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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 14 @ 3:59 PM ET
Did the Penguins ever draft a defenseman with their high picks? They are on a similar trajectory as to the Pens. They are only in year three of the rebuild. Remember it took the Penguins 5 years from when they drafted Fleury to make the playoffs. It's been three since they drafted Hall.
- Ben37

Ryan Whitney?
AncasterPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 05.06.2007

Mar 14 @ 3:59 PM ET
Did the Penguins ever draft a defenseman with their high picks? They are on a similar trajectory as to the Pens. They are only in year three of the rebuild. Remember it took the Penguins 5 years from when they drafted Fleury to make the playoffs. It's been three since they drafted Hall.
- Ben37



Whitney.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 14 @ 4:00 PM ET
Whitney.
- AncasterPens

And why not say Orpik
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Mar 14 @ 4:01 PM ET
Did the Penguins ever draft a defenseman with their high picks? They are on a similar trajectory as to the Pens. They are only in year three of the rebuild. Remember it took the Penguins 5 years from when they drafted Fleury to make the playoffs. It's been three since they drafted Hall.
- Ben37


Whitney was 5th overall. I'd put him in with the rebuild.
AncasterPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 05.06.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:03 PM ET
And why not say Orpik
- Orpik44


He wasn't a high pick.
schoobs2731
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sunnyvale
Joined: 03.06.2009

Mar 14 @ 4:06 PM ET
has anyone discussed our need for a 4th liner that even has the possibility of scoring? Our 4th liners are all minus players while the rest of the team are pluses. Id love a jarko ruutu type of 4th liner or a gary roberta. Not scorers but guys that at least have the chance of scoring.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 14 @ 4:09 PM ET
has anyone discussed our need for a 4th liner that even has the possibility of scoring? Our 4th liners are all minus players while the rest of the team are pluses. Id love a jarko ruutu type of 4th liner or a gary roberta. Not scorers but guys that at least have the chance of scoring.
- schoobs2731

Talbot?
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 14 @ 4:11 PM ET
He wasn't a high pick.
- AncasterPens

Yeah I know. He at least was in the middle of the pack. 18th overall is not too shabby.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:11 PM ET
To me Bennett looks the most impressive when he is throwing his body around. He has really caught my attention with some physical plays in the corners that have resulted in turnovers and wonderful scoring opportunities.
- kill.monsters


He'll be even better when he fills out a bit....remember what a beanpole Malkin looked like his rookie year?
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:15 PM ET
He wasn't a high pick.
- AncasterPens


Still a first rounder...that's kind of the definition of "high" isn't it?
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 14 @ 4:16 PM ET
Still a first rounder...that's kind of the definition of "high" isn't it?
- Emperor Filonius

Enlighten me on this one: what did Anaheim get for Justin Schultz being a Richard?
Killian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Germantown, MD
Joined: 02.22.2013

Mar 14 @ 4:17 PM ET
Still a first rounder...that's kind of the definition of "high" isn't it?
- Emperor Filonius


I would consider Orpik "Middle of the Pack"

High would be 1-5...maybe even a top 10 pick.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:18 PM ET
Enlighten me on this one: what did Anaheim get for Justin Schultz being a Richard?
- Orpik44


Nothing
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 14 @ 4:20 PM ET
Nothing
- Gunner Staal


What kind of rules are that? The guy was drafted and simply didn't want to sign with Anaheim and they get shafted?
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:20 PM ET
Enlighten me on this one: what did Anaheim get for Justin Schultz being a Richard?
- Orpik44



According to wiki:

During the last week of May, 2012, Schultz officially "de-registered" from the University of Wisconsin triggering a process that made him an unrestricted free agent (UFA). According to league rules, from the time Anaheim was given notice of the de-registration from school, they had a 30-day exclusive window to try to sign him or trade him. Anaheim was ultimately unable to sign him. On June 30, 2012, Schultz agreed to a two year entry-level contract with the Edmonton Oilers.

