Think you given up alittle too much but i would do it.
Evander Kane is and will be better than anyone on this list for long time. And he is tough.
- Spartiarti

I think that is a real interesting trade proposal because it isn't a slam dunk either way. But, I would tend to go with the sure fire commodity in Kane, and at worst, a high-end second pair defender in Bogosian, than 4 maybes, no matter how highly regarded those maybes might be.

I think it is only a matter of time before Evander Kane is viewed as a Top 20 player in the league, if he isn't already.

That trade would be a tough call though.

YES I DO!!
- kasperrko

I like that. Bold and Beautiful!

Its not just toughness. Its results. Kane produces and plays with an edge. If he just ran around on the ice and played with an edge but put nothing up on the scoresheet, I wouldn't want him. I want guys who play tough, but also show up on the scoresheet. They're hard to come by.
- Jethro09

agreed...which is exactly why i want clarkson/clowe

since 2009 most points:

kane -57 pts
clarkson -46
clowe - 62 (and 57 2nd highest)

This is exactly what I want on our Blue Line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4YVfKowyJk

Boobs and all.

BTW: He seems to have slimmed down quite a bit since he went to the Jets.

agreed...which is exactly why i want clarkson/clowe

since 2009 most points:

kane -57 pts
clarkson -46
clowe - 62 (and 57 2nd highest)
- LetsGoIsles

I don't think Clowe will cost that much...

These trade ideas are ridiculous! Untouchable assets right now would Tavares, Moulson, Strome, Reinhart, Nino, Nelson, and Poulin. Coming up close to them would be Grabner because we have seen that he's a good player, and he is signed to a favorable contract. Same goes for Okposo, although, I think seeing him go at this point wouldn't be too hard to watch. I've never seen so much wasted talent. He has to STOP playing with his head down.

I think the players you look to move first are Nielsen, Bailey, Reasoner (if anyone wants him), Hamonic, and probably even MacDonald. Not really sure if any draft picks are worth holding on to at this point, especially the ones in the coming years.

That being said, the obvious fixes should come from bringing up Nino and Nelson immediately. Get Ullstrom back into the lineup and get Boulton off this team completely. Not for nothing, McDonald, Cizikas, Nino, and Ullstrom were slotting in and out in the beginning of the season in Bridgeport as their 1st line and doing very well together. That could be a combination of our 3rd line. Nelson can come up and be on our 4th line. So, simply by bringing up players we already have, our team has already improved. No trades needed there.

Moving a forward like Nielsen with a combination of picks and prospects (not Strome, Reinhart, etc) should be able to land a helpful forward or defenseman. Right now, If I'm Garth Snow, I'm calling Anaheim and Columbus. Corey Perry has been a name that has been being thrown around often in the last few days. The same goes for Fedor Tyutin and Jack Johnson in Columbus. If we could land Jack Johnson and Corey Perry (assuming he would sign an immediate extension so he isn't a rental), I would think it would be for nothing more than Bailey, Nielsen, prospects, and picks. Even if it made the Islanders have to give up the likes of Okposo in one of those deals, do it in a heartbeat. To be honest, if the Islanders take back Dubinsky (who Columbus has been looking to dump) I think he could fit in with us. And there's no harm in trying, he can always be one of the buyouts over this summer or next, and not haunt us.

That would make us:
Line 1 Moulson Tavares Perry
Line 2 Grabner Dubinsky Boyes
Line 3 McDonald Cizikas Niederreiter
Line 4 Martin Nelson Ullstrom

Def Pair 1 Streit Johnson
Def Pair 2 Visnovsky MacDonald
Def Pair 3 Hickey Finely Carkner Martinek De Haan (Any 2)

That would make us completely competitive this year and help push into the playoffs. Next year, right off the bat, you're adding the likes of Strome and Reinhart. Plus, now that there's more value to this team, maybe we could even attract a few free agents.

The Islanders should be taking risks right now to add players, no matter what the contracts are, because they can use one of the compliance buyouts if it all goes to hell.

