Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Bryzgalov, Hartnell, Wellwood
Author Message
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
He's got that star-studded defense in front of him.

But seriously, as much as I wanted them to roll with Bob and a cheap vet 2 years ago, it's still too early to anoint him as the next big thing.

40 games does not make you the next Hasek.

Goaltenders can ride hot streaks for full seasons and then regress to league average or worse. He needs to continue to improve his game and remain consistent in his performances.

But he's been lights out this year and is deserving of both Vezina and Hart trophy nominations.

- bradleyc4


All of this is why I'm not really worked up about Bob not being on the team anymore.

Good for him. He's having a fantastic year.

Let's see if he can sustain it.

If he does, then we can all line up with pitch forks and torches outside of Homer's door.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
On Bryz, I think the ability for a goalie to effectively play the puck and move it up ice is a huge weapon. Bryz does not have those skills.

With how poor the Flyers breakouts from their zone has been, it is magnified even more.

Watching Mason it becomes even more apparent.

I see this as a flaw in Bryz's game. It is not a deal breaker, but just another thing.
I would think the ability to play the puck is an aspect a top goalie should have.
Especially the way teams forecheck these days.

FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
I think you guys dwell too much on this early retirement thing. How many players retire early anymore without injury? Off the top of my head I can't think of any. Even pronger hasn't come out and retired officially.
- JoeRussomanno

Yeah but Bryz's contract runs into his mid 40's (I believe). And I have 0 faith that he won't retire early as he's a hard guy to read since the media has their panties in a twist about him and he's constantly defending himself.
It's a trust issue and most fans just don't trust Bryz.
I'm on the fence with him and I won't lie... I won't cry if he's back or if he goes, I can see advantages both directions.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 22 @ 12:32 PM ET
He's got that star-studded defense in front of him.

But seriously, as much as I wanted them to roll with Bob and a cheap vet 2 years ago, it's still too early to anoint him as the next big thing.

40 games does not make you the next Hasek.

Goaltenders can ride hot streaks for full seasons and then regress to league average or worse. He needs to continue to improve his game and remain consistent in his performances.

But he's been lights out this year and is deserving of both Vezina and Hart trophy nominations.

- bradleyc4


Jim Carey, Trevor Kidd, Blaine Lacher, Steve Penney... The list of one-hit wonders in net is not short.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 12:32 PM ET
On Bryz, I think the ability for a goalie to effectively play the puck and move it up ice is a huge weapon. Bryz does not have those skills.

With how poor the Flyers breakouts from their zone has been, it is magnified even more.

Watching Mason it becomes even more apparent.

I see this as a flaw in Bryz's game. It is not a deal breaker, but just another thing.
I would think the ability to play the puck is an aspect a top goalie should have.
Especially the way teams forecheck these days.

- Marc D

It's definitely an issue for bryzgalov to address going forward. His puckhanfling is not the best.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 22 @ 12:32 PM ET
We heard how great mike smith was last year when he replaced bryzgalov. then this year he regressed. I think the bob we are seeing is the real deal but let's see him do it for a couple seasons first.
- JoeRussomanno

Mike Smith was a product of the system - or so we heard last year while Bryz was maligned here.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 22 @ 12:33 PM ET
It's definitely an issue for bryzgalov to address going forward. His puckhanfling is not the best.
- JoeRussomanno

Wouldn't be an issue if he'd cover it and then we could win a D-zone draw.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 22 @ 12:33 PM ET
Pretty much my sentiment. Thanks for your service, Danny, but this is business. Also, thanks for not being Drury or Gomez.
- Flyskippy


The Flyers really picked the best one of those three.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 22 @ 12:34 PM ET
Jim Carey, Trevor Kidd, Blaine Lacher, Steve Penney... The list of one-hit wonders in net is not short.
- Flyskippy


Steve Mason
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 22 @ 12:34 PM ET
On Bryz, I think the ability for a goalie to effectively play the puck and move it up ice is a huge weapon. Bryz does not have those skills.

With how poor the Flyers breakouts from their zone has been, it is magnified even more.

Watching Mason it becomes even more apparent.

I see this as a flaw in Bryz's game. It is not a deal breaker, but just another thing.
I would think the ability to play the puck is an aspect a top goalie should have.
Especially the way teams forecheck these days.

