- Reveen

Momentary leaf troll osmosis.

Really though, I have no problem at all with the addition. In fact, as a former GM now for many years he'll have a lot to contribute on players league wide.

Not that it's his role, but I also recall he was Lowe's cap geek go to back then.

Rich,

I read your column for its comedic value. Hey, I'm a long suffering Flyers fan so I appreciate the comedy from a cynical side. Just had to say, today you outdid yourself! I was sitting down to dinner reading your interpretation of Steve Tamblini's view on trades and nearly choked from laughing!! Keep up the good work and Thank You!!!
- Hokeeguy9

^ this
Great blog. Laughed like crazy. Which you are.

Oilers 1st overall (8-12) and a prospect for Hartnell.
- Salvo

Would definitely do that.

Hemsky, prospect and 2nd for top 4 dman.

re-sign Jones, dump Belanger

Hartnell-Nuge-Ebs
Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Paajarvi-Horcoff-Jones
Eager-Petrell-Brown

J. Schultz -Smid
Petry - D acquisition
N. Schultz - Fistric

Dubby

Yeah I agree.

Hartnell-Nuge-Ebs
Hall-Gagner-Yaks

looks good. But it's not like a guy like that is cheap. I'm not sure we can get a deal like that done with picks and prospects. Especially if we're also on the prowl for an impact dman. What can't wait more: d help or forward help?
- Morris

1st and Hemmer gets its done all day. Though I think that's an overpayment, what do you do with Hemsky, make him a 3rd liner?
Perfect trade. And may propel both teams to the playoffs.
Hartnell is in a down year (needs a new scene, not a worse player)

Perhaps reluctantly. It sucks to turf guys that truly want to be here. I don't think Philly does that though anyways. A) I'd bet they can scrounge up a bigger return and b) With schenn and couts in the offing I don't think they need another centre.
- Morris

If I am the Oil, I don't give up Gagner under any circumstance.
He is the glue to keep the kids progressing going forward.
hemsky is a better option, even if it costs a high pick to get it done. Or:
Whitney + Hemmer for Hartnell and a 6th

They need D, and Whitney isn't awful.

1st and Hemmer gets its done all day. Though I think that's an overpayment, what do you do with Hemsky, make him a 3rd liner?
Perfect trade. And may propel both teams to the playoffs.
Hartnell is in a down year (needs a new scene, not a worse player)
- FLflames34

You either take Hemsky and 1st (or Hemsky and a 2nd, or Hemksy and a prospect) and grab a power forward or a top 4 dman. I don't know what would help us more right now.

Would definitely do that.

Hemsky, prospect and 2nd for top 4 dman.

re-sign Jones, dump Belanger

Hartnell-Nuge-Ebs
Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Paajarvi-Horcoff-Jones
Eager-Petrell-Brown

J. Schultz -Smid
Petry - D acquisition
N. Schultz - Fistric

Dubby
- Morris

I dunno, am I off here, I wonder if Philly fans would laugh at that proposal.
I mean, cap strapped, may need some changes up front and that could turn out to be a great pick in a deep draft. Seems at least somewhat sound.

If I am the Oil, I don't give up Gagner under any circumstance.
He is the glue to keep the kids progressing going forward.
hemsky is a better option, even if it costs a high pick to get it done. Or:
Whitney + Hemmer for Hartnell and a 6th

They need D, and Whitney isn't awful.
- FLflames34

Would do that any day of the week. If I woke up tomorrow and this had happened, I'd be ecstatic.

You either take Hemsky and 1st (or Hemsky and a 2nd, or Hemksy and a prospect) and grab a power forward or a top 4 dman. I don't know what would help us more right now.
- Morris

Oil need a power forward much more than a top-4 D. GlenX would be an example, except Hartnell is better.

Edit: Good O with some fire makes up for deficient D, and Whitney would be addition by subtraction.

With Howson's draft record, you see him as an asset as your pro scout?? Scary if you ask me.

Would definitely do that.

Hemsky, prospect and 2nd for top 4 dman.

re-sign Jones, dump Belanger

Hartnell-Nuge-Ebs
Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Paajarvi-Horcoff-Jones
Eager-Petrell-Brown

J. Schultz -Smid
Petry - D acquisition
N. Schultz - Fistric

Dubby
- Morris

done.....you can have gonchar.

done.....you can have gonchar.
- sensarmy_11

Why not cody Ceci?

Why not cody Ceci?
- deks1

gryba.......he's in OUR top 4.

Oil need a power forward much more than a top-4 D. GlenX would be an example, except Hartnell is better.

Edit: Good O with some fire makes up for deficient D, and Whitney would be addition by subtraction.
- FLflames34

It's less about defensive deficiency. We have no dmen who are able to skate the puck up the ice, or spring a forward with a pass. We don't have a big shooter from the point. I think you can blame our stagnant O in part on the fact that no one needs to worry about our d as playmakers.

Sure Petry and Schultz have nice flashes, but none of these guys can win a puck in their own zone AND skate it up the ice. It's kind of one or the other. A true two-way dman would help our O I think as much as Hartnell would.

Again though, truly interested in Hartnell, especially if it didn't take both of our top tradeable assets (Hemmer and the 1st)

I really think Whitney gets us a mid prospect/2nd, at worst a third. From Pitt or bos at the trade deadline

Resign smid 5 years3.75 per?