These trade ideas are ridiculous! Untouchable assets right now would Tavares, Moulson, Strome, Reinhart, Nino, Nelson, and Poulin. Coming up close to them would be Grabner because we have seen that he's a good player, and he is signed to a favorable contract. Same goes for Okposo, although, I think seeing him go at this point wouldn't be too hard to watch. I've never seen so much wasted talent. He has to STOP playing with his head down.

I think the players you look to move first are Nielsen, Bailey, Reasoner (if anyone wants him), Hamonic, and probably even MacDonald. Not really sure if any draft picks are worth holding on to at this point, especially the ones in the coming years.

That being said, the obvious fixes should come from bringing up Nino and Nelson immediately. Get Ullstrom back into the lineup and get Boulton off this team completely. Not for nothing, McDonald, Cizikas, Nino, and Ullstrom were slotting in and out in the beginning of the season in Bridgeport as their 1st line and doing very well together. That could be a combination of our 3rd line. Nelson can come up and be on our 4th line. So, simply by bringing up players we already have, our team has already improved. No trades needed there.

Moving a forward like Nielsen with a combination of picks and prospects (not Strome, Reinhart, etc) should be able to land a helpful forward or defenseman. Right now, If I'm Garth Snow, I'm calling Anaheim and Columbus. Corey Perry has been a name that has been being thrown around often in the last few days. The same goes for Fedor Tyutin and Jack Johnson in Columbus. If we could land Jack Johnson and Corey Perry (assuming he would sign an immediate extension so he isn't a rental), I would think it would be for nothing more than Bailey, Nielsen, prospects, and picks. Even if it made the Islanders have to give up the likes of Okposo in one of those deals, do it in a heartbeat. To be honest, if the Islanders take back Dubinsky (who Columbus has been looking to dump) I think he could fit in with us. And there's no harm in trying, he can always be one of the buyouts over this summer or next, and not haunt us.

That would make us:
Line 1 Moulson Tavares Perry
Line 2 Grabner Dubinsky Boyes
Line 3 McDonald Cizikas Niederreiter
Line 4 Martin Nelson Ullstrom

Def Pair 1 Streit Johnson
Def Pair 2 Visnovsky MacDonald
Def Pair 3 Hickey Finely Carkner Martinek De Haan (Any 2)

That would make us completely competitive this year and help push into the playoffs. Next year, right off the bat, you're adding the likes of Strome and Reinhart. Plus, now that there's more value to this team, maybe we could even attract a few free agents.

The Islanders should be taking risks right now to add players, no matter what the contracts are, because they can use one of the compliance buyouts if it all goes to hell.
- Save_Us_John

This guy is good

This guy is good
- kasperrko

Someone get Snowjob on the phone RIGHT NOW!!!

These trade ideas are ridiculous! Untouchable assets right now would Tavares, Moulson, Strome, Reinhart, Nino, Nelson, and Poulin. Coming up close to them would be Grabner because we have seen that he's a good player, and he is signed to a favorable contract. Same goes for Okposo, although, I think seeing him go at this point wouldn't be too hard to watch. I've never seen so much wasted talent. He has to STOP playing with his head down.

I think the players you look to move first are Nielsen, Bailey, Reasoner (if anyone wants him), Hamonic, and probably even MacDonald. Not really sure if any draft picks are worth holding on to at this point, especially the ones in the coming years.

That being said, the obvious fixes should come from bringing up Nino and Nelson immediately. Get Ullstrom back into the lineup and get Boulton off this team completely. Not for nothing, McDonald, Cizikas, Nino, and Ullstrom were slotting in and out in the beginning of the season in Bridgeport as their 1st line and doing very well together. That could be a combination of our 3rd line. Nelson can come up and be on our 4th line. So, simply by bringing up players we already have, our team has already improved. No trades needed there.

