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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 8:04 PM ET
Bishop has stopped 82 of the first 85 shots he has seen with TB. Yzerman saw he made a mistake with Lindback, and went out and found a solution to the problem.
- PLindbergh31


So 82 saves on 85 shots equals a solution?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 8:05 PM ET
So 85 shots equals a solution?
- MJL


Yep. Mason hasn't allowed a goal yet at all, so obviously he's even better than Bishop
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 7 @ 8:06 PM ET
Wow. The Florida Panthers are now ahead of the Flyers in team save %. Absolutely pathetic.
- PLindbergh31




PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:07 PM ET

- MBFlyerfan


It's the lockdown defense Florida employs. Has to be.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 8:08 PM ET
Yep. Mason hasn't allowed a goal yet at all, so obviously he's even better than Bishop
- Jsaquella


Well kudos to Paul Holmgren then. He saw he made a mistake with Bryzgalov. And he found a solution!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 7 @ 8:09 PM ET
It's the lockdown defense Florida employs. Has to be.
- PLindbergh31


With the NHL package I watch a lot of hockey. There is no team in the NHL that gives up as many glorious chances as the Flyers do on a game by game basis. It aint even close.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:09 PM ET
Well kudos to Paul Holmgren then. He saw he made a mistake with Bryzgalov. And he found a solution!

- MJL


Bryzgalov isn't a mistake. 40th in the NHL in save %, he's a rock star.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 8:11 PM ET
Bryzgalov isn't a mistake. 40th in the NHL in save %, he's a rock star.
- PLindbergh31



Well if Bryzgalov isn't a mistake. What was your point in bringing up Yzerman trading for Bishop?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:11 PM ET
With the NHL package I watch a lot of hockey. There is no team in the NHL that gives up as many glorious chances as the Flyers do on a game by game basis. It aint even close.
- MBFlyerfan


Until I see a metric or statistic that verifies this I don't believe it.
monty burns
Location: wake forest, NC
Joined: 10.18.2005

Apr 7 @ 8:11 PM ET
ovenchicken scores again, 1-1 caps and lightning
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 7 @ 8:12 PM ET
Bishop has stopped 82 of the first 85 shots he has seen with TB. Yzerman saw he made a mistake with Lindback, and went out and found a solution to the problem.
- PLindbergh31


I like Bishop alot.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 7 @ 8:13 PM ET
Until I see a metric or statistic that verifies this I don't believe it.
- PLindbergh31


I dont really give a poop.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:13 PM ET
I like Bishop alot.
- stveshdy


Good trade for both teams. Conacher is a nice player. Hard to believe a team can trade their third goalie for that kind of a return.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 7 @ 8:15 PM ET
With the NHL package I watch a lot of hockey. There is no team in the NHL that gives up as many glorious chances as the Flyers do on a game by game basis. It aint even close.
- MBFlyerfan

Been preaching this for a while.

Nobody seems to listen.

Bernie's sv % would be right around .905 on this team. It seems like 2/3rds of the GA this team has allowed have been a) point blank shots from a prime scoring area of the ice, b) odd man situations down low or c) scrambles in front where the other team's WIDE OPEN MAN cleans up the garbage.

It's unreal.

Until they tighten it the (frank) up, I don't think it matters who their goalie is.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 8:16 PM ET
Been preaching this for a while.

Nobody seems to listen.

Bernie's sv % would be right around .905 on this team. It seems like 2/3rds of the GA this team has allowed have been a) point blank shots from a prime scoring area of the ice, b) odd man situations down low or c) scrambles in front where the other team's WIDE OPEN MAN cleans up the garbage.

It's unreal.

Until they tighten it the (frank) up, I don't think it matters who their goalie is.

- Giroux_Is_God


It really wouldn't make a ton of difference, unless they had a guy like Cujo who actually was at his best when called upon to face high quality chances.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 7 @ 8:16 PM ET
Good trade for both teams. Conacher is a nice player. Hard to believe a team can trade their third goalie for that kind of a return.
- PLindbergh31


Bishop is a starter in this league. He's far from your typical third goalie.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:16 PM ET
Been preaching this for a while.

Nobody seems to listen.

Bernie's sv % would be right around .905 on this team. It seems like 2/3rds of the GA this team has allowed have been a) point blank shots from a prime scoring area of the ice, b) odd man situations down low or c) scrambles in front where the other team's WIDE OPEN MAN cleans up the garbage.

It's unreal.

Until they tighten it the (frank) up, I don't think it matters who their goalie is.

- Giroux_Is_God


So if the Flyers are going to have this type of reckless style, why would they go out and spend a fortune on a goaltender?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 8:17 PM ET
Good trade for both teams. Conacher is a nice player. Hard to believe a team can trade their third goalie for that kind of a return.
- PLindbergh31


So what makes Yzerman so great then? He got a team's 3rd Goalie and had to give up a good young player to get him. That's on top of what he gave up previously to get Lindback.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:17 PM ET
Bishop is a starter in this league. He's far from your typical third goalie.
- stveshdy


Definitely not. Ottawa had depth at the position, and used it to their advantage.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 8:17 PM ET
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 7 @ 8:18 PM ET
So if the Flyers are going to have this type of reckless style, why would they go out and spend a fortune on a goaltender?
- PLindbergh31

Easy.

As a solution to the problem.

Why else would they?

They're biggest hole at the time was goaltending. So Homer went out and logically tried to plug it with the best available option.

Now the biggest problem on this team is their lack of team D. Not the goalie. Now, they need to tighten the (frank) up.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 8:19 PM ET
So if the Flyers are going to have this type of reckless style, why would they go out and spend a fortune on a goaltender?
- PLindbergh31


They shouldn't. But then I doubt the way this team plays defensively, was the vision that Holmgren had for his team. That falls on the shoulders of the Coach. Who overall, has done a pretty crappy job this year. So two choices. Fix the defensive issue, or why stay with the contract that could hurt down the road. If keeping the contract does not produce the required team results.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 8:19 PM ET
Definitely not. Ottawa had depth at the position, and used it to their advantage.
- PLindbergh31


He was so good with Anderson out neither Bishop or Lehner could get a strong hold on the position.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 7 @ 8:20 PM ET
So if the Flyers are going to have this type of reckless style, why would they go out and spend a fortune on a goaltender?
- PLindbergh31


Team defense has not been great but I also won't let Bryzgalov off the hook either. He hasnt been very good since the beginning of the season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 8:20 PM ET
Bishop is a starter in this league. He's far from your typical third goalie.
- stveshdy


He's played 38 NHL games. It's amazing he's never won a Vezina
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