Give them Nisk and Bortuzzo.

Orpik/Martin
Letang/Despres
Smid/Eaton
Engo
- AncasterPens

I think that's too much ...I don't know how Smid has been playing lately. He'll get a big raise. I'd take Giordano over him any day.

Isn't he a free agent?
- Orpik44

I think that's too much ...I don't know how Smid has been playing lately. He'll get a big raise. I'd take Giordano over him any day.
- Orpik44

A pick would have to come back with Smid.

Giordano's cap hit would be a killer for the Pens.

A pick would have to come back with Smid.

Giordano's cap hit would be a killer for the Pens.
- AncasterPens

I like Giordano a lot, but his cap is the main reason why I hope we stay away from him. Not that his contract is bad, just that we are already pretty full.

Iginla was a franchise player....IN CALGARY the other two were journeymen, who'd sign with whatever team had the best chance to win a cup. Interesting though..
- Orpik44

Really, journeymen?

Have a look back through their careers and see how they consistently performed at a high level in the playoffs.....

Journeymen indeed.

A pick would have to come back with Smid.

Giordano's cap hit would be a killer for the Pens.
- AncasterPens

Keep in mind Smid will get $4M/year. He's a free agent. I'd rather pay that much to Giordano. +Orpik's contract will end soon.

Btw, I'd trade Engelland + to Edmonton easily. He's from that town and has made a name for himself in this league. i'd rather keep Borts.

I think that's too much ...I don't know how Smid has been playing lately. He'll get a big raise. I'd take Giordano over him any day.
- Orpik44

Giordano makes little sense for the Pens for financial reasons. Have you checked his cap hit? He isn't worth it.

Keep in mind Smid will get $4M/year. He's a free agent. I'd rather pay that much to Giordano. +Orpik's contract will end soon.

Btw, I'd trade Engelland + to Edmonton easily. He's from that town and has made a name for himself in this league. i'd rather keep Borts.
- Orpik44

do you really see Edmonton taking Engelland from Pittsburgh because he is from Edmonton? I don't. He has limited value.

Really, journeymen?

Have a look back through their careers and see how they consistently performed at a high level in the playoffs.....

Journeymen indeed.
- walshy66

Sorry Walshy but by journeyman I said they changed teams with ease, not that they suck and have to get out of town
Iginla was a franchise player his whole carreer and never left his first and only team...too bad Calgary made the wrong choices and wasted his time there

do you really see Edmonton taking Engelland from Pittsburgh because he is from Edmonton? I don't. He has limited value.
- Oneonta Penguin

They did just trade a 4th for Mike Brown. So not because he's from EDM but because they think fighting toughness is obviously important.

do you really see Edmonton taking Engelland from Pittsburgh because he is from Edmonton? I don't. He has limited value.
- Oneonta Penguin

As much or more than Borts? Not because he's from Edmonton but it sure would help since nobody wants to play on that team. NO BIG free agents want to sign there.
They took Fistric (another hommie) from Dallas. Engelland is better or just as good as Corey Potter/Jeff Petry for christ sakes

He doesn't want to be traded with his kids in school there and everything. He has a NMC and IIRC, has said he wouln't waive it.
- AncasterPens

Yeah, he's not going to waive it to go to a crappy cap floor team. If I'm him I stay in Philly, or I get bought out, then I can pick and chose the best spot for me.

Yeah, he's not going to waive it to go to a crappy cap floor team. If I'm him I stay in Philly, or I get bought out, then I can pick and chose the best spot for me.
- rival22

Penguins for $0.75

Whitney, Ryan » $4,000,000
UFA
Schultz, Justin » EL $3,775,000 $3,775,000
RFA
Schultz, Nick » $3,500,000 $3,500,000
UFA
Smid, Ladislav » $2,250,000
UFA
Sutton, Andy » $1,750,000
UFA
Petry, Jeff » $1,750,000 $1,750,000
RFA
Fistric, Mark » $1,475,000
UFA
Peckham, Theo » $1,075,000
RFA
Potter, Corey » $775,000 $775,000
UFA

Man, that core is a mess. Good to know that Fistric and Smid are UFA. Too bad they'll get big raises.

Sorry Walshy but by journeyman I said they changed teams with ease, not that they suck and have to get out of town
Iginla was a franchise player his whole carreer and never left his first and only team...too bad Calgary made the wrong choices and wasted his time there
- Orpik44

Iginla started his career in Dallas and was traded to Calgary.

Iginla started his career in Dallas and was traded to Calgary.
- Ben37

Trying to find inconsistencies Ben? He was only drafted. I don't think he ever played a game for the Stars.

Edit: I think he was involved in the Niewendyk (got it all wrong) deal...

Whitney, Ryan » $4,000,000
UFA
Schultz, Justin » EL $3,775,000 $3,775,000
RFA
Schultz, Nick » $3,500,000 $3,500,000
UFA
Smid, Ladislav » $2,250,000
UFA
Sutton, Andy » $1,750,000
UFA
Petry, Jeff » $1,750,000 $1,750,000
RFA
Fistric, Mark » $1,475,000
UFA
Peckham, Theo » $1,075,000
RFA
Potter, Corey » $775,000 $775,000
UFA

Man, that core is a mess. Good to know that Fistric and Smid are UFA. Too bad they'll get big raises.
- Orpik44

Good thing that they didn't draft any stud defensemen with those high picks they had

Read an article earlier in the day that pointed out the Leafs are paying Darcy Tucker through next season. He's been out of the league for three years!

Some of these GM's...

Read an article earlier in the day that pointed out the Leafs are paying Darcy Tucker through next season. He's been out of the league for three years!

Some of these GM's...
- brianb0422

Almost as bad as Jason Bay and Bobby Bonilla being the Mets highest paid outfielders.

Read an article earlier in the day that pointed out the Leafs are paying Darcy Tucker through next season. He's been out of the league for three years!

Some of these GM's...
- brianb0422

Amazing. Btw, I always loved Darcy Tucker's grit. I always thought Steve Downie would be the next Tucker but he's been pretty quiet now.

Read an article earlier in the day that pointed out the Leafs are paying Darcy Tucker through next season. He's been out of the league for three years!

Some of these GM's...
- brianb0422

Alexei Yashin last played for the Islanders in 2006-07. He is on their payroll for two more seasons at over $2 million.

Almost as bad as Jason Bay and Bobby Bonilla being the Mets highest paid outfielders.
- Deadstar

Did you ever read that whole story with Bonilla's deal? I can't remember the details, but read about it a couple years ago and was speechless.

Amazing. Btw, I always loved Darcy Tucker's grit. I always thought Steve Downie would be the next Tucker but he's been pretty quiet now.
- Orpik44

ACL tears will do that to you

ACL tears will do that to you
- Gunner Staal

Never had any problems with my knees. Only broke my fibula and tore up all ligaments in my left ankle

Good thing that they didn't draft any stud defensemen with those high picks they had

- rival22

Did the Penguins ever draft a defenseman with their high picks? They are on a similar trajectory as to the Pens. They are only in year three of the rebuild. Remember it took the Penguins 5 years from when they drafted Fleury to make the playoffs. It's been three since they drafted Hall.