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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
Have you been able to watch any games this year or are you just a box score kinda guy?

I've been seeing a lot of inconsistent and lack of production through out the year from especially ALL 3. Best of those mentioned has been Voracek, even with the enormous amount of turnovers in the offensive zone. Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of Jake, then again I was told I was stupid because I wanted to trade down in 2007 get an asset and draft Voracek. Go figure.

- Glak18



Have they been producing, yes or no? Do the players I mentioned show a lot of promise and potential by how they played this year? Yers or no? Do the Flyers have a strong base of young talent to build on? Yes, or no?
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
his 2.9 ends this year (2 months) we only pay him like a third of that, then he is a rfa who will take a huge pay cut
- mydoglicks



Mason makes 3.2 and the Flyers have to qualify him at 3.2 mill if they want to retain his rights. Mason can choose to be a free agent rather than take a pay cut to stay with the Flyers. He may take a pay cut but the Flyers have zero leverage in negotiations.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
It's my guess that Mason will get every opportunity to prove he can regain his rookie form and if he does, that the Flyers will exercise the buyout on Bryzgalov and sign Ray Emery(or similar time splitting type) and go with him and Mason as the goalies next season.
- Jsaquella


I think people are reading to much in this....I still feel Bryz stays next year
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
Why would he take a huge paycut? His Q offer alone is going to be equal to what he makes right now.
- MJL


idk then, either the sign him and buyout bryz, or trade/let him walk...if he makes 3 and is a rfa, he cannot take a lesserdeal then 3 mil per?
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
And the goalie carosel continues. Ironic that the flyers trade away bob for no reason and take a risk on another guy.

The flyers have no (frank)ing clue when it comes to goalies.

- feelingkettle


Just goalies??
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Apr 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
How many of you think that Bryz might face a buy out and Mason is the stop gap?
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Apr 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
As RFA making 2.9M, to qualify him they have to give him a raise.

Unless they think Mason is a starter that is better then Bryz, the deal is highly questionable to me.

Mason is young, but he's regressed.

Philly's team D is not going to help him get better.

If they re up with Mason and keep Bryz they have like 8M in cap hits for the goalies.

It doesn't make any sense to me.

- Marc D


Mason regressed however so have many other young goalies and they have regained their form. Carey Price wasn't very good for the Habs after his rookie season and look where he is now. Goalies are weird, I think the change of scenery will be good for Mason.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
Not a big deal, Mason's current deal is over after this season and will most likely be signed for much less than his current contract. I don't think that giving Mason a chance to recapture his form is a bad thing and the change of scenery could be all Mason needs to get back to were he was.
- FreshFlyer


assuming the flyers want to keep him, and assuming he would take less. otherwise, we just gave up a 3rd round pick for no reason.

would have been nice to just be patient with a talented young goalie and see what happens.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
As RFA making 2.9M, to qualify him they have to give him a raise.

Unless they think Mason is a starter that is better then Bryz, the deal is highly questionable to me.

Mason is young, but he's regressed.

Philly's team D is not going to help him get better.

If they re up with Mason and keep Bryz they have like 8M in cap hits for the goalies.

It doesn't make any sense to me.

- Marc D


To me it says that both Bryz and Briere (if his concussions heal) are both amnestied this summer. And they use that money to try and sign some defensive upgrades.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
It's my guess that Mason will get every opportunity to prove he can regain his rookie form and if he does, that the Flyers will exercise the buyout on Bryzgalov and sign Ray Emery(or similar time splitting type) and go with him and Mason as the goalies next season.
- Jsaquella

Is this satire? I don't know what is real anymore.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
I mean....I guess I can't complain with Mason. He's not going to threat Bryz, but he's more capable of a backup than either Leighton or Boosh, in my opinion.

Adam Hall? What do we think?

Psyched Ben Bishop got dealt. It'll help out my fantasy teams

Who saw the Jackets going after Gaborik!! Wow. Didn't see that coming. I think that they might have won that trade too....THAT hasn't happened in a while
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
Mason makes 3.2 and the Flyers have to qualify him at 3.2 mill if they want to retain his rights. Mason can choose to be a free agent rather than take a pay cut to stay with the Flyers. He may take a pay cut but the Flyers have zero leverage in negotiations.
- Flyers_01


so they could not sign him right now to a 3 year extension for 1.5 per?
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Apr 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
Frackin... Steve... Mason.... Crap...
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
As RFA making 2.9M, to qualify him they have to give him a raise.

Unless they think Mason is a starter that is better then Bryz, the deal is highly questionable to me.

Mason is young, but he's regressed.

Philly's team D is not going to help him get better.

If they re up with Mason and keep Bryz they have like 8M in cap hits for the goalies.

It doesn't make any sense to me.

- Marc D


I'd like that fly on the GM's wall to tell me if Homer made a decent effort to obtain Bishop.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Apr 3 @ 3:12 PM ET
To me it says that both Bryz and Briere (if his concussions heal) are both amnestied this summer. And they use that money to try and sign some defensive upgrades.
- MBFlyerfan


Most likely and that is what they need Defense so I definitely see the point of what they are doing.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 3 @ 3:12 PM ET
Mason regressed however so have many other young goalies and they have regained their form. Carey Price wasn't very good for the Habs after his rookie season and look where he is now. Goalies are weird, I think the change of scenery will be good for Mason.
- FreshFlyer



great example
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 3 @ 3:12 PM ET
I think people are reading to much in this....I still feel Bryz stays next year
- nonpoint22

Agreed. Bryz needs a little bit of help.

Just a capable backup move and nothing more, I think.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 3 @ 3:12 PM ET


Relax...just a bit of an overpayment

- Orpik44

Show me the one with Flower, that's the funniest one. Also the GIF of marty getting punked by briere in the playoffs a couple of years back
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 3:13 PM ET
so they could not sign him right now to a 3 year extension for 1.5 per?
- mydoglicks



Sure they could. But I don't know why he would sign that.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 3 @ 3:13 PM ET
How many of you think that Bryz might face a buy out and Mason is the stop gap?
- Ben37

LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Apr 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
As RFA making 2.9M, to qualify him they have to give him a raise.

Unless they think Mason is a starter that is better then Bryz, the deal is highly questionable to me.

Mason is young, but he's regressed.

Philly's team D is not going to help him get better.

If they re up with Mason and keep Bryz they have like 8M in cap hits for the goalies.

It doesn't make any sense to me.

- Marc D


Yea. I'm not a fan whatsoever.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
Bryzgalov could be bought out this summer...I see no harm in making a deal to see if Mason can recapture his form.
- Jsaquella


If they do that because they think Mason is the answer I will be dumbfounded.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
well the deadline passes....they didn't sell as I had hoped but at least they didnt move their first or second rounder or any of their kids.....for now of course. rather not have moved the 3rd for Mason but whatever at this point. we all have been female doging about the lack of a backup. yes the cap hit is brutal

for the person who said they prefered the Bishop trade, who would you have moved in place of Conacher from the Flyers roster? Read? no thanks
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
Sure they could. But I don't know why he would sign that.
- MJL


maybe he feels insecure with his bad play the past couple years and wants to be wanted?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
I'd like that fly on the GM's wall to tell me if Homer made a decent effort to obtain Bishop.
- 77rams

Reportedly, the price on Bishop was too high for Philadelphia.
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