The problem is that we don't need to bring in Iginla. We don't need a top 6 forward. This team has scored 100 goals in 27 games, 12 more than any other team. Where this team is lacking is on the defensive side. I would love seeing Iginla in a Pens sweater, but it's not needed.
- cap1681

anything that helps us win a cup is needed... iginla fits with bylsma's more time in the o-zone equals less time in the d-zone concept.

What would you say for a Nisk and a pick for Smid and a pick? Since you are the only rational one here most of the time, lol
- AncasterPens

Don't try to be a suck up Ancaster

What people are missing is that bringing a guy like Iginla is not only about more or less goals. It's about leadership and improving a team effectiveness against the best.

Agree with you there... would love a d-man to help out... I would love to see a deal develop regarding smid and hemsky out of edmonton... or maybe sarich out of cal... and by the way... I would feel slightly better about their chances if the had 110 instead of 100.... wouldn't you?
- ChrisMS

Not at all. How many goals is enough? 3.70 goals/game should be more than enough.

Furthermore I don't think we need to add another defensemen to the roster. Just use Despres and let Engelland and Bortuzzo continue to watch from the press box. Eaton has been a really pleasant addition.

What would you say for a Nisk and a pick for Smid and a pick? Since you are the only rational one here most of the time, lol
- AncasterPens

id consider this one. obviously depending on the nature of the picks that could sway it, but the nisk for smid swap is interesting

Not at all. How many goals is enough? 3.70 goals/game should be more than enough.
- Gunner Staal

I agree. The idea of "Who cares if they score 6, we'll score 7" died in the 90's. With the Penguins scoring 3.7 goals/game the last thing they need is more offense. Blueline help/improvement is what is needed.

Furthermore I don't think we need to add another defensemen to the roster. Just use Despres and let Engelland and Bortuzzo continue to watch from the press box. Eaton has been a really pleasant addition.
- Gunner Staal

its sad but until i see it with some regularity, i dont have faith in the coaching staff to ensure that happens. it needs to be letang despres, orpik martin, and eaton nisky night in and night out.

id consider this one. obviously depending on the nature of the picks that could sway it, but the nisk for smid swap is interesting
- stayinthefnnet

I like it because it fills a style of defensemen that the Pens need a bit more of, and gives up a style of player that they Pens have more of on the roster.

What would you say for a Nisk and a pick for Smid and a pick? Since you are the only rational one here most of the time, lol
- AncasterPens

For the Penguins it makes sense, but the Oilers won't do it. Smid is only Oilers defensemen who play defense.

Don't try to be a suck up Ancaster

What people are missing is that bringing a guy like Iginla is not only about more or less goals. It's about leadership and improving a team effectiveness against the best.
- Orpik44

HAHA. I wanted to say that for awhile now. Makes me laugh to see Gunner quote his own post only to have the team come back and win.

I think Eaton is providing a calming presence on the team as well. I wouldn't be against getting Iginla, but based on what Feaster would want, I don't see it as a fit. I would be for getting Morrow for the 3rd line. He can provide the same leadership, if not more than Iginla and won't disrupt any of the top lines chemistry.
Don't need the flashy addition. Just the ones that make sense.

I'd trade a second and a prospect for Iggy.

Not that we lack the scoring but I think his grittiness\toughness and veteran calming influence is something that the Pens have clearly missed the last couple years in the playoffs.

Most will disagree and say we have guys that have been there like Orpik, Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz etc. etc. etc who have the experience, but it isn't the same.

But if you notice the trend after we lost gritty\tough guys like Billy G and Gary Roberts we've been getting bounced early and often. My 2 cents.

Furthermore I don't think we need to add another defensemen to the roster. Just use Despres and let Engelland and Bortuzzo continue to watch from the press box. Eaton has been a really pleasant addition.
- Gunner Staal

It's been a pleasantly odd situation this year on the blue line, we've been EXTREMELY healthy in that area (and on the team in general).

Don't try to be a suck up Ancaster

What people are missing is that bringing a guy like Iginla is not only about more or less goals. It's about leadership and improving a team effectiveness against the best.
- Orpik44

i understand that the team does not need more goals, but that doesnt mean im necessarily opposed to adding iginla. he would bring a lot of positives that dont show up on the score sheet, just like guerin did. however, for the cost it will be much closer to the hossa price than it was for guerin, which scares me off.

I like it because it fills a style of defensemen that the Pens need a bit more of, and gives up a style of player that they Pens have more of on the roster.
- rival22

I could even deal with Nisk and Bortuzzo for Smid and a pick.

I'd trade a second and a prospect for Iggy.

Not that we lack the scoring but I think his grittiness\toughness and veteran calming influence is something that the Pens have clearly missed the last couple years in the playoffs.

Most will disagree and say we have guys that have been there like Orpik, Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz etc. etc. etc who have the experience, but it isn't the same.

But if you notice the trend after we lost gritty\tough guys like Billy G and Gary Roberts we've been getting bounced early and often. My 2 cents.
- Francois Leroux

there is definitely a lot of sound logic here, although i just dont think that offer gets it done. and thats about my limit for him as to what id offer.

I could even deal with Nisk and Bortuzzo for Smid and a pick.
- AncasterPens

if smid is still the hitter i remember then i wouldnt be opposed to this at all

I'd trade a second and a prospect for Iggy.

