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GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 7 @ 3:43 PM ET
He is good.. I am shocked he hasn't been traded.. I don't think they stand a chance vs the Pens. Boston can beat them though if Rask plays well.
- Hextall271


He plays with such an edge for a skilled guy, hes got a quick release and has good vision. Him and Lupul tear it up when he is healthy. I'd think they'd stand a chance with a true #1 goalie and a healthy Lupul which was my original comment.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 7 @ 3:44 PM ET
With regard to Bryz:

You are insane if you think Mason should be the starter next year. No one, including Homer (as he has said) thinks the guy is anointed the starter for next year right NOW. He has to earn it and earn it while battling Bryz for the job. Bryz should not, and I believe will not, be bought out next year. If you buy him out then Mason is your starter. Insane. After next year? Yes, I actually hope so. His contract is a noose around this organizations neck.

Next year they buy out Briere to get under the cap. Bryz the following with, fingers crossed, Mason relieving him (or a UFA pickup/trade- not ideal but potentially necessary).

Mason will get 2M on a 1 year contract to battle Bryz next year as the starter. I hope one of them prevails as the obvious choice. Due to his terrible contract I hope it is Mason.

- coffee junkie


The unfair criticism of Bryz is one thing.. opinion I guess..

calling to buy him out without a viable plan to replace him is flat out insane..People throw Bernier out there for fun withot considering what LA would want for him. So we trade picks or a young forward and weaken the team to get him? Two weeks in, he'd let in a bad goal and we'd be calling for his head,
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 7 @ 3:45 PM ET
With regard to Bryz:

You are insane if you think Mason should be the starter next year. No one, including Homer (as he has said) thinks the guy is anointed the starter for next year right NOW. He has to earn it and earn it while battling Bryz for the job. Bryz should not, and I believe will not, be bought out next year. If you buy him out then Mason is your starter. Insane. After next year? Yes, I actually hope so. His contract is a noose around this organizations neck.

Next year they buy out Briere to get under the cap. Bryz the following with, fingers crossed, Mason relieving him (or a UFA pickup/trade- not ideal but potentially necessary).

Mason will get 2M on a 1 year contract to battle Bryz next year as the starter. I hope one of them prevails as the obvious choice. Due to his terrible contract I hope it is Mason.

- coffee junkie


Id look to see if you can get Mason on a cheap 2 year deal, that way if you do buy out Bryz in 2014, you have Mason signed cheaper for another year regardless.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 7 @ 3:45 PM ET
With regard to Bryz:

You are insane if you think Mason should be the starter next year. No one, including Homer (as he has said) thinks the guy is anointed the starter for next year right NOW. He has to earn it and earn it while battling Bryz for the job. Bryz should not, and I believe will not, be bought out next year. If you buy him out then Mason is your starter. Insane. After next year? Yes, I actually hope so. His contract is a noose around this organizations neck.

Next year they buy out Briere to get under the cap. Bryz the following with, fingers crossed, Mason relieving him (or a UFA pickup/trade- not ideal but potentially necessary).

Mason will get 2M on a 1 year contract to battle Bryz next year as the starter. I hope one of them prevails as the obvious choice. Due to his terrible contract I hope it is Mason.

- coffee junkie


Get Mason in net. Lets see how he does. Bryz needs a break anyways.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 7 @ 3:49 PM ET
He plays with such an edge for a skilled guy, hes got a quick release and has good vision. Him and Lupul tear it up when he is healthy. I'd think they'd stand a chance with a true #1 goalie and a healthy Lupul which was my original comment.
- GirouxForTheShow


I think Vancouver is asking too much for Luongo.. Had they gotten him, they'd be better off.. I am sure you heard the rumours, but apparenlty, the Leafs had a deal for him, but TO wanted van to eat some of the money.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 3:52 PM ET
Final

Kitchener - 0
London - 2

Stolarz with 34 saves

London leads the series 2 - 0
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 7 @ 3:56 PM ET
Final

Kitchener - 0
London - 2

Stolarz with 34 saves

London leads the series 2 - 0

- ob18


Horrible.. why didn't he make 45 saves? Can we buy him out?
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Apr 7 @ 3:59 PM ET
Horrible.. why didn't he make 45 saves? Can we buy him out?
- Hextall271

Or trade him for Briere? I hear he's available and just what this team needs.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 3:59 PM ET
Horrible.. why didn't he make 45 saves? Can we buy him out?
- Hextall271


From what I saw he was damn good, pretty nice to see him be a 3rd stringer in college to taking over the starting gig for of all teams the defending OHL champs and not skip a beat.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 7 @ 4:01 PM ET
From what I saw he was damn good, pretty nice to see him be a 3rd stringer in college to taking over the starting gig for of all teams the defending OHL champs and not skip a beat.
- ob18


I hope he continues to develop. Keep stockpiling goaltening prospects..
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Apr 7 @ 4:01 PM ET
From what I saw he was damn good, pretty nice to see him be a 3rd stringer in college to taking over the starting gig for of all teams the defending OHL champs and not skip a beat.
- ob18


Definitely a good move for him.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 7 @ 4:05 PM ET
I think Vancouver is asking too much for Luongo.. Had they gotten him, they'd be better off.. I am sure you heard the rumours, but apparenlty, the Leafs had a deal for him, but TO wanted van to eat some of the money.
- Hextall271


Im sure Gillis didn't take that too well but I dont blame TO for asking at all. Reimer isn't a bad goalie, but he seems to fight the puck a lot and when you fight the puck you have a tendency to give up juicy rebounds.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 4:06 PM ET
Definitely a good move for him.
- wilsonecho91


