When have I ever said that? you're twisting my words.

What I said was, he hasn't played against the best competition this year.

In fact, in this post when you're talking about him LAST YEAR, you're completely correct. He played against the best, his charts show that. This year hasn't been the same story.
- TommyDeVito

and you're wrong

A "nod" implies he's been a top three player at his position this season, and he hasn't been, and I'm backing up my opinion with facts.

You're just talking about his skills and using that to tell me I'm wrong, which is absurd. Kovalev was extremely skilled, I don't recall him ever being awarded a Hart Trophy.

But like I said, it's too hard to have a good debate with a group of people who keep repeating the same things without any proof besides "but i watch the games and i know what I think Ive seen" and "stats are stupid" and "But Subban is super good!", and then deciding they'd rather just try and be demeaning with things like "LOL" and " " and "You must be a kid lol are u dumb lol you cant be serious bro lol must be a troll lol I don't like what he has to say"
- TommyDeVito

Subban/Gorges don't have to do as much since Markov is playing with Emelin this year. If you watched habs games, you'd know that Subban/Gorges get just as many important minutes as Emelin/Markov do. Your "facts" are skewed by the fact that he was eased into the lineup. "Child please" and "you're too blinded to understand" are the comments you used when you had nothing else to refer to but your chart.

Subban/Gorges don't have to do as much since Markov is playing with Emelin this year. If you watched habs games, you'd know that Subban/Gorges get just as many important minutes as Emelin/Markov do. Your "facts" are skewed by the fact that he was eased into the lineup. "Child please" and "you're too blinded to understand" are the comments you used when you had nothing else to refer to but your chart.
- God_then_kovy

exactly!

Wow, you guys sure told him...

Wow, you guys sure told him...
- slashtrash

He's still crying in my office.

Subban blows. I'll prove it with some circles and lines. Power play points don't count, the games are won by what team scores more even strength goals. Shut up and eat my facts.

He's still crying in my office.
- Scabeh

Is this your office?

He's still crying in my office.
- Scabeh

Yep, real upset over a bunch of butthurt fans who take "Subban isn't a top 3 defenseman this season" as a massive insult to him as a player, despite the evidence.

And you don't have an office.

Yep, real upset over a bunch of butthurt fans who take "Subban isn't a top 3 defenseman this season" as a massive insult to him as a player, despite the evidence.

And you don't have an office.
- TommyDeVito

it's time to leave kid. You don't get it and won't get it. Subban is a top 3 defenseman this year.

He plays on PP, PK, ES and gets 30 min+ vs the best players in Bos. You simply can't understand that he's a force at EV even if he's got 20 PP points.

Suter will get the Norris. Subban will be nominated. Get over it.

Is this your office?

- slashtrash

Subban blows. I'll prove it with some circles and lines. Power play points don't count, the games are won by what team scores more even strength goals. Shut up and eat my facts.
- sbroads24

As Casper once said. WATCH THE GAMES

I saw this today on twitter about Charles Hudon:

NHLYoungGunsDaily‏@YoungGunsDaily
PROSPECT 34: C.Hudon, F. #Habs-Good vision, Performs in all 3 zones, Great hockey IQ, Needs to fill frame + get skating to pro level…
NHLYoungGunsDaily‏@YoungGunsDaily
…Drafted #MTL Round 5(122). Projection: 2nd/3rd Line. Comparable: Niklas Hagman @KidHud_10 #HIT

Do you guys think he has a chance to make the habs team next year?

I saw this today on twitter about Charles Hudon:

NHLYoungGunsDaily‏@YoungGunsDaily
PROSPECT 34: C.Hudon, F. #Habs-Good vision, Performs in all 3 zones, Great hockey IQ, Needs to fill frame + get skating to pro level…
NHLYoungGunsDaily‏@YoungGunsDaily
…Drafted #MTL Round 5(122). Projection: 2nd/3rd Line. Comparable: Niklas Hagman @KidHud_10 #HIT

Do you guys think he has a chance to make the habs team next year?
- panthers92

no. But I'd wait to see what Tommy boy says. He knows better than us.

Guys, don't be upset that Tommy says Subban only plays against 3rd line players, I'd more more upset if I was a fan of the other team calling our 1st line, 3rd line players!!

no. But I'd wait to see what Tommy boy says. He knows better than us.
- muffin_man

With Emelin out of the lineup Subban will have to play defense now. Maybe now he can be a norris nod.

Also he got an even strength assist last night