Which is why he held up on the hit, genius.

Get over the Hossa thing, mmmkay?
- Team_Teal

Hey homer.. where did he hold up? From every angle he drove right through his head and as Stoll tried to get upright he lifted the shoulder to make sure he got him in the head.

Sharks are better without that clown. They certainly look more dangerous tonight. Should be a great game.

Funny how many people have this attitude also cheered for Stevens when he scrambled Lindros brain.
- rugdnit

Stevens Legacy has always been tarnished. He is nothing but Dale Hunter with Cup rings

Raffi Torres has a long history of being ahead hunting scumbag. He has no equity or cache left to garner any kind of benefit of the doubt.

He made contact with the head. Everyone saying that if it wasnt Torres, it would not be much of issue may be right. But because of who he is and what he has done he deserves everything coming to him.

Thank god for Gomez
- Alexzanki

never heard that before, 1st time for everything I guess

Raffi Torres has a long history of being ahead hunting scumbag. He has no equity or cache left to garner any kind of benefit of the doubt.

He made contact with the head. Everyone saying that if it wasnt Torres, it would not be much of issue may be right. But because of who he is and what he has done he deserves everything coming to him.
- furso27

Been watching Raffi his whole career and sadly its true. He was a bust as a 1st round pick pwr forward and has gradually stopped scoring in lieu of just cherry picking hits.

Skating with your head up, now there's a novel idea! Can't say I've ever heard of doing that... Stoll if you had your head up it wouldn't hurt so bad from it hitting the ice after Torres hit your shoulder while you were staring at your shoelaces...
- svolheim

Stoll does skate with his head up. He gloved a puck and was getting it out of the D-Zone by putting it down on the ice in front of him so he could skate off with it. Torres saw this, knew that Stoll was in a vulnerable position, and blindsided him with contact to the head. Stoll wasn't just skating around doing nothing, he was making a hockey play to get the puck out of the zone. Therefore the onus is on Torres not to hit Stoll in a vulnerable position in the head. He also doesn't just try to sake through Stoll with a hit, but he lowers himself and rises up into Stoll (which actually is why he makes contact with his head, if he had lowered his shoulder instead it probably would have been clean) and that is why the NHL took a look at it.

Torres has a very long history with the league, they're obviously sick of it. He can hit and by physical, nobody is saying not to. But blindsiding a vulnerable player with a hit to the head is dangerous and stupid. He had enough time to adjust and he chose to hit the way he did. Did he mean to hit the head? In this case, probably not.. But given his reputation, and the fact that he made the choice to make that hit the way he did, he's going to get the book thrown at him. That's the price you pay. Plenty of players live on the edge without crossing the line, Torres just isn't one of those players.

It's similar to Sean Avery. Plenty of teams have guys that are pests and used to agitate the other team... But after a while it gets to the point where the juice isn't worth the squeeze, and Avery was booted. Torres is getting close to that point now.

Stevens Legacy has always been tarnished. He is nothing but Dale Hunter with Cup rings
- gzatron

I never defended Stevens. I thought he was a very dirty player in a fortunate situation.

- glove_was_stuck

Please not Mad Mike... I'll do anything.... Hell... Publicly Praise Marchand! Just don't make me listen to Mike.

Torres has a very long history with the league, they're obviously sick of it. He can hit and by physical, nobody is saying not to. But blindsiding a vulnerable player with a hit to the head is dangerous and stupid. He had enough time to adjust and he chose to hit the way he did. Did he mean to hit the head? In this case, probably not.. But given his reputation, and the fact that he made the choice to make that hit the way he did, he's going to get the book thrown at him. That's the price you pay. Plenty of players live on the edge without crossing the line, Torres just isn't one of those players.

- bluecoconuts

http://www.youtube.com/wa...e=endscreen&v=pibiT5DCeME

I suggest you turn the sound off by the 25 second mark latest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=pibiT5DCeME

I suggest you turn the sound off by the 25 second mark latest.
- hit 'em

A kings fanboi will never see that play the same as anybody else. Much like other fanboi's that have to defend the douche du jour on their team. The ironing is delicious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=pibiT5DCeME

I suggest you turn the sound off by the 25 second mark latest.
- hit 'em

Neat, but I don't give a flying eff about what Brown did, I'm talking about Torres. I would have mentioned Brown if I was talking about him.

Secondly, Brown uses his forearm to get more power behind his hits, but when he misses them it looks like he's trying to throw an elbow. Or maybe he was just trying to throw an elbow. Either way, I'm not talking about Brown here. If Brown throws an elbow, I don't like it, the same as when he embellishes. So that argument is stupid. You might as well point to OJ as a reason why it's okay to murder.

Neat, but I don't give a flying eff about what Brown did, I'm talking about Torres. I would have mentioned Brown if I was talking about him.