Still asking around to see if Laughton will or has been suspended. The OHL has said nothing to this point and they play tonight.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 7 @ 4:10 PM ET
Im sure Gillis didn't take that too well but I dont blame TO for asking at all. Reimer isn't a bad goalie, but he seems to fight the puck a lot and when you fight the puck you have a tendency to give up juicy rebounds.
- GirouxForTheShow


Here's the thing.. with that contract, you can't expect to get very much.. maybe some prospects, but you are basically doing them a favour to take that contract. You are either going to have to take what they give you or buy him out and get nothing.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 7 @ 4:13 PM ET
a real fresh start would involve a new GM and no fulminations from Ed.
- isaiah520


And there's my new word for the day. Thank you.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 7 @ 4:21 PM ET
Here's the thing.. with that contract, you can't expect to get very much.. maybe some prospects, but you are basically doing them a favour to take that contract. You are either going to have to take what they give you or buy him out and get nothing.
- Hextall271


I was actually very surprised that he wasn't dealt. Schneider is probably the hottest goalie in the league in the last month, 8 games started 6 wins 10 goals against with 3 shutouts. I thought after 3 years of him being on the trade block Gillis would understand that he wasn't gonna get full value with that contract.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 7 @ 4:23 PM ET
Here's the thing.. with that contract, you can't expect to get very much.. maybe some prospects, but you are basically doing them a favour to take that contract. You are either going to have to take what they give you or buy him out and get nothing.
- Hextall271


Isnt the Luongo buy out like 25 million owed to him? If Im vancouver I came that close to trading him...just hang on to him a team like the Flyers will come around and bail you out.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 4:27 PM ET
Oshawa Generals colour commentator says Scott Laughton is suspended, but hasn't heard for how long.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 7 @ 4:28 PM ET
I hope the Flyers shop Coburn hard at the draft and see if they can pickup a late first rounder. I see Huskins making better decisions in the same situations. How can we justify paying Mez 4 mil, Coburn 4.5 mil. When they have clearly struggled when asked to anchor the 2nd pairing. How is this justified?
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Apr 7 @ 4:30 PM ET
Y'know before everyone gets all misty eyed over one period of Steve Mason, maybe we should recognize there was a reason he was chased out of Star studded Columbus. For Micheal Leighton and a distant 3rd rounder(2015). The guy has a history of having trouble stringing any kind of decent play together and has fallen apart at the drop of a hat. His past play would make you yearn for Brzy's 'Consistancy'. So, this bed has been made for the time being. I don't see any reasonable upgrade for Bryz in the near future... so...

In other news, Question for Bill. What do you think of Philly's signing of Mark Alt? 6'3, Good Mobility, seems like a smaller version of Coburn, possilbly with some more offensive upside? Might end up being the real jewel from the reacquiring of Boosh?
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Apr 7 @ 4:34 PM ET
I'm all for giving the ball to Mason the rest of this season, see what we have going into next season. It will let Reese get a feel for what he needs to work with Mason on. If people want to buyout Bryz this summer, you'd better hope we get a decent 1B guy to split with Mason. Be careful for what you wish for, Mason has a long hill to climb before regaining his Calder form.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 7 @ 4:35 PM ET
Isnt the Luongo buy out like 25 million owed to him? If Im vancouver I came that close to trading him...just hang on to him a team like the Flyers will come around and bail you out.
- Just5


It would be insanely high you are right.. I suspect he will get traded, but I don't think Gillis will get much.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 7 @ 4:37 PM ET
Y'know before everyone gets all misty eyed over one period of Steve Mason, maybe we should recognize there was a reason he was chased out of Star studded Columbus. For Micheal Leighton and a distant 3rd rounder(2015). The guy has a history of having trouble stringing any kind of decent play together and has fallen apart at the drop of a hat. His past play would make you yearn for Brzy's 'Consistancy'. So, this bed has been made for the time being.

In other news, Question for Bill. What do you think of Philly's signing of Mark Alt? 6'3, Good Mobility, seems like a smaller version of Coburn, possilbly with some more offensive upside? Might end up being the real jewel from the reacquiring of Boosh?

- flyler


I get more misty eyed over Steve Mason because he won the Calder Cup playing 61 games with a 2.29 GAA .920 SV and 10 shutouts on a god-awful Columbus team. He was top 3 reason why they made the playoffs that year. This is at 20 years old.

EDIT: He's got a lot to prove obviously to even consider that season as not an aberration. However, his Calder Cup, MVP of the world juniors talent isn't a fallacy.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 7 @ 4:40 PM ET
I'm all for giving the ball to Mason the rest of this season, see what we have going into next season. It will let Reese get a feel for what he needs to work with Mason on. If people want to buyout Bryz this summer, you'd better hope we get a decent 1B guy to split with Mason. Be careful for what you wish for, Mason has a long hill to climb before regaining his Calder form.
- Rocktane

I'm still not sure why people keep throwing Mike Smith out there. He is putting up worse numbers in PHX than Bryz did. How is that supposed to translate to anything better here?

I do agree tho if Bryz gets bought out (which I hope he doesn't) they need to get Emery or maybe even Thomas. Not sure how easy that is going to be.

Trading any more assets for a goalie is an absolute ludicrous approach at this point in my opinion.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 7 @ 4:43 PM ET
I hope the Flyers shop Coburn hard at the draft and see if they can pickup a late first rounder. I see Huskins making better decisions in the same situations. How can we justify paying Mez 4 mil, Coburn 4.5 mil. When they have clearly struggled when asked to anchor the 2nd pairing. How is this justified?
- Just5


I've been saying it for awhile now. Coburn, Mez, Briere, Grossmann, and picks can get us TWO great defenseman. As much as I like Briere and Grossmann, I think this is best for the Flyers as a team.
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