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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 23 @ 10:28 PM ET
On second thought, since he's played 499 games here (thanks, GARTH) I REALLY hope they give him next game. It's be awesome to end at 500.
- LetsGoBuffalo75



If thats the case .
Let him play the last game this season. I will give him that. THanks miller you better lose it .
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 23 @ 10:28 PM ET
Crosby and Malkin are 2 of the top 5 players in the world. Vanek is not even in their class. Vanek goes on 15-20 game stretches without getting a point.
- ImThatGuy


He has never done that in his career. I think 7 or so is his worst, 15 is insane...that's literally going over a month without a point he might be inconsistent and often injured but that's closing in on stafford territory.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 23 @ 10:29 PM ET
I'm basing that on the possibility of one or both Miller/Vanek being gone and the fact that it is an 82 game season next year.
- Sabresfan-365


Trading Miller and Vanek makes you worse at first, to make you better. Are you willing to put up with that for 82 games next year?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 23 @ 10:31 PM ET
Trading Miller and Vanek makes you worse at first, to make you better. Are you willing to put up with that for 82 games next year?
- ImThatGuy


The Toronto Blue Jays are my favourite baseball team...that should pretty much answer your question on whether I'm for a rebuild or not
JustOneCupPlease
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cary, NC
Joined: 11.30.2006

Apr 23 @ 10:31 PM ET
Backstrom just made a sick save to bail out Minnesota....another bad result for Buffalo
JustOneCupPlease
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cary, NC
Joined: 11.30.2006

Apr 23 @ 10:32 PM ET
The Toronto Blue Jays are my favourite baseball team...that should pretty much answer your question on whether I'm for a rebuild or not
- Sabresfan-365



You need to call up Jim Negrych....batting .500 in buffalo - Cesar Izturis sucks
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 23 @ 10:32 PM ET
The Toronto Blue Jays are my favourite baseball team...that should pretty much answer your question on whether I'm for a rebuild or not
- Sabresfan-365


Touche
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 23 @ 10:34 PM ET
great we are franking up are chances now.

I'm done.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
You need to call up Jim Negrych....batting .500 in buffalo - Cesar Izturis sucks
- JustOneCupPlease


A lot of people in the organization are high on him...he might be called up soon
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Apr 23 @ 10:48 PM ET
If thats the case .
Let him play the last game this season. I will give him that. THanks miller you better lose it .

- cabin

I'm personally past losing at this point. I think Regier move up a few spots as is with his stockpiled picks and tradeable assets.
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Apr 23 @ 10:56 PM ET
Looks as if I've killed the thread...













sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 23 @ 11:08 PM ET
Looks as if I've killed the thread...














- LetsGoBuffalo75

good job
rsj2588
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.18.2012

Apr 23 @ 11:10 PM ET
Crosby and Malkin are 2 of the top 5 players in the world. Vanek is not even in their class. Vanek goes on 15-20 game stretches without getting a point.
- ImThatGuy



Even if he isn't in their class hes damn close. Vanek would be on any team's top line. The point I was making is that he is OUR best player, and trading him, based on what we have left would bury us for about 3 years. We don't have to do that, and I think the Sabres are leaning toward resigning him and going for a quick re-tool rather than a long-term rebuild.

Also there is no reason to not start Miller on Friday, he is the better goaltender. People are looking into the Rangers game too much, it was a clunker, but Enroth let in 4 goals too, and they weren't off skates or caused by a fluke mistake.
rsj2588
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.18.2012

Apr 23 @ 11:16 PM ET
Trading Miller and Vanek makes you worse at first, to make you better. Are you willing to put up with that for 82 games next year?
- ImThatGuy



We also have to ice an NHL-level team, we might be the worst team in the history of the NHL without them.


I'm fine with trading Miller in the offseason if we can find a goalie who can start 50-60 games next year. Enroth is really only good for 30 max in my opinion, probably more like 25. Hackett isn't ready to be a starter. Leggio isn't an NHL goalie. Knapp, Lieuwen and Makarov all need time as well.

Vanek will be here at least until the deadline.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Apr 23 @ 11:19 PM ET
He has never done that in his career. I think 7 or so is his worst, 15 is insane...that's literally going over a month without a point he might be inconsistent and often injured but that's closing in on stafford territory.
- Sabresfan-365


Correct, 7 games is his longest drought, happened twice in 2 different seasons.


He has 10 points in 2 games, 30 points in 19 games. 40 points in 21 games this year. Hes been scoreless in 16 games, thats 43% of the schedule. Thats about 32 games over a full season that he goes scoreless (33 in each of the previous 2 seasons, for 42% and 41% respectively).

Your best player should be close to getting points in about 70% of their games played each year.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 23 @ 11:21 PM ET
Even if he isn't in their class hes damn close. Vanek would be on any team's top line. The point I was making is that he is OUR best player, and trading him, based on what we have left would bury us for about 3 years. We don't have to do that, and I think the Sabres are leaning toward resigning him and going for a quick re-tool rather than a long-term rebuild.

Also there is no reason to not start Miller on Friday, he is the better goaltender. People are looking into the Rangers game too much, it was a clunker, but Enroth let in 4 goals too, and they weren't off skates or caused by a fluke mistake.

- rsj2588

Who knows if we can resign him, and for how much. If you can get a good return for a guy who is about to be on the back end of his career while your rebuilding I would test the market for him.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:26 PM ET
Omark and a 2nd for Myers.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 23 @ 11:27 PM ET
Omark and a 2nd for Myers.
- sanfordnson

RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:27 PM ET
Shouldn't be an excuse. He was our worst player every night. I said this earlier, I could care less how much of a leader a guy is when the pressure is off and the season is over with. He got hurt and disappeared during the meat of the season. It happens too much
- sbroads24


We talking Myers again?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 23 @ 11:29 PM ET
We talking Myers again?
- RynoBull

No Mrs. Vanek, talking about your son
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:32 PM ET
No Mrs. Vanek, talking about your son
- sbroads24



LOL. All I know is that we win more games with Vanek than with baby giraffe Myers.

All in good fun.

Vanek = PPG player. Not that many of those guys skating around. True Story.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:33 PM ET

- sbroads24

Fine we'll throw in Potter and a 3rd.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 23 @ 11:37 PM ET
LOL. All I know is that we win more games with Vanek than with baby giraffe Myers.

All in good fun.

Vanek = PPG player. Not that many of those guys skating around. True Story.

- RynoBull

PPG in a season were he plays less than 40 games. I know I hate on Vanek a lot, but he's frustrating to watch when he goes from all world player to Houdini every year. The guy has top 10 NHL talent but leaves a lot on the table
Pope of Pucks
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Miller's Dark Shadows, AZ
Joined: 08.04.2009

Apr 23 @ 11:40 PM ET
Ha! I read the blog..

Garth posted a Video of Pommer trying to avoid throwing a check, doesn't stop in time and Brown bracing for contact. Pommer runs right into Brown's elbow and knocks himself out.

Garth of course calls for Brown's suspension.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:42 PM ET
Trading Miller and Vanek makes you worse at first, to make you better. Are you willing to put up with that for 82 games next year?
- ImThatGuy


Ya, next year could def be pretty rough
But we'll end up w a really good pick and be able to add another really good young player
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