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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 20 @ 10:31 PM ET
Stolarz has been pulled.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 20 @ 10:31 PM ET
Stolarz has NOT played well today at all
5-3 Port now, 4 very stoppable goals

He gets pulled. Prob won't see him again in the Mem cup

- FLYERSROCK!


I thought he played decent but not great, the last Zadorov turnover was the end of his day
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 20 @ 10:33 PM ET
Any good rumors on twitter on who might be willing to take the risk and draft Nichushkin?
- ravishingone


Nope, still a bit early for some of that stuff.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

May 20 @ 10:35 PM ET
I thought he played decent but not great, the last Zadorov turnover was the end of his day
- ob18

Been watching here entire game, he hasn't played well. 4 very stoppable goals
Didnt look good from the start of the game.

Yes it was a bad turnover by Zadorov but a goalie needs to make a good save once in awhile.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

May 20 @ 10:36 PM ET
Btw Bo Horvat is really good...
So is Max Domi

There are so many good prospects this year it's incredible. You can't do any wrong with a top 15 pick this year. Whoever the Flyer get I will be very happy with
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 20 @ 10:36 PM ET
Been watching here entire game, he hasn't played well. 4 very stoppable goals
Didnt look good from the start of the game.

Yes it was a bad turnover by Zadorov but a goalie needs to make a good save once in awhile.

- FLYERSROCK!


I still didn't think it was that "bad" but he clearly needed to be better. Better make sure they add more goalies to the system.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 10:38 PM ET
Upon thinking about it, don't we already have a Zadorov in Lauridsen? They seem like similar players. I think I'd rather go Pulock if it was a choice between the two.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 20 @ 10:39 PM ET
Agreed
- ob18

FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 20 @ 10:39 PM ET
Upon thinking about it, don't we already have a Zadorov in Lauridsen? They seem like similar players. I think I'd rather go Pulock if it was a choice between the two.
- JAKEw1234

Difference is Oli will be a bottom pairing guy and Zadorov will be a top pairing guy
Huge difference.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 20 @ 10:40 PM ET
Been watching here entire game, he hasn't played well. 4 very stoppable goals
Didnt look good from the start of the game.

Yes it was a bad turnover by Zadorov but a goalie needs to make a good save once in awhile.

- FLYERSROCK!


Stolarz has gotten worse each round of the playoffs and now the Memorial Cup. It was a tall order to have him come in and take over the #1 spot on a team like London.

Can only hope he learns from this & what it takes to even have success at the CHL level.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

May 20 @ 10:40 PM ET
Upon thinking about it, don't we already have a Zadorov in Lauridsen? They seem like similar players. I think I'd rather go Pulock if it was a choice between the two.
- JAKEw1234


No. Zadorov is far more highly touted, with far more potential than Lauridsen.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 20 @ 10:40 PM ET

- Jsaquella


Ahh you found the sick play
FLYERSROCK!
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May 20 @ 10:41 PM ET
I still didn't think it was that "bad" but he clearly needed to be better. Better make sure they add more goalies to the system.
- ob18

Just saying 2/4 bad goals he allowed were short side. Short side goals should never ever, ever go in. And when they do it is considered a bad goal. Unless it's an absolute rocket bar down or something like that.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 10:43 PM ET
Difference is Oli will be a bottom pairing guy and Zadorov will be a top pairing guy
Huge difference.

- FLYERSROCK!

It's not guarenteed that Zadorov will be a top pairing guy. I thought his big seller was that his *potential* was unreal, not his current talent.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.20.2007

May 20 @ 10:43 PM ET
Just saying 2/4 bad goals he allowed were short side. Short side goals should never ever, ever go in. And when they do it is considered a bad goal. Unless it's an absolute rocket bar down or something like that.
- FLYERSROCK!


His reactions on them were very slow. No doubt he has to do better
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 20 @ 10:45 PM ET
russ cohen and shane milloy think there could be as many as "4 franchise players" in the top 7...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 20 @ 10:46 PM ET
It's not guarenteed that Zadorov will be a top pairing guy. I thought his big seller was that his *potential* was unreal, not his current talent.
- JAKEw1234


Yes, his potential is massive compared to Lauridsen. Lauridsen might make a decent 3rd pair guy, Zadorov will be a disappointment if he isn't at least a very good top four guy, who plays in all situations.

Also, Zadorov has been very good in the playoffs & Memorial Cup tourney...his stock is rising, almost as much as Horvat and Domi
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 10:46 PM ET
russ cohen and shane milloy think there could be as many as "4 franchise players" in the top 7...
- isaiah520

Well that's a bit obvious with Drouin, Mackinnon, and Jones.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 10:47 PM ET
Yes, his potential is massive compared to Lauridsen. Lauridsen might make a decent 3rd pair guy, Zadorov will be a disappointment if he isn't at least a very good top four guy, who plays in all situations.

Also, Zadorov has been very good in the playoffs & Memorial Cup tourney...his stock is rising, almost as much as Horvat and Domi

- Jsaquella

So Zadorov, or Pulock?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 20 @ 10:48 PM ET
So Zadorov, or Pulock?
- JAKEw1234


Right now, I'd take Pulock for one reason. Hockey sense. Pulock's is off the charts. Zadorov could easily end up the better NHLer, though.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 10:50 PM ET
Right now, I'd take Pulock for one reason. Hockey sense. Pulock's is off the charts. Zadorov could easily end up the better NHLer, though.
- Jsaquella

So not at all for the slap shot?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 20 @ 10:51 PM ET
Well that's a bit obvious with Drouin, Mackinnon, and Jones.
- JAKEw1234

barkov was the big riser on both of their April lists
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 20 @ 10:53 PM ET
So not at all for the slap shot?
- JAKEw1234


Nope, because Zadorov has a damned good shot as well.

Hockey sense is generally something that can't be taught and also tends to ensure a long and very good NHL career. A huge slap shot is like a heated seat in a car...nice to have, but it sure isn't make or break.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 20 @ 10:57 PM ET
Final

Portland - 6
London - 3

Leier with the goal and 2 assists

Stolarz had 26 saves (pulled in the 3rd)
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 10:57 PM ET
Nope, because Zadorov has a damned good shot as well.

Hockey sense is generally something that can't be taught and also tends to ensure a long and very good NHL career. A huge slap shot is like a heated seat in a car...nice to have, but it sure isn't make or break.

- Jsaquella

Hockey sense is something we'll be losing when Kimmo retires. It'd be good to inject some more into the roster.
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