jbo would help this team immensely.

a true 2 way guy that can eat big minutes

would love to have him

the offer depends on whether he agrees to resign with us past 1 year of service.
if he does, im absolutely ok with adding this years first
- hugefemale dog77

Again though with all this talk of grit and heart and maybe it's unwarranted but the guy seems to lack a pulse.

Again though with all this talk of grit and heart and maybe it's unwarranted but the guy seems to lack a pulse.
- Salvo

Gretzky seemed to also, because it was effortless for him.

Ppl rag on Jay for seeming lackadaisical but the truth is he would be awful if in a rush mode always. A personality thing.

You need JBo. I swear, as much as I hate it, his inclusion makes you a perennial contender.

So- not that they would ever trade- what do you offer for JBo?

And, for curiosity sake, for Iginla?
- FLflames34

The other dude said PRV, Tuebert, and a 2nd. I have no hesitation with either Tuebert or a 2nd going. And I understand you need to be willing to ship guys like PRV to get impact players. The fact of the matter though is that not sending any salary back (PRV is an RFA) acts as a 4th asset for JBO. We don't have a lot of dead salary beyond Horcs and that's too much.

EDIT: just saw that's he's only got two years left...thought he had double that. Well in that case I'd up my offer. Harti or Jones, Marincin, 2nd.

The other dude said PRV, Tuebert, and a 2nd. I have no hesitation with either Tuebert or a 2nd going. And I understand you need to be willing to ship guys like PRV to get impact players. The fact of the matter though is that not sending any salary back (PRV is an RFA) acts as a 4th asset for JBO. We don't have a lot of dead salary beyond Horcs and that's too much.

EDIT: just saw that's he's only got two years left...thought he had double that. Well in that case I'd up my offer. Harti or Jones, Marincin, 2nd.
- Morris

I don't want to overvalue JBo. So, as I suggested, would you do:
Klefbom + Whitney (salary, UFA) and a 1st

The other dude said PRV, Tuebert, and a 2nd. I have no hesitation with either Tuebert or a 2nd going. And I understand you need to be willing to ship guys like PRV to get impact players. The fact of the matter though is that not sending any salary back (PRV is an RFA) acts as a 4th asset for JBO. We don't have a lot of dead salary beyond Horcs and that's too much.

EDIT: just saw that's he's only got two years left...thought he had double that. Well in that case I'd up my offer. Harti or Jones, Marincin, 2nd.
- Morris

i think the fact that you guys are HATED division rivals means you'd have to pay more to get him.

it would be like if the leafs really wanted a player from ottawa, guarantee you the sens would ask more from them then another team.

I was hoping Yak

jkjk. Fair proposal. I was thinking Klefbom + Whitney (salary, UFA) and a 1st
- FLflames34

No, inter division trade? Doubt it happens.

I don't want to overvalue JBo. So, as I suggested, would you do:
Klefbom + Whitney (salary, UFA) and a 1st
- FLflames34

2014 first?

I don't want to overvalue JBo. So, as I suggested, would you do:
Klefbom + Whitney (salary, UFA) and a 1st
- FLflames34

i wouldn't do that if i was edmonton.

their top D prospect, and a potential top 5 pick (no offense oiler fans)......seems a bit steep for j-bo....guy is very very good, but is drastically overpaid, and could walk after next year.

I don't want to overvalue JBo. So, as I suggested, would you do:
Klefbom + Whitney (salary, UFA) and a 1st
- FLflames34

Just a note- if I was Calgary GM Uncle Fest, I'd do Gagner for JBo straight up. It would reinvigorate the rivalry for the next 10 yrs, and would be the greatest thing to happen since the Smith goal.

2014 first?
- JShack

Done/

If I am the Oil, I don't give up Gagner under any circumstance.
He is the glue to keep the kids progressing going forward.
hemsky is a better option, even if it costs a high pick to get it done. Or:
Whitney + Hemmer for Hartnell and a 6th

They need D, and Whitney isn't awful.
- FLflames34

no way philly takes that for hartnell. they also need to be getting rid of salary. i would have to think its oilers 1st and mps. tough price, but i think hartnell completely changes this group's dynamics

i wouldn't do that if i was edmonton.

their top D prospect, and a potential top 5 pick (no offense oiler fans)......seems a bit steep for j-bo....guy is very very good, but is drastically overpaid, and could walk after next year.
- sensarmy_11

he is only overpaid by 1mm

i wouldn't do that if i was edmonton.

their top D prospect, and a potential top 5 pick (no offense oiler fans)......seems a bit steep for j-bo....guy is very very good, but is drastically overpaid, and could walk after next year.
- sensarmy_11

He is from Edmonton... I could see him signing long term here. But I agree, that's just too much.