Moving a forward like Nielsen with a combination of picks and prospects (not Strome, Reinhart, etc) should be able to land a helpful forward or defenseman. Right now, If I'm Garth Snow, I'm calling Anaheim and Columbus. Corey Perry has been a name that has been being thrown around often in the last few days. The same goes for Fedor Tyutin and Jack Johnson in Columbus. If we could land Jack Johnson and Corey Perry (assuming he would sign an immediate extension so he isn't a rental), I would think it would be for nothing more than Bailey, Nielsen, prospects, and picks. Even if it made the Islanders have to give up the likes of Okposo in one of those deals, do it in a heartbeat. To be honest, if the Islanders take back Dubinsky (who Columbus has been looking to dump) I think he could fit in with us. And there's no harm in trying, he can always be one of the buyouts over this summer or next, and not haunt us.

That would make us:
Line 1 Moulson Tavares Perry
Line 2 Grabner Dubinsky Boyes
Line 3 McDonald Cizikas Niederreiter
Line 4 Martin Nelson Ullstrom

Def Pair 1 Streit Johnson
Def Pair 2 Visnovsky MacDonald
Def Pair 3 Hickey Finely Carkner Martinek De Haan (Any 2)

That would make us completely competitive this year and help push into the playoffs. Next year, right off the bat, you're adding the likes of Strome and Reinhart. Plus, now that there's more value to this team, maybe we could even attract a few free agents.

The Islanders should be taking risks right now to add players, no matter what the contracts are, because they can use one of the compliance buyouts if it all goes to hell.
- Save_Us_John

There are no "untouchables" on the Isles or in their system outside of JT and maybe Hamonic (the team's best d-man and a guy you are apparently open to moving). Anybody can be and should be considered to be moved in the right deal.

You're not going to get guys like Corey Perry for a package of players you don't want, i.e. Kyle Okposo, Josh Bailey, Frans Nielsen and some prospects. Nielsen has some trade value, guys like KO and Bailey have absolutely none. Do you really think Anaheim is going to trade a former league MVP like Corey Perry for a combination of players like Nielsen, Bailey, KO, Reasoner? And you're certainly not going to get a Jack Johnson for that same package of crap simply because you'll be willing to take Dubinsky's bad contract as well (which we know Wang won't do)

You have to give to get. You also have to target players that can actually be acquired rather than pending UFA's like Perry. No way Perry foregoes free agency to sign with the Islanders long-term.

There are no "untouchables" on the Isles or in their system outside of JT and maybe Hamonic (the team's best d-man and a guy you are apparently open to moving). Anybody can be and should be considered to be moved in the right deal.

You're not going to get guys like Corey Perry for a package of players you don't want, i.e. Kyle Okposo, Josh Bailey, Frans Nielsen and some prospects. Nielsen has some trade value, guys like KO and Bailey have absolutely none. Do you really think Anaheim is going to trade a former league MVP like Corey Perry for a combination of players like Nielsen, Bailey, KO, Reasoner? And you're certainly not going to get a Jack Johnson for that same package of crap simply because you'll be willing to take Dubinsky's bad contract as well (which we know Wang won't do)

You have to give to get. You also have to target players that can actually be acquired rather than pending UFA's like Perry. No way Perry foregoes free agency to sign with the Islanders long-term.
- Jethro09

Okposo has a ton of value contract wise. Maybe another coach can get him to change his game a little bit and get more out of him. Besides, if Perry is just a rental, why would anyone give up more than 1 or 2 assests.

As for Columbus, if they can take that poop deal they did for Nash, then what we're offering is a dream!

And, did you really just call Hamonic our BEST defensemen?!?! Are you insane?!?!? First of all, that's like being the tallest midget in a room. Our defense is terrible, himself included. He never knows where the puck is, can't move anyone from in front of the net, oh and is a -13, 2nd worst to his partner MacDonald. You obviously do not watch any games.

There are no "untouchables" on the Isles or in their system outside of JT and maybe Hamonic (the team's best d-man and a guy you are apparently open to moving). Anybody can be and should be considered to be moved in the right deal.

