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3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

May 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
So do I. But I am also not sure it was a distinct kicking motion. The icings irk me more than that call. But nothing irks me more than who was on the ice for the tying goal.
- hscesq


I am still convinced it was a kicking motion. It wouldn't be the first video review that got pooched.

I agree on the icings; for swift skaters like Karlsson and Gonchar, they sure had a tough time skating back to get those pucks.
yinzer_nation
Location: Acceptance
Joined: 02.28.2013

May 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
And yet, there was Michael Ryder on with Tomas Plekanec and Rene Bourque to protect a one-goal lead with less than a minute to play. No sign of Jeff Halpern, who very well might have been the best Canadien on the night. There was Raphael Diaz instead of Norris candidate P.K. Subban.

I told you he's being out coached 3 games ago.

- pete26


even with halpern and subban, habs have had recent bad playoff ot luck from that spot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmKP_nI2uXg
Charliebox
Joined: 09.08.2008

May 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
As a sens fan, I agree that the icing calls were two of the worst calls I've ever seen.

You could see Karlsson trying his hardest not to smile, ear to ear, after that one. CBC caught a close up him holding back the smile. He still let out a little grin. He knew exactly what he did there.

As for the goal, that was a goal, regardless of how the refs called it. If you watch it in slow motion, the 'kicking motion' happened after the puck left Zibby's foot. He 'directed' it in (ie he changed the direction of his skate - which is legal) and it looked like he went for a slight kick, but that only happened after the puck hit his skate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNSJE0Zncl4

Watch the angle at the 40 sec mark of the vid.
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

May 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
How can you possibly disagree with everything?
- hscesq

think he typoed.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
Pfff... We all agree that Habs dominated 3 of the 4 games. It's clear however that Anderson is better than Carey who really played only one good game (the 2nd).
- fidopro

no
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 8 @ 10:51 AM ET
this is correct. the bottom like though is that if your team is in the situation the habs were in yesterday, of staring down a barrel, they take a 2-0 lead in the third and they find the most creative ways to blow it then it was pretty much meant to be.
- dt99999

Perhaps. But the control one has, is who should be on the ice. Who MT selected makes no sense to me.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 8 @ 10:51 AM ET
How can you possibly disagree with everything?
- hscesq

almost everything
slashtrash
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 8 @ 10:51 AM ET
The choice of personnel in that third period is as mind-boggling as any coaching decision I have ever seen. Even if he is justified keeping #27 on the bench because he is a rookie (and I don't agree if that was his plan), how do you have Ryder on the ice and not Halpern, or even Dumont in the last minute? It is unbelievable to me how this man's coaching has gone downhill since the playoffs started. To me, this is the old Therrien.
- hscesq

Absolutely. Reminescent of the whole "let's not have Yannick Perrault take an important face-off so we can lose to the Canes" fiasco of his first tenure.

As for 27, rookie or not, there is just no way to justifie having him play more than 5 minutes less than DD, who's been MIA since about February.
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

May 8 @ 10:51 AM ET
Pfff... We all agree that Habs dominated 3 of the 4 games, so all this BS about outcoaching is making me laught. It's clear however that Anderson is better than Carey who really played only one good game (the 2nd).
- fidopro


Carey Price was not the problem last night.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 8 @ 10:51 AM ET
Perhaps. But the control one has, is who should be on the ice. Who MT selected makes no sense to me.
- hscesq

no, it doesn't.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
I still don't understand what you're talking about.
- EricEngels

Your take on the Zibanejad goal was well thought out and I agree with it.
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

May 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
Pfff... We all agree that Habs dominated 3 of the 4 games, so all this BS about outcoaching is making me laught. It's clear however that Anderson is better than Carey who really played only one good game (the 2nd).
- fidopro


I thought Price was great yesterday.
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

May 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
Your take on the Zibanejad goal was well thought out and I agree with it.
- AdamFrench


ok. Why do you want me to fight Travis Yost?
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
As a sens fan, I agree that the icing calls were two of the worst calls I've ever seen.

You could see Karlsson trying his hardest not to smile, ear to ear, after that one. CBC caught a close up him holding back the smile. He still let out a little grin. He knew exactly what he did there.

As for the goal, that was a goal, regardless of how the refs called it. If you watch it in slow motion, the 'kicking motion' happened after the puck left Zibby's foot. He 'directed' it in (ie he changed the direction of his skate - which is legal) and it looked like he went for a slight kick, but that only happened after the puck hit his skate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNSJE0Zncl4

Watch the angle at the 40 sec mark of the vid.

- Charliebox

I think it was probably a good goal. But EE is correct in saying that had it been called no goal on the ice, it probably would not have been reversed.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
I thought Price was great yesterday.
- EricEngels


He was. It just goes to show that this team has a ways to go though. just seems they can't get it all together at the same time.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
Carey Price was not the problem last night.
- 3M


Agreed, but he fought the puck all night and was shaky at time. Overall on 4 games, simply not good enought.
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

May 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
Carey Price was not the problem last night.
- 3M

nope Tinordi (frank)ed up 1st goal and no one covered the front of the net on tying goal.
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

May 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
I thought Price was great yesterday.
- EricEngels

hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
Agreed, but he fought the puck all night and was shaky at time. Overall on 4 games, simply not good enought.
- fidopro

I disagree. Last night was the first game in some time, where he looked to NOT be fighting the puck.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
Pfff... We all agree that Habs dominated 3 of the 4 games, so all this BS about outcoaching is making me laught. It's clear however that Anderson is better than Carey who really played only one good game (the 2nd).
- fidopro

The habs have been outplayed outmuscled, out hustled for long stretches throughout all the games.
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

May 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
As a sens fan, I agree that the icing calls were two of the worst calls I've ever seen.

You could see Karlsson trying his hardest not to smile, ear to ear, after that one. CBC caught a close up him holding back the smile. He still let out a little grin. He knew exactly what he did there.

As for the goal, that was a goal, regardless of how the refs called it. If you watch it in slow motion, the 'kicking motion' happened after the puck left Zibby's foot. He 'directed' it in (ie he changed the direction of his skate - which is legal) and it looked like he went for a slight kick, but that only happened after the puck hit his skate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNSJE0Zncl4

Watch the angle at the 40 sec mark of the vid.

- Charliebox


I think if it weren't debatable, there wouldn't be a debate. It's not clear cut enough to reverse a call, which is precisely what I'm arguing.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
ok. Why do you want me to fight Travis Yost?
- EricEngels

It seems like the thing to do these days with all the talk of class and the lack thereof.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
I thought Price was great yesterday.
- EricEngels


Especially in the first 10 minutes of the game...
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
It seems like the thing to do these days with all the talk of class and the lack thereof.
- AdamFrench

Damn Refs
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
I think if it weren't debatable, there wouldn't be a debate. It's not clear cut enough to reverse a call, which is precisely what I'm arguing.
- EricEngels



the rule is written in a ridiculous way.

chances are when everybody reads a rule and nobody agrees as to what it means then it's a silly rule.
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