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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
Source in Minnesota says deal is Pommer for Hacket, Larsson AND a first and a second.


Overpayment of the Year?

- shekkie


Haaaaaaaaa buffalo will still edge out flyers for playoffs with all these great picks. Really a sad state of affairs seeing what other teams are getting
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
Thoughts:

Philly helps Columbus clear cap/salary restrictions to acquire Gaborik (taking Mason's 2.9 mil. cap).

By helping Columbus clear cap space, Flyers have helped facilitate the trade of one of our enemy's top snipers (Rangers) thereby boosting Philly's chances of sneaking into #8 seed.

Or am I just Lebowski sitting in the back of a limo holding a toe in a bandage.

- Moose_15

As ridiculous as this sounds....this is absolutely plausible....
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
Thoughts:

Philly helps Columbus clear cap/salary restrictions to acquire Gaborik (taking Mason's 2.9 mil. cap).

By helping Columbus clear cap space, Flyers have helped facilitate the trade of one of our enemy's top snipers (Rangers) thereby boosting Philly's chances of sneaking into #8 seed.

Or am I just Lebowski sitting in the back of a limo holding a toe in a bandage.

- Moose_15


Do you make your own tin foil hats or do you get yours on ebay like I do?

/I keed, I keed
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
An injury prone 2nd line center, an injured grinder and a prospect defenseman...yeah, overwhelming.
- Jsaquella



I think they did well. they really needed to get rid of that contract. for whatever reason it just wasn't working in NY this year. look at columbus and what they got for nash. on the surface the production doesn't look great but they have played far better this year. thinking getting those 3 may really help the rangers long run
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
Feels a little better but still raises more questions than settles.
- shekkie


Not really. My guess is, they have made the decision to buy out Bryzgalov and landing Mason is simply getting a head start on the goalie spot for next year. They know that they'll have money now and other options, be it a trade or free agent and pull the pin now.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
3rd rd pick for a rental back up when their chance at the play offs is very slim is what the deal amounts to.

I can't see them keeping Mason and Bryz both next season at ~8.5 M cap hit for the two goalies

- Marc D

To me it shows that they haven't yet decided whether to buy out Bryz. But if they do, they want a good plan B to go to.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
3rd rounder is from2015
- GirouxForTheShow

Like a double rainbow...what does it mean???



Who trade a pick in 2 years?
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
and it's the old hindsight being 20/20 as well. When Bob was here there were a million comments about how he had fatal flaws, and would never be a top notch goalie.

he's had a good half season and now some people think he's Hasek in his prime.

- FlyerGuy


There were also a lot of people saying the team should just grow with him because he has the potential to be really good.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
I think they did well. they really needed to get rid of that contract. for whatever reason it just wasn't working in NY this year. look at columbus and what they got for nash. on the surface the production doesn't look great but they have played far better this year. thinking getting those 3 may really help the rangers long run
- nastyflyergirl


It's an OK return for a guy that didn't fit anymore. I'm not overly impressed with any of the three guys they got, though
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
Mason is a guy they have liked for awhile, who they feel they can fix. It's time to just wait and see now.
- Jsaquella


he's a leftie. he can't be fixed. unless you get burgess meredith to tie his arm to his body.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
As ridiculous as this sounds....this is absolutely plausible....
- Giroux_Is_God



taking on that contract I really would have liked to see the Flyers pick up a draft pick as well
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
The pick in the Mason trade is a 2015 3rd rounder.
- Jsaquella

Starting to sit well with me, then.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
Redden for a 7th? really?
we could have used that!
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
Do you make your own tin foil hats or do you get yours on ebay like I do?

/I keed, I keed

- johndewar

Laughing so loud in my office right now.
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Apr 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
Bob's had a pretty nice stretch of games for CBJ this year.

Know who had a pretty nice stretch of games a few years back and was rookie of the year?

Steve Mason.

Point is: I think it's a little too early to be turning Bob into Ken Dryden and Steve Mason into Jim Carey.

- johndewar

Exactly. Let's also be VERY REAL here when talking about Bob... I don't care what ANYONE says, he would NOT have saved this team. Or, we wouldn't suddenly be in the playoffs or in contention. We have too many underlying TEAM issues. Sure, Bob may have helped, but he wouldn't have been much better than Bryz, in my opinion.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:42 PM ET
Feels a little better but still raises more questions than settles.
- shekkie


Homer hoping for Kari Lehtonen, part two.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:42 PM ET
Thoughts:

Philly helps Columbus clear cap/salary restrictions to acquire Gaborik (taking Mason's 2.9 mil. cap).

By helping Columbus clear cap space, Flyers have helped facilitate the trade of one of our enemy's top snipers (Rangers) thereby boosting Philly's chances of sneaking into #8 seed.

Or am I just Lebowski sitting in the back of a limo holding a toe in a bandage.

- Moose_15


Columbus is in the Eastern Conference next season, so no, I don't think so.
shekkie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Perkasie, PA
Joined: 07.05.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:42 PM ET
Not really. My guess is, they have made the decision to buy out Bryzgalov and landing Mason is simply getting a head start on the goalie spot for next year. They know that they'll have money now and other options, be it a trade or free agent and pull the pin now.
- Jsaquella


I think you're right. I fully expect a presser with Holmgren saying that Bryz's future with the team is in no way affected by this move and he's our goalie for the full length of his contract.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Apr 3 @ 3:42 PM ET
There were also a lot of people saying the team should just grow with him because he has the potential to be really good.
- eayost


Actually, the thing I liked about him was he had two things - raw athletic talent and a fierce work ethic, which to me meant a better than good chance he'd actually reach his potential.

It's the same combination I admire in Giroux!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:42 PM ET
Lots of players have huge potential, that means....

Nothing unless there is results. Playing the potential game is pointless. Martin St. Louis had very little potential to play in the NHL when he was in Calgary.

- Glak18



I just pointed out the results that the players I named were getting. As an example, you called Voracek scoring at a full season pace of 81 points, unimpressive.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:43 PM ET
And yes, it would have been great to have just held onto Bobrovsky, but that didn't (frank)ing happen, so spilled milk
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 3 @ 3:43 PM ET
taking on that contract I really would have liked to see the Flyers pick up a draft pick as well
- nastyflyergirl

Or at least not give one up.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 3 @ 3:43 PM ET
Haha...dude I was just literally about to write the same thing but gave one quick scroll down before replying
- TheGreat28

As soon as I heard the words mason/Philly that was my 1st thought. Didn't even have to hear the rest of the deal
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Apr 3 @ 3:44 PM ET
And yes, it would have been great to have just held onto Bobrovsky, but that didn't (frank)ing happen, so spilled milk
- Jsaquella


Understand...just that the milk seems to keep spilling and no one can find the lid
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:44 PM ET
There were also a lot of people saying the team should just grow with him because he has the potential to be really good.
- eayost

True.

I'm just gonna give Bob another year or two before I can say that he was this diamond in the rough.
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