He's a Right hand shot but plays offwing.
- Iggysbff

I'm sure he's versatile. That's why I think if the Oilers make that move then he should be one of the players they should draft.

Our d prospects is our deepest position. If we need d help then our whole prospect system is (frank)ed.
- Lahey

Not deep with NHL talent.

People forget that Tampa, Carolina and Philly are basically in the same situation as Edmonton. All have a solid group of forwards and all looking for immediate help on Defense. So saying the Oilers should trade 7th plus for a top 2 guy? Well 4-5 other teams are trying to do the same.

News just out.

Canucks fire AV, Bowness and Brown....

What do you think about the oilers trading their 1st, Hemsky/Gagner (either one), and our late second round to Columbus for two of their picks (14th & 19th overall)? Having doing that, we could select a few players. Players like Zykov (even though he's a LW he's still amazing), Ryan Pulock (offensive defenseman), Samuel Morin (massive standing at 6'7 and 205lbs) or Freddy Gauthier (huge centerman who would fill a big hole for the Oilers). What you said sounds great. But Im just wondering what others think about this if it were to happen.
- mbxiphos1527

gagner and the 7th for the 14 and 19th?!!

we give up the 2 best pieces in the deal.

why god why!!??

There's talk they want Nishuchkin, so who knows.
- Lahey

I'd be shocked if the canes took Nichushkin. Have only taken one Russian in franchise history and that was in 01'. Sorta like a Columbus and what would have been yakupov last year. Oh well, we'll see

I'm sure he's versatile. That's why I think if the Oilers make that move then he should be one of the players they should draft.
- mbxiphos1527

I'd still rather William Carrier for a future 2 LW. If he hadn't been injured he would be top ten. I'm a little worried that he wont slip to our 37th pick though as he has climbed back up in some rankings. One of those guys ranked anywhere from 10-40...

This team is pretty much done rebuilding through the draft, I don't think they will doing anything to add a player that can fill a need on the roster through the draft this year. There is a huge need for replacement players though, as the 2 best ones we have will probably be on the big club this year, and we need players ready 2-3 years from now.
Nope. No moving up to try try and get a guy that can play this fall. No chance. Mac T will simply draft and develop, and fix this roster through trades and free agency.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: The Oilers aren't a playoff team next season, so they'd still have time to find a better 2nd line center answer.
- Maxbone

they should be though.

and your proposals of forever going after the next kid in exchange for nhl talent will never get us over the hump.
the drafting portion of this rebuild should be over. unless we get our socks blown off by some kid in camp, we should assume 2-3 years minimum of development for pretty much every kid we draft from now on.

the oilers absolutely need to make the playoffs next year.
absolute and total disaster for the organization if they dont

gagner and the 7th for the 14 and 19th?!!

we give up the 2 best pieces in the deal.

why god why!!??
- hugefemale dog77

Haha well, I also said Hemsky. I'm sure they'd take Hemsky.

gagner and the 7th for the 14 and 19th?!!

we give up the 2 best pieces in the deal.

why god why!!??
- hugefemale dog77

Because people seem to think we can fill key roles with 18yo draftees forever and still improve. Truth is,we can't, not for a bit now,anyway.

Not deep with NHL talent.

People forget that Tampa, Carolina and Philly are basically in the same situation as Edmonton. All have a solid group of forwards and all looking for immediate help on Defense. So saying the Oilers should trade 7th plus for a top 2 guy? Well 4-5 other teams are trying to do the same.

News just out.

Canucks fire AV, Bowness and Brown....
- Iggysbff

That's two different things though. Either way I don't care as if we take a d-man I'll be happy, if we take a center I'll be happy if we trade it for help now I'll be happy.

This team is pretty much done rebuilding through the draft, I don't think they will doing anything to add a player that can fill a need on the roster through the draft this year. There is a huge need for replacement players though, as the 2 best ones we have will probably be on the big club this year, and we need players ready 2-3 years from now.
Nope. No moving up to try try and get a guy that can play this fall. No chance. Mac T will simply draft and develop, and fix this roster through trades and free agency.
- Jeropotato

oh god thank you.

the crazy part is i think we're in the minority here... i hate everyone

That's two different things though. Either way I don't care as if we take a d-man I'll be happy, if we take a center I'll be happy if we trade it for help now I'll be happy.
- Lahey

sounds like your easy to please then!

I'd be shocked if the canes took Nichushkin. Have only taken one Russian in franchise history and that was in 01'. Sorta like a Columbus and what would have been yakupov last year. Oh well, we'll see
- RedC21

They just sold the farm to keep Semin, so I don't know that they really give a (frank) about him being Russian.

They might when they see Semin disappear

they should be though.

and your proposals of forever going after the next kid in exchange nhl talent will never get us over the hump.

the oilers absolutely need to make the playoffs next year.
absolute and total disaster for the organization if they dont
- hugefemale dog77

100%. We don't need to draft to fill this year. BPA, let him develop, and if and when there is a spot for him on the big club(AND HE HAS EARNED IT), then great, we have flexibility to make trades in the future.
Enough of this trade Gagner and replace with an 18yo nonsense, whether it's Monahhan or Barkov or whomever the Hell we drat.