Secondly, Brown uses his forearm to get more power behind his hits, but when he misses them it looks like he's trying to throw an elbow. Or maybe he was just trying to throw an elbow. Either way, I'm not talking about Brown here. If Brown throws an elbow, I don't like it, the same as when he embellishes. So that argument is stupid. You might as well point to OJ as a reason why it's okay to murder.
- bluecoconuts

Did you remember to turn the sound down or otherwise drown out the message while convincing yourself that Brown was just "trying" to throw an elbow?

And I know you weren't talking about Brown and all that, but is it safe to say that you don't see him as a player like Torres who doesn't know how to 'not cross the line'? Or to ask the question differently, do Brown's his flying effing elbows differ from Torres' elbows which remained welded to his torso on the Stoll hit? Just curios that's all.

A kings fanboi will never see that play the same as anybody else. Much like other fanboi's that have to defend the douche du jour on their team. The ironing is delicious.
- rugdnit

Did you literally and unironically use the word 'fanboi' as an insult twice?

The ironing is delicious.
- rugdnit

Does your face look like Jonah Hex ?

The ironing is delicious.
- rugdnit

You must work for a dry cleaner? If you do, then that'd be IRONY.

This shows it all.

http://bigmouthbarry.com/...res-hits-and-suspensions/

Hey homer.. where did he hold up? From every angle he drove right through his head and as Stoll tried to get upright he lifted the shoulder to make sure he got him in the head.

Sharks are better without that clown. They certainly look more dangerous tonight. Should be a great game.
- puckindnet

Correction: Drove right through his shoulder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=pibiT5DCeME

I suggest you turn the sound off by the 25 second mark latest.
- hit 'em

Thanks very much.

Did you remember to turn the sound down or otherwise drown out the message while convincing yourself that Brown was just "trying" to throw an elbow?

And I know you weren't talking about Brown and all that, but is it safe to say that you don't see him as a player like Torres who doesn't know how to 'not cross the line'? Or to ask the question differently, do Brown's his flying effing elbows differ from Torres' elbows which remained welded to his torso on the Stoll hit? Just curios that's all.
- hit 'em

Do I see Brown like Torres? No. Because Brown isn't Torres. Brown doesn't have a bunch of fines and suspensions. Brown plays very close to the edge, and he may cross it sometimes, but very rarely. Torres crosses the line on a consistent basis, and that's why the NHL is sick of his poop. Brown has far more talent and ability than Torres could ever dream of having, that's why Brown wins and Torres is a thug bouncing around from team to team.

You're trying to compare Brown and Torres as if that makes them the same and thus it's okay that Torres does what he does, and that's where you're wrong. Torres is dirty, the entire NHL knows it. That's why he got 25 games last year, and that's why he potentially will get a large number this time.

Brown and Torres are in no way comparable of their playing style.

Do I see Brown like Torres? No. Because Brown isn't Torres. Brown doesn't have a bunch of fines and suspensions. Brown plays very close to the edge, and he may cross it sometimes, but very rarely. Torres crosses the line on a consistent basis, and that's why the NHL is sick of his poop. Brown has far more talent and ability than Torres could ever dream of having, that's why Brown wins and Torres is a thug bouncing around from team to team.

You're trying to compare Brown and Torres as if that makes them the same and thus it's okay that Torres does what he does, and that's where you're wrong. Torres is dirty, the entire NHL knows it. That's why he got 25 games last year, and that's why he potentially will get a large number this time.

Brown and Torres are in no way comparable of their playing style.
- bluecoconuts

Torres is bigger than Brown.. and a bigger and better hitter.

If Brown could hit as powerfully as Torres he would have more fines.. and more suspensions.

Torres is bigger than Brown.. and a bigger and better hitter.

If Brown could hit as powerfully as Torres he would have more fines.. and more suspensions.
- kneughter

Torres is fatter than Brown, but they are the same height. Brown is a hard hitter and he hits a lot. He's consistently in the top three in hits in the NHL. That argument doesn't hold much weight.

Torres is fatter than Brown, but they are the same height. Brown is a hard hitter and he hits a lot. He's consistently in the top three in hits in the NHL. That argument doesn't hold much weight.
- bluecoconuts

Hits are subjective... so.. that argument doesn't hold much weight.

Just watch some of the hits Brown has made... borderline.. but haven't led to injury.. so he gets off scot-free.

Hits are subjective... so.. that argument doesn't hold much weight.

Just watch some of the hits Brown has made... borderline.. but haven't led to injury.. so he gets off scot-free.
- kneughter

Like what? His hit on Sedin?

Like what? His hit on Sedin?
- bluecoconuts

That one was borderline. Not borderline was his knee/flying elbow on Shwartz. Just gutless and doesn't make any sense how that's not a suspension.