You're not going to get guys like Corey Perry for a package of players you don't want, i.e. Kyle Okposo, Josh Bailey, Frans Nielsen and some prospects. Nielsen has some trade value, guys like KO and Bailey have absolutely none. Do you really think Anaheim is going to trade a former league MVP like Corey Perry for a combination of players like Nielsen, Bailey, KO, Reasoner? And you're certainly not going to get a Jack Johnson for that same package of crap simply because you'll be willing to take Dubinsky's bad contract as well (which we know Wang won't do)

You have to give to get. You also have to target players that can actually be acquired rather than pending UFA's like Perry. No way Perry foregoes free agency to sign with the Islanders long-term.
- Jethro09

Agreed Jethro.

Also another area in which he lost me was still having Lubo and Striet on the team next year. I highly doubt we have both and I really believe we have neither.

Lubo hates it on LI and Striet's contract demands will see him traded next month.

Maybe the trades we have been proposing were a little unreasonable. (not by much) But Getting Perry Dubinsky and Johnson for Reason, KO, Bailey and Nielsen is even more outlandish.

There are no "untouchables" on the Isles or in their system outside of JT and maybe Hamonic (the team's best d-man and a guy you are apparently open to moving). Anybody can be and should be considered to be moved in the right deal.

You're not going to get guys like Corey Perry for a package of players you don't want, i.e. Kyle Okposo, Josh Bailey, Frans Nielsen and some prospects. Nielsen has some trade value, guys like KO and Bailey have absolutely none. Do you really think Anaheim is going to trade a former league MVP like Corey Perry for a combination of players like Nielsen, Bailey, KO, Reasoner? And you're certainly not going to get a Jack Johnson for that same package of crap simply because you'll be willing to take Dubinsky's bad contract as well (which we know Wang won't do)

You have to give to get. You also have to target players that can actually be acquired rather than pending UFA's like Perry. No way Perry foregoes free agency to sign with the Islanders long-term.
- Jethro09

Perry is a free agent... wait until the offseason.

The only way you would have to pay for him... if they do a sign and trade.

Okposo has a ton of value contract wise. Maybe another coach can get him to change his game a little bit and get more out of him. Besides, if Perry is just a rental, why would anyone give up more than 1 or 2 assests.

As for Columbus, if they can take that poop deal they did for Nash, then what we're offering is a dream!

And, did you really just call Hamonic our BEST defensemen?!?! Are you insane?!?!? First of all, that's like being the tallest midget in a room. Our defense is terrible, himself included. He never knows where the puck is, can't move anyone from in front of the net, oh and is a -13, 2nd worst to his partner MacDonald. You obviously do not watch any games.
- Save_Us_John

KO sucks and the NHL realizes it. The guy cant say on his feet. He has one good game a month until the team is completely out of the PO hunt and then he pads his stats. Its his pattern.

I believe the GM who GAVE the RANGERS Nash for little to nothing has been FIRED! Correct me if I'm Wrong.

Hamonic is our Best "D" man. That's the problem! And he's having an off year. You Dont dump him for having a bad year. What is he 23 yrs old and playing top pair minutes? He's being asked to do much more than a young "D" man should have to. Remember he to was rushed into the NHL. He's still learning

Perry is a free agent... wait until the offseason.

The only way you would have to pay for him... if they do a sign and trade.
- jimmc7722

True, if we were dealing with a REAL organization that goes out and SIGNS players. I'd be shocked if they sign ANYone in the offseason. I'm waiting to see what happens with the impending Brooklyn move where we don't have to hear about the building being the reason that they can't sign free agents.

Perry is a free agent... wait until the offseason.

The only way you would have to pay for him... if they do a sign and trade.
- jimmc7722

Hello Mr Jimmc, where have you been?

It's been a rousing day so far, here on HB.

