look boyes is ok..he's not bad.. but if he walks july first i will be able to sleep at night...at no point will i ever say damn i miss Brad Boyes...
- NYI78

Until next year when we get none of the UFA's/Trades you mentioned.

Strome is not ready unless we plan on ruining more talent. Nino has 4 points in 55 NHL games. He needs to prove himself before being put on the first line as a permanent replacement.

Bailey is top 6 forward on the Islanders and maybe 5 other teams. He's not a legit top 6 player and I don't think he will ever be.

It's also funny how Dupius is a great player but it has nothing to do with playing with Sid while Boyes sucks and all of his production is because he's playing with JT. He is also 4 years older than Boyes, will require more money, hasn't ever played here, and is much less of a player throughout his career than Boyes. And I actually really like Dupius but the facts are the facts.

Until next year when we get none of the UFA's/Trades you mentioned.

Strome is not ready unless we plan on ruining more talent. Nino has 4 points in 55 NHL games. He needs to prove himself before being put on the first line as a permanent replacement.

Bailey is top 6 forward on the Islanders and maybe 5 other teams. He's not a legit top 6 player and I don't think he will ever be.
- kencan98

when will Nino be ready then? what does he have to do to get a shot at top six minutes?

when will Nino be ready then? what does he have to do to get a shot at top six minutes?
- NYI78

Give him a shot in October of 2013. A SHOT. There's a big difference between "a shot" with a backup plan and making him the first line winger.

A SHOT, with Boyes on the third line is fine. "A Shot" with no other option besides other AHLers is stupidity.

I wasn't knocking Snow for anything. I was simply addressing UIF's argument that he feels Snow will make a "serious attempt" at bringing someone in for the first line.

I don't believe he will simply because he never has. It's either a waiver wire pickup that may work or may not or a low budget UFA signing.

And after 2 weeks, when I originally brought up the Boyes issue, still no one can answer my question.

If not Boyes, WHO?
- kencan98

i get that and i agree, hes never made a "serious attempt" but i dont think its because he doesnt know how to...i think its bc he wasnt ready to pull the trigger on any deal and they werent in the position for him to swing a deal like that. i believe he will be much more active now.

as for the second bold...EVERYONE has answered your question, you just havent been happy with it. 1) there are top of the line prospects ready for that spot 2) considering boyes is a fill-in type player, he is replaceable with any other boyes-type player.... but im reaching a little higher than boyes-type kinda player.

Give him a shot in October of 2013. A SHOT. There's a big difference between "a shot" with a backup plan and making him the first line winger.

A SHOT, with Boyes on the third line is fine. "A Shot" with no other option besides other AHLers is stupidity.
- kencan98

honestly we don't know who is available july first yet..and we don't know who is going to be bought out with the cap going down. i could live with boyes on a one year deal..but if he walks i'm not going to flip out

i get that and i agree, hes never made a "serious attempt" but i dont think its because he doesnt know how to...i think its bc he wasnt ready to pull the trigger on any deal and they werent in the position for him to swing a deal like that. i believe he will be much more active now.

as for the second bold...EVERYONE has answered your question, you just havent been happy with it. 1) there are top of the line prospects ready for that spot 2) considering boyes is a fill-in type player, he is replaceable with any other boyes-type player.... but im reaching a little higher than boyes-type kinda player.
- LetsGoIsles

How do you (or any of us) know that there are "top of the line" PROSPECTS ready for that spot? How many "top of the line prospects" never materialized at the NHL level? How many players were great in the AHL but sucked at the NHL level? With that type of thinking, our leading goal scorer should be Jeff Tambelinni.

Who is the other "Boyes Type" player? We replaced PA with another "PA type player" and got lucky that it somewhat worked. How many times are we going to get lucky like that?

The one thing that we all know for a fact is that we don't really know anything. The only thing we are 100% sure of is that the first line worked this year. Changing it without a viable backup plan is not a smart move.

honestly we don't know who is available july first yet..and we don't know who is going to be bought out with the cap going down. i could live with boyes on a one year deal..but if he walks i'm not going to flip out
- NYI78

Again, we don't know.

So when you don't know, you keep what's currently in place until you do know.

And if he walks I'm not going to flip out either. I'm an Isles fan and if I'm not used to stupid decisions by now then I'll never be. I'm expecting him to walk and I'm expecting the same "we tried" presser and the announcement of another "Jon Sim" sometime in early August.