Ganger 4 years 4 per?

Hemsky, 2013 2nd and whatever from the Whitney trade - top 4 dman

Hartikinen, gernat, 2014 first for Hartnel down?

2014 lineup:

Hartnel nuge ebs
Hall gags yaks
Mps horcoff jones
Eager smyth brown
Petrell or whoever stands out

New guy Schultz
Smid petry
N Schultz fister

Dubby

That's a 7-9 in the west team if you ask me

It's less about defensive deficiency. We have no dmen who are able to skate the puck up the ice, or spring a forward with a pass. We don't have a big shooter from the point. I think you can blame our stagnant O in part on the fact that no one needs to worry about our d as playmakers.

Sure Petry and Schultz have nice flashes, but none of these guys can win a puck in their own zone AND skate it up the ice. It's kind of one or the other. A true two-way dman would help our O I think as much as Hartnell would.

Again though, truly interested in Hartnell, especially if it didn't take both of our top tradeable assets (Hemmer and the 1st)
- Morris

You need JBo. I swear, as much as I hate it, his inclusion makes you a perennial contender.

So- not that they would ever trade- what do you offer for JBo?

And, for curiosity sake, for Iginla?

I really think Whitney gets us a mid prospect/2nd, at worst a third. From Pitt or bos at the trade deadline

Resign smid 5 years3.75 per?

Ganger 4 years 4 per?

Hemsky, 2013 2nd and whatever from the Whitney trade - top 4 dman

Hartikinen, gernat, 2014 first for Hartnel down?

2014 lineup:

Hartnel nuge ebs
Hall gags yaks
Mps horcoff jones
Eager smyth brown
Petrell or whoever stands out

New guy Schultz
Smid petry
N Schultz fister

Dubby

That's a 7-9 in the west team if you ask me
- JShack

not gonna get into a debate of whether or not that's a fair deal for hartnell ( i think it's debatable), but i can't see edmonton getting him for two reasons.

1. he's a 30 goal scorer on a VERY GOOD contract, in his prime years, and a leader on that team

2. he has a NTC, and that guy bleeds philly orange. can't see him waiving it

You need JBo. I swear, as much as I hate it, his inclusion makes you a perennial contender.

So- not that they would ever trade- what do you offer for JBo?

And, for curiosity sake, for Iginla?
- FLflames34

j-bo would definitely help.......but contender......lets not get carried away.

i think calgary would charge extra to send him to a division rival, ESPECIALLY edmonton. if i'm feaster, i'm asking for PRV, teubert, and a 2nd....atleast

not gonna get into a debate of whether or not that's a fair deal for hartnell ( i think it's debatable), but i can't see edmonton getting him for two reasons.

1. he's a 30 goal scorer on a VERY GOOD contract, in his prime years, and a leader on that team

2. he has a NTC, and that guy bleeds philly orange. can't see him waiving it
- sensarmy_11

Disagree. He has had a rough return from injury, is not their core, and could net a D + skill top 6 to supplant a Briere (who is being traded - HAHAHAHA- or bought out)

not gonna get into a debate of whether or not that's a fair deal for hartnell ( i think it's debatable), but i can't see edmonton getting him for two reasons.

1. he's a 30 goal scorer on a VERY GOOD contract, in his prime years, and a leader on that team

2. he has a NTC, and that guy bleeds philly orange. can't see him waiving it
- sensarmy_11

Yeah

Point 1 is the reason he's perfect for the oil. Even if his production is 2/3rds of last season.

Point 2 makes it highly unlikely.

Side note: I believe Whitney, if moved, will thrive and play very well anywhere in the northeast.

j-bo would definitely help.......but contender......lets not get carried away.

i think calgary would charge extra to send him to a division rival, ESPECIALLY edmonton. if i'm feaster, i'm asking for PRV, teubert, and a 2nd....atleast
- sensarmy_11

This amounts to essentially nothing, but I'll say this:
If we somehow had J-Bo, Hartnell, and still had Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, Nuge, Gagner, Schultz, and Smid, and all of that plus Horcoff fit under the cap, we'd very likely be a comfortable playoff team with room for growth.

j-bo would definitely help.......but contender......lets not get carried away.

i think calgary would charge extra to send him to a division rival, ESPECIALLY edmonton. if i'm feaster, i'm asking for PRV, teubert, and a 2nd....atleast
- sensarmy_11

Supplement harti + and I'm so down

j-bo would definitely help.......but contender......lets not get carried away.

i think calgary would charge extra to send him to a division rival, ESPECIALLY edmonton. if i'm feaster, i'm asking for PRV, teubert, and a 2nd....atleast
- sensarmy_11

I was hoping Yak

jkjk. Fair proposal. I was thinking Klefbom + Whitney (salary, UFA) and a 1st

You need JBo. I swear, as much as I hate it, his inclusion makes you a perennial contender.

So- not that they would ever trade- what do you offer for JBo?

And, for curiosity sake, for Iginla?
- FLflames34

jbo would help this team immensely.

a true 2 way guy that can eat big minutes

would love to have him

the offer depends on whether he agrees to resign with us past 1 year of service.
if he does, im absolutely ok with adding this years first