Gretzky seemed to also, because it was effortless for him.

Ppl rag on Jay for seeming lackadaisical but the truth is he would be awful if in a rush mode always. A personality thing.
- FLflames34

Ya fair point - can't always judge the surface. But I'll add that I don't think he has any mean streak. Not that every defender has to. The poor guy has never been in the playoffs so who knows how clutch and competitive he can be in that frame.

To your point, he could that calm stabilizing force in the playoffs.

no way philly takes that for hartnell. they also need to be getting rid of salary. i would have to think its oilers 1st and mps. tough price, but i think hartnell completely changes this group's dynamics
- pbrsimps

I do that.

EDIT: No time to quibble, dither and worry what could be with PRV and an 8th overall pick.

I really think Whitney gets us a mid prospect/2nd, at worst a third. From Pitt or bos at the trade deadline

Resign smid 5 years3.75 per?

Ganger 4 years 4 per?

Hemsky, 2013 2nd and whatever from the Whitney trade - top 4 dman

Hartikinen, gernat, 2014 first for Hartnel down?

2014 lineup:

Hartnel nuge ebs
Hall gags yaks
Mps horcoff jones
Eager smyth brown
Petrell or whoever stands out

New guy Schultz
Smid petry
N Schultz fister

Dubby

That's a 7-9 in the west team if you ask me
- JShack

If those deals get done, i really like that team.

Compliance buyout

After that little trip would you pick landescog first overall?! Naawt a chance

Love the finish by neverscorecoff

Take note while you heal Belanger.

I do that.

EDIT: No time to quibble, dither and worry what could be with PRV and an 8th overall pick.
- Salvo

I think that is a trade both sides benefit from. Don't know what philly fans think of it. would be interesting to get their perspective on it. Maybe they try to keep hartnell and trade some other salary away? I bet they cannot wait until getting rid of briere's salary.
But if say one of your 2nd rounders are needed, who cares. most second rounders dont make the nhl, let alone make an impact. you know what you are getting with hartnell, and he addresses size and grit in the top six.

he is only overpaid by 1mm
- FLflames34

come on now, he hasn't cracked 30 pts since he's been in calgary, and hasn't exactly been stellar in his own zone. he's a good d-man, and perhaps in the right situation he would be a 5.8 million dollar d-man (1 million less then he gets paid), but in his 3 years in calgary, he hasn't been worth that.

given how he's played the last 3 years, AT MOST, i'd offer him 4.5-5 mil

After that little trip would you pick landescog first overall?! Naawt a chance

Love the finish by neverscorecoff
- JShack

come on now, landeskog is EXACTLY the type of player you guys need on your team. the oilers needed RNH based on the fact that he's a center, but i'm not convinced that he's the better player. perhaps a little more offense, but landeskog is a much better overall player.

YES! All started by Yaks and Gagner there - these two.

come on now, he hasn't cracked 30 pts since he's been in calgary, and hasn't exactly been stellar in his own zone. he's a good d-man, and perhaps in the right situation he would be a 5.8 million dollar d-man (1 million less then he gets paid), but in his 3 years in calgary, he hasn't been worth that.

given how he's played the last 3 years, AT MOST, i'd offer him 4.5-5 mil
- sensarmy_11

OK. Trade for Gagner and Flames eat 1mm yr salary.
Innings eater. Worth 5.8

come on now, landeskog is EXACTLY the type of player you guys need on your team. the oilers needed RNH based on the fact that he's a center, but i'm not convinced that he's the better player. perhaps a little more offense, but landeskog is a much better overall player.
- sensarmy_11

I completely disagree with landeskog being a better player. That's just not true at all. Is more physical/physically developed, absolutely. As for talent, creativity, scoring touch(not exactly a good year) he's better. I was being sarcastic when I brought up that trip and fall, as I believe he's a terrific player.