I'd still rather William Carrier for a future 2 LW. If he hadn't been injured he would be top ten. I'm a little worried that he wont slip to our 37th pick though as he has climbed back up in some rankings. One of those guys ranked anywhere from 10-40...
- Iggysbff

I agree. But we'll still have a good chance at him I'm sure. We could try trading our two second picks to a team who's picking late in the first round and grab him that way? In that sense we'd be drafting 3 players in the first round. But I wouldn't have the slightest problem drafting Carrier if we did that.

they should be though.

and your proposals of forever going after the next kid in exchange nhl talent will never get us over the hump.

the oilers absolutely need to make the playoffs next year.
absolute and total disaster for the organization if they dont
- hugefemale dog77

They are not far off. It doesn't take a whole pile of deals to change the team. IF they get a good top 4 dman, another top 6 winger and a few upgrades on bottom 6 they will definitely be in next year.

oh god thank you.

the crazy part is i think we're in the minority here... i hate everyone
- hugefemale dog77

God has (frank) all to do with it. It's (UN)Common sense.

Haha well, I also said Hemsky. I'm sure they'd take Hemsky.
- mbxiphos1527

id consider that for nothing more than dumping hemmers salary to go after someone else in free agency. especially if we're not completely set on 1 guy at the 7 spot.

sounds like your easy to please then!
- hugefemale dog77

Going into this draft if we are picking we don't need a player right now, at 7 we shouldn't expect that. This isn't like past years where our 1st pick has to make the team and show glimpses of greatness early.

We really just need to be picking the best player available, whether that guy plays in 13-14 or not until 15-16 or 16-17. There are a lot of these players out there and to say we have to take a center or have to take a d-man is just foolish. Especially considering in 3 years who knows what this team will need.

How bout we make this the last year of drafting and struggle next season. Yeah, it sucks. But oh well. We work with what we can and then bring up the players we drafted from this year. Say whatever you want, I believe that it'll be the best way to go. We're not going to acquire any big names without trading away our core pieces. Since that's the case I'd rather just do without.

100%. We don't need to draft to fill this year. BPA, let him develop, and if and when there is a spot for him on the big club(AND HE HAS EARNED IT), then great, we have flexibility to make trades in the future.
Enough of this trade Gagner and replace with an 18yo nonsense, whether it's Monahhan or Barkov or whomever the Hell we drat.
- Jeropotato

good post

i edited the previous one with this, but im gonna say it again to drive the point home furthur..

the drafting portion of this rebuild should be over.
unless we get our socks blown off by some kid in camp, we should assume 2-3 years minimum of development for pretty much every kid we draft from now on.

oh god thank you.

the crazy part is i think we're in the minority here... i hate everyone
- hugefemale dog77

I'm a Flames guy so take this for what it's worth. I agree, the building-thru-the-draft part should be over. I think you guys would be better off trying to move out some of your redundant parts along with whatever other assets you can move, including your 1st, to get the pieces you need to balance out your team.

I also agree that if you guys continue to struggle for wins, you will be right back where you started 4 years ago with a team that has accepted a losing culture; or at least are well down that path. At the very least you need to be fighting until the last few games, 1 or 2 at most, for a PO spot. This years end for you wasn't a good sign. In a PO spot and then lose 10 of 11; not good.

id consider that for nothing more than dumping hemmers salary to go after someone else in free agency. especially if we're not completely set on 1 guy at the 7 spot.
- hugefemale dog77

Agreed. I'm fine with that.

This team is pretty much done rebuilding through the draft, I don't think they will doing anything to add a player that can fill a need on the roster through the draft this year. There is a huge need for replacement players though, as the 2 best ones we have will probably be on the big club this year, and we need players ready 2-3 years from now.
Nope. No moving up to try try and get a guy that can play this fall. No chance. Mac T will simply draft and develop, and fix this roster through trades and free agency.
- Jeropotato

Agreed.

Drafting Barkov or Monahan and hoping they step in next year is ridiculous.

I'd do as I mentioned. trade the picks. Draft Gauthier, Morin, Carrier. All of them back to Junior next year. In two years Gauthier slots into Horcs spot. Morin into N. Schultz spot. Carrier into top 6 LW.

Next years line up

Horton/Nuge/Ebs
Hall/Gags/Yak
MPS/Horc/ New RW
New LW/New C/ Brown
Smytty

Schultz/ New Dman
Petry/ New Dman (trade SMid)
Schultz/Klef
Potter

Duby.
New Back up

They are not far off. It doesn't take a whole pile of deals to change the team. IF they get a good top 4 dman, another top 6 winger and a few upgrades on bottom 6 they will definitely be in next year.
- Iggysbff

im extremely hesitant to say definetely. this team has let me down on many occasions over the years...
but i agree completely on your proposed moves and what's needed. and i think if those in fact happen, we got a shot