Ya Malkin and Cosby's grit really shone against the Flyers. Thats the difference... Regardless, the Flames organization is to inept these days to move Iggy unless he demands it...
As for Gio... having a tough year but would be exactly what you NEED.
- geta02it

Why should Pittsburgh acquire two guys having a tough or average year and pay top price for? Yes, your organization is inept. They should have moved him two years ago to start the rebuild when his return would have been greater.

I said my piece on Iginla at the end of the last blog so I'm good for now.

No Malkin tomorrow, hopefully we gets some goals before the 3rd period
- ryman1566

Good call. I hope Geno takes all the time he needs. After all he is one of the only guys we have that played a full season.

We are the leading scoring team in the freakin league. We don't need goal scorers. Our power play is among the top five and this is without Malkin for the last four games.

I don't want to give up a first and a D prospect for a rental that DOESN'T shore up our major needs. We could use him, but we don't need him. Big difference. He is also a rental. He will high tail it back to Calgary after the season IMO.

Giordano - how does his 4.02 cap hit for the next three years really help us? We need a physical STAY AT HOME BLUELINER that HITS - a younger Brooks Orpik. Giordano isn't that.

I don't need the history review of Iggy. He is a future hall of famer without question. But to say he is a need for Pittsburgh is completely idiotic.

I would do a Stempy deal for a second.
- Oneonta Penguin

Oneonta, Giordano can HIT, VERY WELL. Perhaps you haven't watched him play a lot.
Here is a video against the best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebE8LTbe4GA

Oneonta, Giordano can HIT, VERY WELL. Perhaps you haven't watched him play a lot.
Here is a video against the best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebE8LTbe4GA
- Orpik44

Fine, he can hit. He also has a 4.02 cap hit for the next three years and Calgary fans think the guy is worth three pieces. He isn't a rental, like Iggy.

If Calgary calls Shero and said Stempy and Giordano for a second, D prospect and the rights to TK, I might pull the trigger.

Why should Pittsburgh acquire two guys having a tough or average year and pay top price for? Yes, your organization is inept. They should have moved him two years ago to start the rebuild when his return would have been greater.
- Oneonta Penguin

See above posts...

Fine, he can hit. He also has a 4.02 cap hit for the next three years and Calgary fans think the guy is worth three pieces. He isn't a rental, like Iggy.

If Calgary calls Shero and said Stempy and Giordano for a second, D prospect and the rights to TK, I might pull the trigger.
- Oneonta Penguin

I understand the want to get Kennedy out of town, but if you think about it the guy works his ass off every single shift. Never do you see TK dogging it, he would be a great asset to out 4th line. He maybe the best 4th liner in the game.

Fine, he can hit. He also has a 4.02 cap hit for the next three years and Calgary fans think the guy is worth three pieces. He isn't a rental, like Iggy.

If Calgary calls Shero and said Stempy and Giordano for a second, D prospect and the rights to TK, I might pull the trigger.
- Oneonta Penguin

I know what you mean. I think this would be more of an attempt to maximize the price in a deal including Iginla. Shero wouldn't be dumb to add more than market value.

So, two spare parts; a failing prospect and a late first round selection for a younger and better player than Iggy at the time of the deal.
- Oneonta Penguin

Esposito wasn't a failing prospect at the time. He was drafted in '07, and traded in '08 at the end of a junior season that was as good as his draft season. Yes, he turned out to be a bust, but that is hindsight.

I know what you mean. I think this would be more of an attempt to maximize the price in a deal including Iginla. Shero wouldn't be dumb to add more than market value.
- Orpik44

Outside of the Ponikarovski trade, Shero's track record has spoken for itself in making good deals for this franchise. Even the chip we gave up for Poni has done absolutley nothing in the minors.....so much in fact I have forgotten his name!!

Oneonta, Giordano can HIT, VERY WELL. Perhaps you haven't watched him play a lot.
Here is a video against the best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebE8LTbe4GA
- Orpik44

(frank) it! We're keeping him.

Outside of the Ponikarovski trade, Shero's track record has spoken for itself in making good deals for this franchise. Even the chip we gave up for Poni has done absolutley nothing in the minors.....so much in fact I have forgotten his name!!
- ryman1566

Besides Staal, where there were cap implications and got GREAT return, Shero has not yet traded a guy where I've ever thought "Man, I wish we had him back".

Besides Staal, where there were cap implications and got GREAT return, Shero has not yet traded a guy where I've ever thought "Man, I wish we had him back".
- rival22

Caputi, finally remembered

Esposito wasn't a failing prospect at the time. He was drafted in '07, and traded in '08 at the end of a junior season that was as good as his draft season. Yes, he turned out to be a bust, but that is hindsight.
- rival22

Yes he was. His stock plummeted prior to being drafted. He was a kid that was supposed to go number one and dropped several spots to 20. His numbers significantly dropped in the Q after that. He was on the decline.