You would think that there would be some sort of compensation pick given to Anaheim.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Mar 14 @ 4:20 PM ET
Talbot?
- Orpik44


His contract sucks and last year was a fluke.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 14 @ 4:22 PM ET
According to wiki:

During the last week of May, 2012, Schultz officially "de-registered" from the University of Wisconsin triggering a process that made him an unrestricted free agent (UFA). According to league rules, from the time Anaheim was given notice of the de-registration from school, they had a 30-day exclusive window to try to sign him or trade him. Anaheim was ultimately unable to sign him. On June 30, 2012, Schultz agreed to a two year entry-level contract with the Edmonton Oilers.

You would think that there would be some sort of compensation pick given to Anaheim.

- rival22

Exactly...like a RFA. That really sucks. What was the hold out? He didn't like Anaheim or the team offered him low money?
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:23 PM ET
Enlighten me on this one: what did Anaheim get for Justin Schultz being a Richard?
- Orpik44


Not even a coupon for In and Out Burger as far as I know. No one looks good in that whole mess.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 14 @ 4:25 PM ET
Not even a coupon for In and Out Burger as far as I know. No one looks good in that whole mess.
- Emperor Filonius

He got a very good signing in Edmonton. Hate the attitude though.

Schultz, Justin ยป EL $3,775,000 $3,775,000

Wouldn't want somebody like that on my locker room.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:25 PM ET
What kind of rules are that? The guy was drafted and simply didn't want to sign with Anaheim and they get shafted?
- Orpik44


I agree it sucks, but those were the rules in place. I'd like it better if they got a supplemental pick somehow in the next draft....
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 14 @ 4:27 PM ET
I agree it sucks, but those were the rules in place. I'd like it better if they got a supplemental pick somehow in the next draft....
- Emperor Filonius


He took the same amount Nugent-Hopkins and Yakupov, 1st round picks, took.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:32 PM ET
I would consider Orpik "Middle of the Pack"

High would be 1-5...maybe even a top 10 pick.

- Killian


That makes his selection all the better...top pairing physical defender all these years. There were a lot of guys picked ahead of him that were busts...(there isn't a single guy from the 10 picks before him that is an impact player in the league).

Lots of good defenders in that draft though...Volchenkov went after Orpik and Kronwall went later in the round.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 14 @ 4:36 PM ET
Jonathan Drouin, the No. 3-ranked skater on Central Scouting's list, is riding a remarkable 28-game point streak, during which he's produced 26 goals and 64 points.

This guy is going to be good
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 14 @ 4:51 PM ET
penguins need 2-3 under the radar moves.

you will hear for days following the deadline that whomever gets the big names (iginla, etc.) are the clear winners.

the penguins are in a good spot. the offense is right where it needs to be. top 6 looks great. bottom 6 is awful. letang and martin have been great. oprik hasn't been great but is still a top 4. niskanen would be better on the bottom pair but he could work as top 4. love seeing despres play. engelland and eaton have been good, but they will hopefully be watching from the press box come playoff time.

like people said, Iginla would be great, but the asking price will be high plus he would cost the assets that could be hung on to while we trade less valuable assets for more effective returns.

now I think Iginla wont be traded and even if he is, it wont be close to what Flames fans think. Remember with the weeks leading up to the 2008 deadline with Hossa. Atlanta was asking for 2 impact NHL players, a top prospect and a 1st round pick? Now in theory they got close to that but Esposito was nowhere near a top prospect and the 1st round pick was low and Erik and Colby were hardly "impact" players.

People have been talking about Smid. I like the idea. seems like he could fill the void. he gets hits, blocks, and plays around 20-21 minutes a game.

Dallas is another team. I like Morrow. he isn't the player he once was, but he could still add some experience and leadership to the 3rd line.

Also hopeful to get a bigger guy for our 4th line. our 4th line is very undersized and wont intimidate anyone come playoff time.

I have a feeling we will see a Penguins deal before the deadline.
TheRollingPuck
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "All things considered (defense) I'd put a prime Kunitz on par with one way kessel."
Joined: 04.10.2010

Mar 14 @ 4:55 PM ET
I'd rather see Shero go after serviceable players for the top-six and defense, than going all-in for Iginla.
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