And what if no one stands out?

"Very certain" isn't good enough unless you have a back up plan if your "very certain" turns into "we tried and failed".
- kencan98

and what if boyes gets hit by a car??

you can play the what-if game forever, but eventually you gotta take a shot. boyes is NOT the answer and is EASILY replaceable.

and to answer your question, id LEGIT put ANYONE (not joensuu) on the top line over boyes at this point...bailey, ko, mcd, graber, martin

PA Parenteau:

44 GP 17G 24A 41P
- Mr.Black

Totally agree, how dumb was it to let PA go...

Totally agree, how dumb was it to let PA go...
- bhockey47

Pretty F'in dumb

XxNYIxX

How do you (or any of us) know that there are "top of the line" PROSPECTS ready for that spot? How many "top of the line prospects" never materialized at the NHL level? How many players were great in the AHL but sucked at the NHL level? With that type of thinking, our leading goal scorer should be Jeff Tambelinni.

Who is the other "Boyes Type" player? We replaced PA with another "PA type player" and got lucky that it somewhat worked. How many times are we going to get lucky like that?

The one thing that we all know for a fact is that we don't really know anything. The only thing we are 100% sure of is that the first line worked this year. Changing it without a viable backup plan is not a smart move.
- kencan98

i legit found myself cringing at the end of the game on saturday when tavares line was on the ice...they are a step behind the other 3 lines; they are TERRIBLE defensively. i found myself saying i dont want them on the ice when they need to play defense. if you are legit 100% sure that first line has worked, i got a bridge to sell you.

and what if boyes gets hit by a car??

you can play the what-if game forever, but eventually you gotta take a shot. boyes is NOT the answer and is EASILY replaceable.

and to answer your question, id LEGIT put ANYONE (not joensuu) on the top line over boyes at this point...bailey, ko, mcd, graber, martin
- LetsGoIsles

Id actually love to see "THIS" KO play on JT's line.. but id hate breaking up his line just to see.

XxNYIxX

Back with Boyes again Gee Louise

He is ok not the best, there are plenty of other options out there. Hell you can put me on that line and I would get the same numbers playing with JT.

Id actually love to see "THIS" KO play on JT's line.. but id hate breaking up his line just to see.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

KO failed on his line twice. No need to screw with JT and Moulson

How do you (or any of us) know that there are "top of the line" PROSPECTS ready for that spot? How many "top of the line prospects" never materialized at the NHL level? How many players were great in the AHL but sucked at the NHL level? With that type of thinking, our leading goal scorer should be Jeff Tambelinni.

Who is the other "Boyes Type" player? We replaced PA with another "PA type player" and got lucky that it somewhat worked. How many times are we going to get lucky like that?

The one thing that we all know for a fact is that we don't really know anything. The only thing we are 100% sure of is that the first line worked this year. Changing it without a viable backup plan is not a smart move.
- kencan98

here's my question..how do you know they are not?? also your boy PA and Matt Mouslon were unknown "ahl try outs" when they came here..and they earned their spots. so don't let the facts get in the way of a good arguement. also the first line has been average the past month Tavares is playing good inspite of his linemates not because of them

Totally agree, how dumb was it to let PA go...
- bhockey47

question for all the PA lovers:

what would you rather?

be where we are right now with todays team and position in the standings (IE boyes) OR start the season all over again with pap...which would you take?

Id actually love to see "THIS" KO play on JT's line.. but id hate breaking up his line just to see.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

agreed...my point was that there are 5-6 other players talent-wise that id rather see on the top line than boyes.

question for all the PA lovers:

what would you rather?

be where we are right now with todays team and position in the standings (IE boyes) OR start the season all over again with pap...which would you take?
- LetsGoIsles

Be where we are right now!! Who knows we might not be where we are if PA was with the team

question for all the PA lovers:

what would you rather?

be where we are right now with todays team and position in the standings (IE boyes) OR start the season all over again with pap...which would you take?
- LetsGoIsles

I'm not a PA lover but I know the guy played great with JT and MM. Taking Boyes out and adding PA would do nothing to hurt this team regarding the playoffs, if anything we would have more points right now.