Esposito wasn't a failing prospect at the time. He was drafted in '07, and traded in '08 at the end of a junior season that was as good as his draft season. Yes, he turned out to be a bust, but that is hindsight.
- rival22

The writing was on the wall with Esposito. He had originally been advertised as having potential to go very high in the draft(top 5) and eventually slipped all the way to Pitt. As I recall, didnt he have some off the ice/maturity issues as well?

ill take iggy but not for a 1st and prospect...

jeffery and nisk or jeffrey nisk and 3rd should get it done... this helps with their rebuild...

save the despres and letang and 1sts for the ryans, eberles, perry kinda trade rumors...

and a gritty 3rd line player to take tks spot and a tough 4th line player to take glasses spot and a true defensive dman to put into the lineup that wont take despres out
- nh4442

Both are too old to be considered something to help with their rebuild. They're also nothing outstanding. Too old to be prosepects which is what Calgary needs.
That's just a low ball offer IMO Calgary will get much better offers.

I still think Iginla is the wrong way to go. Defense is what's needed here.

Besides Staal, where there were cap implications and got GREAT return, Shero has not yet traded a guy where I've ever thought "Man, I wish we had him back".
- rival22

This is true.

Shero is already on record that he will not trade his high end prospects for a rental. I see no way Iggy ends up here unless they take some combination of picks, maybe a 2nd tier prospect and maybe a roster player like Nisk or TK. I don't see it happening and I'm not sure it's necessary.

Players like Maatta, Pouliot, Morrow won't be going anywhere for a rental.

Outside of the Ponikarovski trade, Shero's track record has spoken for itself in making good deals for this franchise. Even the chip we gave up for Poni has done absolutley nothing in the minors.....so much in fact I have forgotten his name!!
- ryman1566

Luca Caputi he was a big bust....did play a few games in the big club but nothing special.

Acquiring Iginla simultaneously improves the best first line in hockey and the third line should Dupuis be dropped there.

As for who would be given up in a trade, one would have to think that a defensive prospect and pick are guaranteed to go since Calgary will (FINALLY) be looking to rebuild. I have no idea who they would want from the current active roster, maybe Kennedy, Jeffrey, Niskanen, or Despres. I don't see the Pens moving anyone in their top 6 for this to happen.

This is true.

Shero is already on record that he will not trade his high end prospects for a rental. I see no way Iggy ends up here unless they take some combination of picks, maybe a 2nd tier prospect and maybe a roster player like Nisk or TK. I don't see it happening and I'm not sure it's necessary.

Players like Maatta, Pouliot, Morrow won't be going anywhere for a rental.
- madmike71

Don't forget about Harrington and Despres

Acquiring Iginla simultaneously improves the best first line in hockey and the third line should Dupuis be dropped there.

As for who would be given up in a trade, one would have to think that a defensive prospect and pick are guaranteed to go since Calgary will (FINALLY) be looking to rebuild. I have no idea who they would want from the current active roster, maybe Kennedy, Jeffrey, Niskanen, or Despres. I don't see the Pens moving anyone in their top 6 for this to happen.
- poochy13

I think a first and a good prospect is fair.

EDIT: even if it isn't the best move to be making.

Acquiring Iginla simultaneously improves the best first line in hockey and the third line should Dupuis be dropped there.

As for who would be given up in a trade, one would have to think that a defensive prospect and pick are guaranteed to go since Calgary will (FINALLY) be looking to rebuild. I have no idea who they would want from the current active roster, maybe Kennedy, Jeffrey, Niskanen, or Despres. I don't see the Pens moving anyone in their top 6 for this to happen.
- poochy13

I doubt Shero would trade Niskanen, unless he's taking Giordano back. We need Niskanen this year, really.

I'd trade Dumoulin + 2nd or 1st pick, Glass without a doubt..

Why spend this time with realignment with too many moving parts right now. You have an unbalanced 16-14 split already with the new system - more in the east. You then have the question of Phoenix. Where is this organization two or three years down the road. If its in Seattle or Kansas City, then no problem. If its in Southern Ontario, Toronto or Quebec, you have a problem. Then, you have the possibility of expansion as well in a few markets. Wait and let things sort out before making such a move. Why realign now, when you are probably apt to have to change things around two to three years from now?
- Oneonta Penguin

It was time to realign if only to be fair to Winnipeg....they needed to be out of the southeast. Travel has got to be just a killer for them.

Acquiring Iginla simultaneously improves the best first line in hockey and the third line should Dupuis be dropped there.

As for who would be given up in a trade, one would have to think that a defensive prospect and pick are guaranteed to go since Calgary will (FINALLY) be looking to rebuild. I have no idea who they would want from the current active roster, maybe Kennedy, Jeffrey, Niskanen, or Despres. I don't see the Pens moving anyone in their top 6 for this to happen.
- poochy13

I'm not moving Despres period. Although the coach doesn't seem to be a fan, I think he's easily in the top 4 on this team already. He looks like he has untapped offensive skills too.

The Pens are going to need some of these young players to give them good value as they move away from some more expensive players.