- Marc D

I agree that Mason isn't the 2nd coming. But damn it's hot when he plays the puck.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 22 @ 12:34 PM ET
All of this is why I'm not really worked up about Bob not being on the team anymore.

Good for him. He's having a fantastic year.

Let's see if he can sustain it.

If he does, then we call line up with pitch forks and torches outside of Homer's door.

- johndewar

Wrong door. Lavi messed with Bob in the 2011 playoffs and then Mr. Snider demanded a fixing of the goalie position that did not really need to be fixed. They needed to fix the way they handled Bob.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 22 @ 12:35 PM ET
Steve Mason
- bradleyc4



"[Career] ain't over yet."
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 12:35 PM ET
Yeah but Bryz's contract runs into his mid 40's (I believe). And I have 0 faith that he won't retire early as he's a hard guy to read since the media has their panties in a twist about him and he's constantly defending himself.
It's a trust issue and most fans just don't trust Bryz.
I'm on the fence with him and I won't lie... I won't cry if he's back or if he goes, I can see advantages both directions.

- FlyersGrace

He will be 40 years old when the contract expires.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Apr 22 @ 12:37 PM ET
He will be 40 years old when the contract expires.
- JoeRussomanno

but he will only look 36
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 12:38 PM ET
Mike Smith was a product of the system - or so we heard last year while Bryz was maligned here.
- Flyskippy

That is such a silly line of thinking sometimes. As if the player made it all the way from midgets playing that one and only system and suddenly sucks cause he didn't play it anymore. Granted some players fit other systems better but that argument is seriously flawed.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 22 @ 12:38 PM ET
Wrong door. Lavi messed with Bob in the 2011 playoffs and then Mr. Snider demanded a fixing of the goalie position that did not really need to be fixed. They needed to fix the way they handled Bob.
- Flyskippy


Understood, but no one made Homer give Bryz that contract and I'm not even sure if they were bidding against anyone other than themselves.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 12:39 PM ET
Wouldn't be an issue if he'd cover it and then we could win a D-zone draw.
- Flyskippy

Even when they do win it they can't get it out of the zone sometimes
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Apr 22 @ 12:40 PM ET
Mike Smith was a product of the system - or so we heard last year while Bryz was maligned here.
- Flyskippy


That's what I remember as well. The Phoenix system and all-star dmen make goalies look better than they are.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 12:40 PM ET
but he will only look 36
- vejim

Tiger's blood
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Apr 22 @ 12:41 PM ET
Understood, but no one made Homer give Bryz that contract and I'm not even sure if they were bidding against anyone other than themselves.
- johndewar

Homer is much loved on this blob
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 22 @ 12:41 PM ET
Understood, but no one made Homer give Bryz that contract and I'm not even sure if they were bidding against anyone other than themselves.
- johndewar

Well... I'd think Mr. Snider did, since he (at the very least) would have to sign off on it.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 22 @ 12:42 PM ET
Even when they do win it they can't get it out of the zone sometimes
- JoeRussomanno

That, too! Like the 2008 playoffs vs. the Penguins when the Flyers were thinking the blue line was five feet closer to their goal line than it was.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 22 @ 12:42 PM ET
Wouldn't be an issue if he'd cover it and then we could win a D-zone draw.
- Flyskippy

they should consider this aspect of Bryz as he covers the puck a lot and gets the other team an offensive zone draw when they think about whether to re sign Mr Hall, with his face off ability.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 22 @ 12:43 PM ET
That, too! Like the 2008 playoffs vs. the Penguins when the Flyers were thinking the blue line was five feet closer to their goal line than it was.
- Flyskippy

We've had that problem all season long. How many goals against were because we didn't clear? Either the forwards were way too far forward or the D couldn't connect a pass to save their lives... It was always the blueline in the wrong position! I should have known!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 22 @ 12:43 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Bryzgalov, Hartnell, Wellwood
- bmeltzer


Great blog as always Bill!

on Bryz/buyout: As I've said before, Bryz is a good goalie, however he is not good enough to justify a 7 year cap hit of 5.7 million. I would buy him out and take my chances on finding a a vet to pair with Mason who will cost 4 million or less. And Bill, I completely agree, I could absolutely see the Flyers sign someone like Tim Thomas to a 1 year deal. He's not the guy I would want, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

on Wellwood: with you 100% on not tendering an offer. It's a shame, but it's a business and it would be the right decision to make.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15  Next