I'm not a PA lover but I know the guy played great with JT and MM. Taking Boyes out and adding PA would do nothing to hurt this team regarding the playoffs, if anything we would have more points right now.
- Nolanders

so youre saying youd throw away what we currently have, restart the season with pap instead of boyes and be confident wed be in a better position by the end of that "season" than where we are today???

question for all the PA lovers:

what would you rather?

be where we are right now with todays team and position in the standings (IE boyes) OR start the season all over again with pap...which would you take?
- LetsGoIsles

Without question I want this team fighting for a playoff spot, But that not to say we wouldn't be with PAP.

BTW not a PAP lover.. We didnt trade him at the deadline so he should have been signed.. he wasn't signed and let walk, there will continue to be comparisons .. especially since it was said by many here that he was ONLY good because he was on JT's wing & would never "come close" to that type of production anywhere else. If we had Crosby on JT's wing and he was putting up 200pts id still be pointing out that PAP is putting up the numbers.


XxNYIxX

Nino Wil be top line RW next year. Snow did the best thing you can do to Nino. Not all players have JT mentality. Nino put up numbers, got upset we wouldnt bring him up. Now he will have Chip on his shoulder. He should never want to go down to minors ever again.

I do think Boyes will resign. He definately earned a raise over his 1MM he made this year. I say he gets a 3 year 9MM deal. He still has plenty of hockey left.

And i think he does want to stay on LI.

Here is only PA Parenteau you will need to know. PA Parenteau will be golfing next week. Ask him if he would trade one less year off his contract in lanche to be playign with isles in Playoffs right now. Imagine what would be going through his mind if isles make a cinderella run and win it all.

Hockey not just about stats, its about playing a complete game and good chemistry. PA stats mean nothing when his team is Bottom of Western Conference.

Nino Wil be top line RW next year. Snow did the best thing you can do to Nino. Not all players have JT mentality. Nino put up numbers, got upset we wouldnt bring him up. Now he will have Chip on his shoulder. He should never want to go down to minors ever again.

I do think Boyes will resign. He definately earned a raise over his 1MM he made this year. I say he gets a 3 year 9MM deal. He still has plenty of hockey left.

And i think he does want to stay on LI.

Here is only PA Parenteau you will need to know. PA Parenteau will be golfing next week. Ask him if he would trade one less year off his contract in lanche to be playign with isles in Playoffs right now. Imagine what would be going through his mind if isles make a cinderella run and win it all.

Hockey not just about stats, its about playing a complete game and good chemistry. PA stats mean nothing when his team is Bottom of Western Conference.
- Spartiarti

3 years 9 million??
lets take it one year at a time offer him 1.5/2

plus.. if Nino will be the top line wing next year why would we sign Boyes to 3 years???
XxNYIxX

Hindsight is so friendly to PA...
When the guy was here, plenty of people female doged about him and his turnovers etc. There's no question he's miles ahead of Boyes, but he's a streaky player who has fed off playing top line minutes with both Tavares and now Duchene. Don't get me wrong, the guy is a good playmaker, patient with the puck, allows plays to develop and also is willing to get his nose a little dirty.

Still, there's no way I would have signed him for $16 million over 4 years. He's put up excellent numbers so far this year, but I'll wait to see what develops for him next year and beyond before saying he was worth the money.

As for calling Boyes our new PA. Get real. They are two totally different players, one a playmaker, another a sniper. Neither are excellent at what they do but both are sercviceable. That said, Boyes isn't even in PA's zip code when it comes to productivity. Our biggest flaw was not getting a return for PA and then not having a legitimate backup plan for his departure. Boyes is a failure and there are plenty of other one-dimensional offensive players waiting for their $1 million paydays that could probably put up as much or more than Brad.

Saying there's no better option (or he's the 'only option') than Boyes is beyond laughable.

Nino Wil be top line RW next year. Snow did the best thing you can do to Nino. Not all players have JT mentality. Nino put up numbers, got upset we wouldnt bring him up. Now he will have Chip on his shoulder. He should never want to go down to minors ever again.

I do think Boyes will resign. He definately earned a raise over his 1MM he made this year. I say he gets a 3 year 9MM deal. He still has plenty of hockey left.

And i think he does want to stay on LI.

Here is only PA Parenteau you will need to know. PA Parenteau will be golfing next week. Ask him if he would trade one less year off his contract in lanche to be playign with isles in Playoffs right now. Imagine what would be going through his mind if isles make a cinderella run and win it all.

Hockey not just about stats, its about playing a complete game and good chemistry. PA stats mean nothing when his team is Bottom of Western Conference.
- Spartiarti

wait....you want the isles to sign him to that?!?