You have a nice couple prospects in Ritchie and Chiasson.

Would a 7th and both seconds or the 7th and a prospect like Musil for 10th and Ritchie/Chiasson be fair? I guess it depends on the talent drop between Lindholm and say Ristolainen is.
- ystoil

love to have ritchie. theyd be crazy to deal him

7th, and musil

10th and ritchie

love to have ritchie. doubt they do it

7th and musil

10th and ritchie


- hugefemale dog77

Be nice eh. For me, to move down we would need a prospect close to NHL prime time that fits a need such as a big body scorer. I would prefer that than trading down and getting an extra pick.

1st+ Gagner won't get the Oilers Yandle.
- WaterBoy

that sounds like pretty fair value. PHO has great defence. Poor offence. They get their new 1C and a top tier prospect. Find better value somewhere else

If EDM trades down, they could probably do something like 7th for WIN's 13th and 43rd.

Then maybe trade the 37+43rd for like the 26th or 27th to take Lazar and take Horvat at 13.

Either that or take two pretty good guys with 37 and 43

If EDM trades down, they could probably do something like 7th for WIN's 13th and 43rd.

Then maybe trade the 37+43rd for like the 26th or 27th to take Lazar and take Horvat at 13.

Either that or take two pretty good guys with 37 and 43
- TheNugeIsHuge

I'm okay with this as long as we are certain we can move into the 1st round again. Maybe take a flyer on a goalie like Fucale.

You have a nice couple prospects in Ritchie and Chiasson.

Would a 7th and both seconds or the 7th and a prospect like Musil for 10th and Ritchie/Chiasson be fair? I guess it depends on the talent drop between Lindholm and say Ristolainen is.
- ystoil

I doubt we move chiasson after all the hype he had then Scoring in his first 7 games and dominating play. He's fit in perfectly on the first line with benn which Is pretty scary for opposing teams. Ritchie on the other hand I would assume is 50/50, I'm guessing they give him a season in the ahl to see how his game translates an what his full value is.
I'm not sure moving either of those players is worth 3 spots in the draft. I'd rather have a top dman and a top 6 power forward than a 2c. I'm thinking maybe our 2nd and maybe a 4th.

When I look up past drafts and what the normal rate for moving up a few spots has usually been a second and a later pick. Not saying you guys have to trade us the pick for that, but I wouldn't expect a young roster player whith high upside to move up 3 spots. I just don't want buff or nj taking him befor we can get him

love to have ritchie. theyd be crazy to deal him

7th, and musil

10th and ritchie


- hugefemale dog77

We have no need for musil

this. i went and had a look as soon as i read the blog too...

and to use his age as a detraction, while at the same time ignore the fact that its been spent playing against men in a pro league is pretty funny.
- hugefemale dog77

I'm assuming we're not counting guys like schultz, brodin, and gardiner who have lost rookie status after this season? Than Gormley is about the only guy with the three already mentioned i would put ahead of klefbom

I doubt we move chiasson after all the hype he had then Scoring in his first 7 games and dominating play. He's fit in perfectly on the first line with benn which Is pretty scary for opposing teams. Ritchie on the other hand I would assume is 50/50, I'm guessing they give him a season in the ahl to see how his game translates an what his full value is.
I'm not sure moving either of those players is worth 3 spots in the draft. I'd rather have a top dman and a top 6 power forward than a 2c. I'm thinking maybe our 2nd and maybe a 4th.

When I look up past drafts and what the normal rate for moving up a few spots has usually been a second and a later pick. Not saying you guys have to trade us the pick for that, but I wouldn't expect a young roster player whith high upside to move up 3 spots. I just don't want buff or nj taking him befor we can get him
- NoobasaurusRex

Fair enough. I guess the second round pick and the 4th would be enticing and maybe allow us to get another first.

You are correct in that it's usually later round picks to move, that's why I added in Musil who was a second rounder to maybe make it more enticing.

Oleksiak looks to be developing nicely.

I'm okay with this as long as we are certain we can move into the 1st round again. Maybe take a flyer on a goalie like Fucale.
- ystoil

I'd rather take Jarry at 52. Jarry had ridiculous stats this year, although no Lowe, Gernat, Musil, maybe Reinhart on D for EDM next year so they'll drop a sh1t load.

13-Horvat
26-Lazar
52-Jarry

that's a pretty solid draft there. Don't know if they'd need horvat AND lazar. I think lazar is the lesser version of horvat.

Maybe horvat and morin, or horvat and mccoshen

I'd rather take Jarry at 52. Jarry had ridiculous stats this year, although no Lowe, Gernat, Musil, maybe Reinhart on D for EDM next year so they'll drop a sh1t load.

13-Horvat
26-Lazar
52-Jarry

that's a pretty solid draft there. Don't know if they'd need horvat AND lazar. I think lazar is the lesser version of horvat.

Maybe horvat and morin, or horvat and mccoshen
- TheNugeIsHuge

I think Lazar will get scooped up before 26. Horvat looks like a nice prospect for sure.

