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nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 20 @ 8:49 PM ET
There are too many forwards in this draft that the flyers will salivate over. No way in hell they draft a d man. I don't care either way its just what's happening
- Just5


It all depends what pick they get and who is available...I truly believe they will pick best player available, but if there is a forward and a defenseman that they feel are comparable to each other I think this time they will go d man
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 20 @ 8:53 PM ET
It all depends what pick they get and who is available...I truly believe they will pick best player available, but if there is a forward and a defenseman that they feel are comparable to each other I think this time they will go d man
- nonpoint22


They might, who knows who could drop? Every year there's a great prospect that drops a few slots. Nurse and Ristolainen seem to be the risers this year, while Zadorov and Monahan seem the droppers
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 20 @ 8:53 PM ET
In 2008, they took Sbisa, despite a couple of highly rated forwards still being on the board. They take the guy at the top of their board in round one, regardless of position.
- Jsaquella


Sbisa turned out to be a decent NHL d man..He would really help this team, but when you can get a difference maker like Pronger you do it....I would make the deal they did every day and twice on Sunday...but your point is a very valid one
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 20 @ 8:53 PM ET
It all depends what pick they get and who is available...I truly believe they will pick best player available, but if there is a forward and a defenseman that they feel are comparable to each other I think this time they will go d man
- nonpoint22


Wanna bet lol
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 20 @ 8:55 PM ET
There are too many forwards in this draft that the flyers will salivate over. No way in hell they draft a d man. I don't care either way its just what's happening
- Just5


Outside of Seth Jones, there may not be a D who goes in the top 10 this year. So there is definitely a very good chance the "best available player" when the Flyers pick will be a forward. I'd be fine with it, too.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 20 @ 8:56 PM ET
They might, who knows who could drop? Every year there's a great prospect that drops a few slots. Nurse and Ristolainen seem to be the risers this year, while Zadorov and Monahan seem the droppers
- Jsaquella


My real worry is that they would reach for a d man and miss instead of getting BPA, even if he is a forward, cause like Bill said in his column at least that could give us trade assets to aquire a top end d man without opening up other holes in the team
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 20 @ 8:57 PM ET
Damn. It's like doc got stabbed calling that wild goal. Is he a detroit guy?
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 20 @ 8:57 PM ET
Wanna bet lol
- Just5


It all depends.....If somehow they get top pick or he drops to them I would bet they would take Seth Jones over anybody eventhough I doubt they get him
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 20 @ 8:58 PM ET
Outside of Seth Jones, there may not be a D who goes in the top 10 this year. So there is definitely a very good chance the "best available player" when the Flyers pick will be a forward. I'd be fine with it, too.
- bmeltzer


Not even pulock? I thought he was sure fire top 10
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 8:59 PM ET
Outside of Seth Jones, there may not be a D who goes in the top 10 this year. So there is definitely a very good chance the "best available player" when the Flyers pick will be a forward. I'd be fine with it, too.
- bmeltzer


It's the way it should go, should try to reach for a player.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 20 @ 8:59 PM ET
Damn. It's like doc got stabbed calling that wild goal. Is he a detroit guy?
- Just5


funniest commentating duo was Thorne and Clement doing a Flyers Rags game...cause it was so apparent that Thorne was a Rags fan and Clement was Flyers....still best commentating duo ever
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 8:59 PM ET
Not even pulock? I thought he was sure fire top 10
- Just5


Outside Jones it's a guessing game to see if any other D are in the top 10, it's always possible.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 9:01 PM ET
Its a gift he has.....whether you think he is a dirty player or not
- nonpoint22

It's that same play over and over too
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 20 @ 9:02 PM ET
Outside Jones it's a guessing game to see if any other D are in the top 10, it's always possible.
- ob18


I wonder if as the position of defense becomes more and more desirable I wonder if we will start seeing more d men be overvalued in the draft
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 20 @ 9:03 PM ET
Outside of Seth Jones, there may not be a D who goes in the top 10 this year. So there is definitely a very good chance the "best available player" when the Flyers pick will be a forward. I'd be fine with it, too.
- bmeltzer


Bill if lava is the coach next year, do you think the flyers can come back with the mix of schenn, grossman, coburn on defense? Just seems like its a bad mix for what they want to do
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 20 @ 9:03 PM ET
It's that same play over and over too
- JoeRussomanno


Yup I was in the building when he introduced himself to Jake
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 20 @ 9:03 PM ET
I wonder if as the position of defense becomes more and more desirable I wonder if we will start seeing more d men be overvalued in the draft
- nonpoint22


We saw a few go in the top ten last year that were expected to be late first rounders
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 20 @ 9:04 PM ET
lupul getting suspended
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 9:04 PM ET
He came damned close to laving his feet.
- Jsaquella

Know what tho? It's no secret that if you're skating up the wing with you head down he's coming. Leaving his feet or not he's gonna blast you. Dumb ass forwards should know this by now.

Okay time for through the worm hole to observe discussion on the greatest scientific discovery of at least my lifetime
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 9:04 PM ET
I wonder if as the position of defense becomes more and more desirable I wonder if we will start seeing more d men be overvalued in the draft
- nonpoint22


That's going to happen, every team will have to really do homework on them.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 9:05 PM ET
We saw a few go in the top ten last year that were expected to be late first rounders
- Jsaquella


There are many I like but I agree outside Jones I'm not 100% sure right now at least that I'd pull the trigger inside the top 10.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 20 @ 9:05 PM ET
Outside Jones it's a guessing game to see if any other D are in the top 10, it's always possible.
- ob18


Personally, if they have a chance to get Jones, Zadorov, Ristolainen or Nurse I would hope they take one, give Bettman a slap on the ass and run away happy.

Quality d-men, especially young guys, have to be overpaid for these days. I would be really damn happy with Zadorov, Ristolainen or Nurse.

Edit: My exceptions would be for Drouin, Mack, or Barkov.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 20 @ 9:07 PM ET
Personally, if they have a chance to get Jones, Zadorov, Ristolainen or Nurse I would hope they take one, give Bettman a slap on the ass and run away happy.

Quality d-men, especially young guys, have to be overpaid for these days. I would be really damn happy with Zadorov, Ristolainen or Nurse.

- flyer_nutter

tank for jones
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 20 @ 9:07 PM ET
Bill if lava is the coach next year, do you think the flyers can come back with the mix of schenn, grossman, coburn on defense? Just seems like its a bad mix for what they want to do
- Just5


Yes, they can. But they also need to add a highly mobile puck mover and also need Meszaros to stay healthy and return to his top form.

nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 20 @ 9:07 PM ET
Bill if lava is the coach next year, do you think the flyers can come back with the mix of schenn, grossman, coburn on defense? Just seems like its a bad mix for what they want to do
- Just5


No they are too slow and frankly not good enough for lavys system
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