But if you notice the trend after we lost gritty\tough guys like Billy G and Gary Roberts we've been getting bounced early and often. My 2 cents.
- Francois Leroux

I don't think that is the reason for the early playoff exits. Would put it on more of an inability to play sound defense (last year) and not having a healthy 87 and 71 (two years ago).

This team needs someone to clear the front of the crease on the penalty kill. Not sure that job falls to the forwards.

Does Orpik have a NTC/NMC in his contract. Not saying I want him gone, but he is my darkhorse candidate to be traded in one of those Ray Shero out of nowhere predeadline deals.

i understand that the team does not need more goals, but that doesnt mean im necessarily opposed to adding iginla. he would bring a lot of positives that dont show up on the score sheet, just like guerin did. however, for the cost it will be much closer to the hossa price than it was for guerin, which scares me off.
- stayinthefnnet

I'm not anti Iginla as much as I am anti giving up high quality assets for a rental. A rental player that woudl be for a spot in the lineup (top 6) that really doesn't need an upgrade. If Bennett fell on his face and we were still playing the Tangradi/Jeffrey/Kennedy game there I would be more inclined to get aggressive on that front.

i understand that the team does not need more goals, but that doesnt mean im necessarily opposed to adding iginla. he would bring a lot of positives that dont show up on the score sheet, just like guerin did. however, for the cost it will be much closer to the hossa price than it was for guerin, which scares me off.
- stayinthefnnet

1st+Dumoulin probably would be real close. Can't stand the idea of seeing Iginla on the Bruins. They would be extremely tough.

I would love to see iginla here for our late 1st (the later the better!) and a d-prospect. We are going to hopefully have to move one or two at some point. our d-prospect list... despres, morrow, harrington, pouliot, maata, doumalin, not to mention samuelson who has gotten good reviews by coaches and peers (probably a bottom 6 guy, but still) if even half develop, then thats 3 of 7 top guys. letang makes 4. the other three spots belong to possibly orpik/martin/niskanen if we keep them, or the mark eaton types to round out the bottom pairings. I say go for it. Try to woo iginla to finishing his career here for a decent price
- ChrisMS

You move one of those guys for a younger and proven talent that serves as a longer term solution instead of a rental. I detest the trading of quality young prospects for rentals that aren't really needed. Iggy would be nice, but isn't a need. There isn't a decent price for him. Calgary needs to hit homeruns on deal involving Iggy, JayBo and alike to restock a barren system of talent. It's poor asset management to trade these types os assets to guys that can walk in two months. I'm of the belief that if Iggy gets dealt, he pulls a Keith Tkachuk and high tails it back to Calgary. Fact is we have other needs than Iggy. He really doesn't solve the issue on defense or on the PK for starters.

You move one of those guys for a younger and proven talent that serves as a longer term solution instead of a rental. I detest the trading of quality young prospects for rentals that aren't really needed. Iggy would be nice, but isn't a need. There isn't a decent price for him. Calgary needs to hit homeruns on deal involving Iggy, JayBo and alike to restock a barren system of talent. It's poor asset management to trade these types os assets to guys that can walk in two months. I'm of the belief that if Iggy gets dealt, he pulls a Keith Tkachuk and high tails it back to Calgary.
- Oneonta Penguin

yeah this is exactly why im not willing to dump out a first and morrow and whatever for him. if this was say 2 years ago, then id be all for it, as a three year run with him would have been worth it. but just for one run, to give up a first in a deep draft and what will likely be our upper tier d prospect for a few months worth is just a low return for me. if we can find someone younger that could be part of the core then it is much easier of a pill for me to swallow. there just arent a lot of those guys, much less that are available

1st+Dumoulin probably would be real close. Can't stand the idea of seeing Iginla on the Bruins. They would be extremely tough.
- Orpik44

Boston doesn't have the goods to land Iggy IMO. They are calling around and are rumored to be looking at other players to firm up possible weaknesses. They learned from forking over a first plus for Kaberle.

I'm not anti Iginla as much as I am anti giving up high quality assets for a rental. A rental player that woudl be for a spot in the lineup (top 6) that really doesn't need an upgrade. If Bennett fell on his face and we were still playing the Tangradi/Jeffrey/Kennedy game there I would be more inclined to get aggressive on that front.
- Gunner Staal

A high pick and a prospect would be of equal value for a rental if it gets you a cup. In my humble opinion.

I could see not wanting to risk your future, but you have to take your chances when you can. Especially, this year when we have a healthy lineup. Who knows what could happen next year.

1st+Dumoulin probably would be real close. Can't stand the idea of seeing Iginla on the Bruins. They would be extremely tough.
- Orpik44

maybe a second and it becomes a first if he resigns and dumoulin would be what id want to give up. and i am totally fine if a calgary fan says thats insulting. i understand they need to clearly win this trade, which means i would be leery about being a part of it

A high pick and a prospect would be of equal value for a rental if it gets you a cup. In my humble opinion.

I could see not wanting to risk your future, but you have to take your chances when you can. Especially, this year when we have a healthy lineup. Who knows what could happen next year.
- Francois Leroux

If Iggy was the missing piece, I see your point. He is far from the missing piece for Pittsburgh. He simply isn't a need.