I think Lazar will get scooped up before 26. Horvat looks like a nice prospect for sure.
- Nucker101

yea that was a bit of a stretch. If they were taking Horvat, Mccoshen or Morin'd probably make more sense anyway

I'd rather take Jarry at 52. Jarry had ridiculous stats this year, although no Lowe, Gernat, Musil, maybe Reinhart on D for EDM next year so they'll drop a sh1t load.

13-Horvat
26-Lazar
52-Jarry

that's a pretty solid draft there. Don't know if they'd need horvat AND lazar. I think lazar is the lesser version of horvat.

Maybe horvat and morin, or horvat and mccoshen
- TheNugeIsHuge

I wouldn't read much into Jarry's stats. He played with a stacked team in front of him, especially the defense. I'd maybe look in Europe for a goalie.

If EDM trades down, they could probably do something like 7th for WIN's 13th and 43rd.

Then maybe trade the 37+43rd for like the 26th or 27th to take Lazar and take Horvat at 13.

Either that or take two pretty good guys with 37 and 43
- TheNugeIsHuge

That would be a pretty good plan, but do you think Horvat will be around at 13? I'm starting to think that he will go in the 8-12 range after his playoffs. He's would be an amazing fit in edm though.

That would be a pretty good plan, but do you think Horvat will be around at 13? I'm starting to think that he will go in the 8-12 range after his playoffs. He's would be an amazing fit in edm though.
- pbrsimps

If Monahan is off the board, don't be surprised if Horvat jumps to 7. Not saying I'd take him there but stranger things have happened. He is ranked as 10th on ISS.

If Monahan is off the board, don't be surprised if Horvat jumps to 7. Not saying I'd take him there but stranger things have happened. He is ranked as 10th on ISS.
- ystoil

Ya I was talking to an ohl guy who said he doesnt think Horvat will fall past 10th. All you need is one team to like him. I think he could be a poor mans Toews.

Fair enough. I guess the second round pick and the 4th would be enticing and maybe allow us to get another first.

You are correct in that it's usually later round picks to move, that's why I added in Musil who was a second rounder to maybe make it more enticing.

Oleksiak looks to be developing nicely.
- ystoil

Yea, I'm glad they arent rushing him. Him and nemeth have been beasts with the baby stars. I'm always curious as to how much people know about our prospects being that we arent exactly a popular team and talked about very much.

Ya I was talking to an ohl guy who said he doesnt think Horvat will fall past 10th. All you need is one team to like him. I think he could be a poor mans Toews.
- pbrsimps

I think he'll be like a Ryan Callahan type forward.

I think he'll be like a Ryan Callahan type forward.
- Nucker101

mini Backes

I'm assuming we're not counting guys like schultz, brodin, and gardiner who have lost rookie status after this season? Than Gormley is about the only guy with the three already mentioned i would put ahead of klefbom
- pbrsimps

exactly. cant consider any of those guys "prospects" anymore.
schultz and brodin have played over 45 games in the NHL and it woulda been more had it not been a shortened season..
gardiner not even close. hes played like 135 and lost his rookie status before this year even started.

i think the better prospect between klefbom and gormley might be debateable as you say.
i think brandon's a little more of a sure bet. but i think that's mostly due to friction of distance for oscar. that said, i think klefboms ceiling is higher

exactly. cant consider any of those guys "prospects" anymore.
schultz and brodin have played over 45 games in the pros and woulda been more had it not been a shortened season..
gardiner not even close. hes played like 135 and lost his rookie status before this year even started.

i think gormleys debateable. i think he's a little more of a sure bet, but his ceiling isnt as high as oscars imo.
- hugefemale dog77

his ceiling is definitely better than klefbom's. This guy could have gone top 5 in '10

his ceiling is definitely better than klefbom's. This guy could have gone top 5 in '10
- TheNugeIsHuge

i dont care what spot they were drafted in. after the fact it's a meaningless number.

and from the little ive seen of both (2012 wjc's+a few here and there for klefbom / 2012 mem cup and wjc's+ a few here and there for gormley)i disagree

that sounds like pretty fair value. PHO has great defence. Poor offence. They get their new 1C and a top tier prospect. Find better value somewhere else
- TheNugeIsHuge

- WaterBoy

I mean you won't find an oiler fan that doubts Gagner more than I do. But the guy was just on pace for like 65 points + a 7th overall pick in the deepest draft in a decade.

That's not laughable

i dont care what spot they were drafted in. after the fact it's a meaningless number.

and from the little ive seen of both (2012 wjc's+a few here and there for klefbom / 2012 mem cup and wjc's+ a few here and there for gormley)i disagree
- hugefemale dog77

maybe if klefbom had played a full season we could judge. Gormley had a pretty good year in the AHL. I saw him at the memorial cup last year for shawinigan. He looked really good to me.

At his point in time, may it be thanks to Klefbom's shoulder injury, Gormley>klefbom