philco28
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I don't think he's any worse than anyone else in Rockford. I think he's improved, to an extent, but the true measure of that has been his lack of ice time do to injuries, which may have stunted his growth just a bit.
In all, if Smith is given some time in Chicago and this issue is still there, I think it's something Smith could work through and improve. - EKolb13
Thanks Bro...appreciate this and hope you're right
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EKB13
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No doubt some guys won't be back next year. Kruger and Frolik could easily handle 3rd line duties (or maybe 2nd for Kruger). If Bickell and Stalberg both go and Frolik and Kruger both move up then the 4th line is wide open. - DarthKane
Just for a lark, go on Capgeek and play with the Hawks roster for next season. See what you come up with. |
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Anyone know if the NHL has any rules about holding guys out of games just because? If I recall correctly the NBA fined the Spurs big time for holding out star players earlier in the year. I don't think the NHL would do anything given the shortened season and such but just curious.... - The_Councillor
The Spurs did it earlier in the season not with a couple of games left before the playoffs..that being said I thought Popivich was totally right in his call of sending guys home. They were playing 5 games in 7 days or something. Stern got his knickers all in a twist because it was against the Heat on TNT...by the way the Spurs almost won that game which would have made Stern look even more foolish.
And as stated there's the upper body/lower body mystery injury that Q can go to if wished. |
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DarthKane
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Just for a lark, go on Capgeek and play with the Hawks roster for next season. See what you come up with. - EKolb13
I know...and I'm not saying both Bickell and Stalberg will go, I'm just thinking out loud here. I expect Bickell to stay and I'd like to see Stalberg stay too. |
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John Jaeckel
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No doubt some guys won't be back next year. Kruger and Frolik could easily handle 3rd line duties (or maybe 2nd for Kruger). If Bickell and Stalberg both go and Frolik and Kruger both move up then the 4th line is wide open. - DarthKane
Marcus Kruger . . .
I know I have been pumping this guy's tired for four years now—except for saying Bowman was anointing him 2C a little early on in 2011 . . .
I am continually AMAZED at how good he is along the wall, at barely 180 pounds, and still basically a boy physically.
It's easy to take for granted that he is what he is now that he's been around for two years. But there is still some upside here.
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EKB13
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Thanks Bro...appreciate this and hope you're right
![:thumbsup:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/thumbsup.gif) - philco28
No problem. I hope I'm right too. |
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EKB13
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Marcus Kruger . . .
I know I have been pumping this guy's tired for four years now—except for saying Bowman was anointing him 2C a little early on in 2011 . . .
I am continually AMAZED at how good he is along the wall, at barely 180 pounds, and still basically a boy physically.
It's easy to take for granted that he is what he is now that he's been around for two years. But there is still some upside here. - John Jaeckel
JJ,
Being that Kruger is an RFA, what's your guess as to what Kruger's cap number will be when he's re-upped? |
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bogiedoc
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EKB13
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I know...and I'm not saying both Bickell and Stalberg will go, I'm just thinking out loud here. I expect Bickell to stay and I'd like to see Stalberg stay too. - DarthKane
I'd love it if Bowman could find a way to keep Handzus on the cheap.
As for Stalberg, I'm willing to bet money that he's gone by July 1st. |
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EKB13
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TyCamScore
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JJ,
Being that Kruger is an RFA, what's your guess as to what Kruger's cap number will be when he's re-upped? - EKolb13
would 3.6 mil for 3 years (1.2 per) be fair?
he doesn't rack up a ton of points which works in the Hawks favour come negotiating time. plus he's a 5th round pick. |
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teh_HAWKZ
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EKB13
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would 3.6 mil for 3 years (1.2 per) be fair?
he doesn't rack up a ton of points which works in the Hawks favour come negotiating time. plus he's a 5th round pick. - TyCamScore
I was willing to guess that it might be $1.5 million per for Kruger. I'm just curious as to what JJ thinks. |
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teh_HAWKZ
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Throw Carcillo or Bollig in with Toews and Hossa for a shift or two and see what happens there.
![;)](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif) - EKolb13
I am all for Carcillo being on that top line for a game like this |
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bogiedoc
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would 3.6 mil for 3 years (1.2 per) be fair?
he doesn't rack up a ton of points which works in the Hawks favour come negotiating time. plus he's a 5th round pick. - TyCamScore
sounds abt right..maybe as high as $4-4.5 for 3 yrs |
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powerenforcer
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Location: Wheeling, IL Joined: 09.24.2009
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Please don't think I am comparing Pirri to Saad, but what if next season Pirri can get an opportunity to work with Hossa (and to a lesser extent Toews since both are centers) to "learn" the game. Saad has really grown this season playing with Hossa and Toews. Could not Pirri benefit from this also? |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Rubber match, is this the first game with Kesler in the lineup for the Nucks against you guys? We'll need Schneider to be on his best tonight and play a sound defensive game (which hasn't happened lately) to win. |
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paulr
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I was willing to guess that it might be $1.5 million per for Kruger. I'm just curious as to what JJ thinks. - EKolb13
In that range.
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EKB13
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Please don't think I am comparing Pirri to Saad, but what if next season Pirri can get an opportunity to work with Hossa (and to a lesser extent Toews since both are centers) to "learn" the game. Saad has really grown this season playing with Hossa and Toews. Could not Pirri benefit from this also? - powerenforcer
Can Pirri be taught to be mentally and physically tough? |
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MartiniMan
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No sure where you pulled these numbers, but they're wrong.
Tied for 16th in Wins, 21 in Games played, 9th in GAA, tied for 5th in S%. Tied for 1st in shutouts, which is a bigger consideration than games played when judging a goalie, typically. - micah555
Sorry, if you are going to use those metrics than Bobrovsky is ahead of Schneider by just about any measure. Higher win %, higher save %, lower GAA, and one less shutout, with a team in front of him not as good as Vancouver and that was an absolute crap team for half the season.
Niemi, Bobrovsky, Anderson, and a few others are ahead of Schneider, no matter how much you guys might try to pump his tires. And Anderson would have been the runaway winner had he not sprained his ankle. |
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EKB13
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In that range. - John Jaeckel
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sounds abt right..maybe as high as $4-4.5 for 3 yrs - bogiedoc
Maybe closer to $4 mil if over 4 yrs. Question is term length. That, I hear is the sticking point on Bickell's deal.
Thing is, Kruger's going to get better, Bickell probably isn't. |
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philco28
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DarthKane
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Maybe closer to $4 mil if over 4 yrs. Question is term length. That, I hear is the sticking point on Bickell's deal.
Thing is, Kruger's going to get better, Bickell probably isn't. - John Jaeckel
If Stan can get Kruger for $4 million / 4 years that would be a home run for Bowman. I don't expect Bickell to get much better, he's a depth forward that plays his best hockey on the 3rd line. Another 2 - 3 would be good for him. |
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