There are no "untouchables" on the Isles or in their system outside of JT and maybe Hamonic (the team's best d-man and a guy you are apparently open to moving). Anybody can be and should be considered to be moved in the right deal.

You're not going to get guys like Corey Perry for a package of players you don't want, i.e. Kyle Okposo, Josh Bailey, Frans Nielsen and some prospects. Nielsen has some trade value, guys like KO and Bailey have absolutely none. Do you really think Anaheim is going to trade a former league MVP like Corey Perry for a combination of players like Nielsen, Bailey, KO, Reasoner? And you're certainly not going to get a Jack Johnson for that same package of crap simply because you'll be willing to take Dubinsky's bad contract as well (which we know Wang won't do)

You have to give to get. You also have to target players that can actually be acquired rather than pending UFA's like Perry. No way Perry foregoes free agency to sign with the Islanders long-term.
- Jethro09

No way I put Hamonic ahead of Strome or Reinhart as an 'untouchable'. The kid is good and will get better but I think the ceiling is far higher for Reinhart due to his size and smarts. I also don't agree with the idea that there are no 'untouchables' Naturally you listen to offers if someone is offering Crosby but if you believe in the choices you've made as a GM, guys like Reinhart and Strome are you future.

Agreed Jethro.

Also another area in which he lost me was still having Lubo and Striet on the team next year. I highly doubt we have both and I really believe we have neither.

Lubo hates it on LI and Striet's contract demands will see him traded next month.

Maybe the trades we have been proposing were a little unreasonable. (not by much) But Getting Perry Dubinsky and Johnson for Reason, KO, Bailey and Nielsen is even more outlandish.
- SCLI

Actually, if you read, it would be getting rid of Nielsen, Bailey, Okposo, Reasoner (if anyone wanted him), Hamonic, Nilsson, and some draft picks thrown in. If Perry is a rental, you're not giving Anaheim much in the player sense. Sending guys like Okposo, Bailey, Hamonic, and Nilsson with picks could sure as hell get Tyutin and Johnson. Supposedly the Penguins are close to getting Johnson for 2 prospects and a pick. We would be offering better than that.

And where the hell do you people get your information from?! Visnovsky may not want to be here, but he must be here for the rest of the season at least because he family just moved back with him this week. And as for Streit, he went to the Islanders about extending his contract for the rest of his career. Who said his demands were high?! Supposedly, they're close to extending Nabokov and Streit. Those aren't even from rumor sources like this crap. That's straight from reporters that actually speak to Snow.

Hello Mr Jimmc, where have you been?

It's been a rousing day so far, here on HB.
- SCLI

After that last loss... I couldn't come on here. Too upset...

I would have probably gotten banned.

I had to turn off the game, and walk away.

True, if we were dealing with a REAL organization that goes out and SIGNS players. I'd be shocked if they sign ANYone in the offseason. I'm waiting to see what happens with the impending Brooklyn move where we don't have to hear about the building being the reason that they can't sign free agents.
- Mancalledsting

I hope they do move this offseason.

I think the building and knowing where they were going to play for their entire contracts matters alot.

I wouldn't sign in Long Island for 5 years, if they could possibly relocate to Kansas City after 2 years.

You have to think about these players and their families.

You don't want to uproot your wife and kids if you don't have too.

Hey KEaner we might have just got our new show. Forget LEtsgoIsles and Captain this save us john guy is gold!!

Perry is a free agent... wait until the offseason.

The only way you would have to pay for him... if they do a sign and trade.
- jimmc7722

They will never get Perry...he's going to want more money than JT and the Islanders will not pay anyone more than JT...I think his salary is $6 million next year...

I hope they do move this offseason.

I think the building and knowing where they were going to play for their entire contracts matters alot.

I wouldn't sign in Long Island for 5 years, if they could possibly relocate to Kansas City after 2 years.

You have to think about these players and their families.

