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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 3 @ 9:14 AM ET
good luck... lol

I dont think Gus is ever gonna be more than a 6th d-man.. I was hoping he would break out, and said I could see him as a #4 PP d-man, but i have serious doubts about that.

Bishop is a gamble for sure in his own right... He has only played in 26 games, and before this season... he was a just a big mediocre goalie prospect.. before this season his best save% was .909 last year with the Sens.

- jak521


I need to see more of Gus at the NHL level. I think his skill set is a bit higher than a spare part.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 9:14 AM ET
they gave up a sh1tload of quality chances last nite
- isaiah520


They give up chances, but usually it's not a case where Bishop has to move a ton. The kind of chances the Flyers allow would expose his biggest weakness.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 3 @ 9:14 AM ET
To be honest though.. I dont think its a move we should make.
- jak521


If they decide to move on from Bryzgalov what are the options? Nevermind that who is the backup G next year? This nonsense with recycling Leighton and Boucher has to stop.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 9:15 AM ET
The Bruins had 50 shots on goal. And a ton of them were quality scoring chances. This notion that Ottawa is some defensive juggernaut isn't true.
- PLindbergh31


They're not a juggernaut. But how many of those chances and shots were off odd man rushes or breakaways? Bishop's biggest weakness is lateral movement. I think he'd have issues here and I wouldn't trade a high pick for him, personally.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 3 @ 9:16 AM ET
they gave up a sh1tload of quality chances last nite
- isaiah520

Tim Cheveldae had 12 NHL shutouts..
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 3 @ 9:16 AM ET
History as in the 2nd Flyers goalie to win a cup?
- jak521

do you dream in technicolor and 2:35:1 aspect ratio as well

this team's not a serious cup contender until '14-15 if their blueline is straightened out. and since lemaire has retired, bryz will have to make a few challenging saves.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 3 @ 9:17 AM ET
Only the Lord saves more than Bernie Parent......
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 3 @ 9:17 AM ET
If they decide to move on from Bryzgalov what are the options? Nevermind that who is the backup G next year? This nonsense with recycling Leighton and Boucher has to stop.
- PLindbergh31

You dont need to move players and picks to get a backup.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 3 @ 9:18 AM ET
the guy i would be targeting today (not a goaltender) is Kulikov out of Florida. He's apparently regressed a little in the eyes of the organization, so it could be a good time to grab a very good, young, puck-moving defenseman.

And not pay out the nose for an overrated, overpaid Keith Yandle.

- bradleyc4

that's the thought process for me. we have to catch a guy being sold low and take a chance w/ at least one of these plyrs we need.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 9:18 AM ET
the guy i would be targeting today (not a goaltender) is Kulikov out of Florida. He's apparently regressed a little in the eyes of the organization, so it could be a good time to grab a very good, young, puck-moving defenseman.

And not pay out the nose for an overrated, overpaid Keith Yandle.

- bradleyc4


I'd love to grab Kulikov. Not sure if they sell low, because as the Hespeler Wildman has pointed out, Detroit's offered a good prospect for him
wtfd103074
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: turnersville, NJ
Joined: 02.20.2012

Apr 3 @ 9:18 AM ET
Buyout Bryz, and Briere, Trade Couturier, Coburn and a first for Weber, Trade a 2nd and Noebels for Bishop.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 3 @ 9:19 AM ET
Here on buffalo radio reporting maybe coots prospect + pick for vanek. Anyone hear anyone In Philly hear anything about that. They are sourcing tsn saying Philly would be willing to move coots for for top scorer or dman???
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 9:20 AM ET
Here on buffalo radio reporting maybe coots prospect + pick for vanek. Anyone hear anyone In Philly hear anything about that. They are sourcing tsn saying Philly would be willing to move coots for for top scorer or dman???
- SMS4016


Rumor is they asked about both Vanek and Myers. No idea if they're really highly interested.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 3 @ 9:21 AM ET
Here on buffalo radio reporting maybe coots prospect + pick for vanek. Anyone hear anyone In Philly hear anything about that. They are sourcing tsn saying Philly would be willing to move coots for for top scorer or dman???
- SMS4016

nope.. wouldnt make sense either.. Couts a pick and a prospect for a forward? Yet they wouldnt do it for a d-man... the much more glaring need.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 3 @ 9:21 AM ET
They're not a juggernaut. But how many of those chances and shots were off odd man rushes or breakaways? Bishop's biggest weakness is lateral movement. I think he'd have issues here and I wouldn't trade a high pick for him, personally.
- Jsaquella

we need somebody like that along w/ stolarz as part of a plan...instead of a prayer for bryz to play better if we start playing like the '95 devils
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 3 @ 9:21 AM ET
Buyout Bryz, and Briere, Trade Couturier, Coburn and a first for Weber, Trade a 2nd and Noebels for Bishop.
- wtfd103074

Somebody let Milbury back on HB?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 3 @ 9:22 AM ET
I'd love to grab Kulikov. Not sure if they sell low, because as the Hespeler Wildman has pointed out, Detroit's offered a good prospect for him
- Jsaquella


They might be more interested in an NHL-ready guy like Brayden Schenn.

Obviously, that would not be "selling low", but I'd consider a deal with Schenn/Kulikov as the basis. (I'd want a little more in return)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 9:24 AM ET
The important thing to take away from today is that, according to Bruce Campbell, the sequel to Bubba Ho-Tep is back in the works.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 9:25 AM ET
They might be more interested in an NHL-ready guy like Brayden Schenn.

Obviously, that would not be "selling low", but I'd consider a deal with Schenn/Kulikov as the basis. (I'd want a little more in return)

- bradleyc4


Agreed, I'm open to anything. Kulikov is a talented kid.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 3 @ 9:25 AM ET
They might be more interested in an NHL-ready guy like Brayden Schenn.

Obviously, that would not be "selling low", but I'd consider a deal with Schenn/Kulikov as the basis. (I'd want a little more in return)

- bradleyc4

like gudbransen instead
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 3 @ 9:26 AM ET
They're not a juggernaut. But how many of those chances and shots were off odd man rushes or breakaways? Bishop's biggest weakness is lateral movement. I think he'd have issues here and I wouldn't trade a high pick for him, personally.
- Jsaquella


They don't give up a ton of odd man rushes, but they give up a bunch of quality chances per game. I watch them a lot. Their team save % leads the NHL by a significant margin. It has to do with their Goalies being talented.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 3 @ 9:27 AM ET
nope.. wouldnt make sense either.. Couts a pick and a prospect for a forward? Yet they wouldnt do it for a d-man... the much more glaring need.
- jak521

Guess thats buffalos asking price. I'd be pissed if Philly gave all that up for vanek. Maybe coots for vanek straight up but I wouldn't add to it and I'd rather move coots for a dman but could Understand if Philly moved coots straight up for vanek. Guy is a beast in front of net and on pp. Good for 35 to 40 goals a year.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 3 @ 9:27 AM ET
They might be more interested in an NHL-ready guy like Brayden Schenn.

Obviously, that would not be "selling low", but I'd consider a deal with Schenn/Kulikov as the basis. (I'd want a little more in return)

- bradleyc4


I would be a shame to break up the Schenn brothers, but I'd rather lose B Schenn than Couturier.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 9:27 AM ET
like gudbransen instead
- isaiah520


I'd be interested in either, but I'm still high on Schenn. During the NJ series, I thought he was one of the better players. I still want to see him with a full NHL season and contiinuous linemates.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 3 @ 9:28 AM ET
like gudbransen instead
- isaiah520


Same here.
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