penis is comparable in size to Richard Cloutiers.
pbrsimps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2011

May 22 @ 10:07 PM ET
Yeah, different positions, but both guys play with a lot of heart, all situations and have skill. Similar size too, though Horvat is a bit bigger and could even add a few more pounds if he wanted.
- Nucker101


Ya, a lot of heart. Bo will probs get the C for the Kight's next year with Harrington gone. Also, Bo does look alot bigger than he's listed. He plays pretty big, but as he gets older, he'll probably throw the body around even more. I think a safe pick, but unsure of upside. Almost guaranteed 3rd or 4th line center/faceoff specialist/pker but he has skill too. Is it enough to be a top 6 center? We'll find out, but he has the tools, work ethic and overall attitude to make it happen
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

May 22 @ 10:10 PM ET
Ya, a lot of heart. Bo will probs get the C for the Kight's next year with Harrington gone. Also, Bo does look alot bigger than he's listed. He plays pretty big, but as he gets older, he'll probably throw the body around even more. I think a safe pick, but unsure of upside. Almost guaranteed 3rd or 4th line center/faceoff specialist/pker but he has skill too. Is it enough to be a top 6 center? We'll find out, but he has the tools, work ethic and overall attitude to make it happen
- pbrsimps


We could use one or two of those...

Anthony Mantha is another player would would be a good fit for the Oilers
pbrsimps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2011

May 22 @ 10:13 PM ET
We could use one or two of those...
- Reveen


Would love to see him drafted by the Oilers. Just dont take him from the Knights yet! Let him finish in junior. By then will be very capable of third line duties i think. Looking forward to see how he does next year.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
According to Laughs, Stu MacGregor's penis is comparable in size to Richard Cloutiers.
- Reveen


Accurate statement.
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