You don't want to uproot your wife and kids if you don't have too.
- jimmc7722

THEY'RE MOVING TO BROOKLYN IN 2 YEARS IF NOT SOONER!!! IT'S ALREADY DONE!!! WHY IS THERE ANY MENTION OF KANSAS CITY?!?! STUPID!!!

No way I put Hamonic ahead of Strome or Reinhart as an 'untouchable'. The kid is good and will get better but I think the ceiling is far higher for Reinhart due to his size and smarts. I also don't agree with the idea that there are no 'untouchables' Naturally you listen to offers if someone is offering Crosby but if you believe in the choices you've made as a GM, guys like Reinhart and Strome are you future.
- keaner17

I hope both Strome and Reinhart are playing for the Isles next year.

I think Strome would be fantastic on JT's wing.

I would trade Nino... but I don't think he is worth much right now.

Whiney little kid...

These trade ideas are ridiculous! Untouchable assets right now would Tavares, Moulson, Strome, Reinhart, Nino, Nelson, and Poulin. Coming up close to them would be Grabner because we have seen that he's a good player, and he is signed to a favorable contract. Same goes for Okposo, although, I think seeing him go at this point wouldn't be too hard to watch. I've never seen so much wasted talent. He has to STOP playing with his head down.

I think the players you look to move first are Nielsen, Bailey, Reasoner (if anyone wants him), Hamonic, and probably even MacDonald. Not really sure if any draft picks are worth holding on to at this point, especially the ones in the coming years.

That being said, the obvious fixes should come from bringing up Nino and Nelson immediately. Get Ullstrom back into the lineup and get Boulton off this team completely. Not for nothing, McDonald, Cizikas, Nino, and Ullstrom were slotting in and out in the beginning of the season in Bridgeport as their 1st line and doing very well together. That could be a combination of our 3rd line. Nelson can come up and be on our 4th line. So, simply by bringing up players we already have, our team has already improved. No trades needed there.

Moving a forward like Nielsen with a combination of picks and prospects (not Strome, Reinhart, etc) should be able to land a helpful forward or defenseman. Right now, If I'm Garth Snow, I'm calling Anaheim and Columbus. Corey Perry has been a name that has been being thrown around often in the last few days. The same goes for Fedor Tyutin and Jack Johnson in Columbus. If we could land Jack Johnson and Corey Perry (assuming he would sign an immediate extension so he isn't a rental), I would think it would be for nothing more than Bailey, Nielsen, prospects, and picks. Even if it made the Islanders have to give up the likes of Okposo in one of those deals, do it in a heartbeat. To be honest, if the Islanders take back Dubinsky (who Columbus has been looking to dump) I think he could fit in with us. And there's no harm in trying, he can always be one of the buyouts over this summer or next, and not haunt us.

That would make us:
Line 1 Moulson Tavares Perry
Line 2 Grabner Dubinsky Boyes
Line 3 McDonald Cizikas Niederreiter
Line 4 Martin Nelson Ullstrom

Def Pair 1 Streit Johnson
Def Pair 2 Visnovsky MacDonald
Def Pair 3 Hickey Finely Carkner Martinek De Haan (Any 2)

That would make us completely competitive this year and help push into the playoffs. Next year, right off the bat, you're adding the likes of Strome and Reinhart. Plus, now that there's more value to this team, maybe we could even attract a few free agents.

The Islanders should be taking risks right now to add players, no matter what the contracts are, because they can use one of the compliance buyouts if it all goes to hell.
- Save_Us_John

I need to take off my "rose colored" glasses to read this post...

I hope they do move this offseason.

I think the building and knowing where they were going to play for their entire contracts matters alot.

I wouldn't sign in Long Island for 5 years, if they could possibly relocate to Kansas City after 2 years.

You have to think about these players and their families.

You don't want to uproot your wife and kids if you don't have too.
- jimmc7722

Moving this offseason could happen. I think a buyout of the lease is VERY possible. But, again, does that translate into spending money/signing guys and finally advancing this "rebuild"???

I am not holding my breath there.