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clarkey
Location: Pembroke Pines, FL
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 27 @ 2:46 PM ET
That's our old ice-girl line-up, we have a new bunch that are also quite nice, very little clothing needed here in South FLA,
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:46 PM ET
Guy seems to be cursed lately.
- al3535


He's the new whipping boy in Vancouver now.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
Exactly! Especially when he was producing too.
- Nucker101

Not to compare the 2 players, but Boyes was put in the Ruff doghouse last year and was put on the 4th and off the PP and you could tell he could care less after that. He ended up with 20 pts in 60 games. He already has 12 or 13 pts this year playing on the top line in NY. Can't do that to guys with skill.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
haven't followed the Nucks lately but why the hell is Kassian not on the first line anymore he seems to have great chemistry and was producing when with the twins
- shill-17


Ask AV for us if you see him.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
Meh, it's been almost a year off for him. He isn't going to shake off the rust on the 4th line.
- Nucker101


Put him on the 3rd for a few games, or give him some shifts on the wing, where he won't have as much physical abuse/responsibility.

You can't punish some players for poor play, and not punish others. How is Kassian supposed to get comfortable on the 4th line? I'm sick of the preferential treatment.
al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 27 @ 2:48 PM ET
He's the new whipping boy in Vancouver now.
- Nucker101



Is he as funny as Lou is? I hope so. Strombone is gold, Jerry, GOLD!!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:49 PM ET
Maybe it's a matter of AV just not liking him. You'd hope a pro coach would be above that kind of thing, but I can't think of any other reason for his downward spiral to the 4th line.

Now that he's playing scared, he's not nearly as effective, and AV can say "I told you so..."

I don't (frank)ing know. It's really pissing me off, though. Put the kid in a position to succeed, and leave him there long enough to get a decent evaluation, rather than demoting him a few shifts into a game.

- Fosco

Yeah, it seems like once AV makes his mind up about a player, it takes a lot for him to change his opinion.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
DP
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
Not to compare the 2 players, but Boyes was put in the Ruff doghouse last year and was put on the 4th and off the PP and you could tell he could care less after that. He ended up with 20 pts in 60 games. He already has 12 or 13 pts this year playing on the top line in NY. Can't do that to guys with skill.
- sbroads24


Yup, I totally agree. It depends on the player's personality too. For some it lights a fire under their ass and others seem to lose interest.
Scruffton
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
In general I think the Canucks need to give Kassian way more ice time than he got.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:52 PM ET
Put him on the 3rd for a few games, or give him some shifts on the wing, where he won't have as much physical abuse/responsibility.

You can't punish some players for poor play, and not punish others. How is Kassian supposed to get comfortable on the 4th line? I'm sick of the preferential treatment.

- Fosco


Only problem is that the current roster only has 4 natural centers, I'd like to see AV use him more favorably against weaker lines with more offensive zone starts to get him going 5 on 5.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 2:53 PM ET
Yup, I totally agree. It depends on the player's personality too. For some it lights a fire under their ass and others seem to lose interest.
- Nucker101

It has to be confusing to Kassian. He's probably wondering what kind of player AV wants him to be. He's now on the 4th desperately trying not to be out of position or take a dumb penalty so he can get back up the lineup, so it looks like he's just floating now
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:58 PM ET
It has to be confusing to Kassian. He's probably wondering what kind of player AV wants him to be. He's now on the 4th desperately trying not to be out of position or take a dumb penalty so he can get back up the lineup, so it looks like he's just floating now
- sbroads24


Yeah, it totally seems that way right now. It's safe to say that he's never going to be much of a two-way player, most power forwards aren't known for their two-way game since they play an aggressive, offensive style so he looks pretty ineffective right now.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:00 PM ET
Yeah, it totally seems that way right now. It's safe to say that he's never going to be much of a two-way player, most power forwards aren't known for their two-way game since they play an aggressive, offensive style so he looks pretty ineffective right now.
- Nucker101

Should be fore checking like crazy. Play simple. He has some serious skill for a big dude. I hated that trade...... at first
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 27 @ 3:08 PM ET
DP
- Fosco


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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 27 @ 3:10 PM ET
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- Marwood


double post......or penetration....in some situations, but post in this one.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 27 @ 3:18 PM ET
double post......or penetration....in some situations, but post in this one.
- Fosco




I was going to say that, but I thought it was too early in the morning for an adult film reference.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 27 @ 3:20 PM ET


I was going to say that, but I thought it was too early in the morning for an adult film reference.

- 1970vintage


Is it ever too early?
TheMike12
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.20.2007

Feb 27 @ 3:24 PM ET
kessler has a busted foot??? thats no good
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Feb 27 @ 3:30 PM ET
Hot babes - nice!

Canucks needs some team leadership. I'm pretty sure they aren't getting it from Sedin.

What has Brouwer said now?
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Feb 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
(From the left) "I'll take a #3, #5 and #6 to go! Extra sauce on everything!"



This is some quality work, Esplen!

- As_I_See_It

#6 all the way.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
CODY HODGSON

20 8 9 17

ZACK KASSIAN

19 5 3 8


- al3535


If Kassian played on the first line with quality players like Vanek and Pominvile like Hodgson. His points weren't far off.... His 5 goals came in something like the first 7 games when he was, playing on the top line. Also Hitting and Fighting are 2 things Hodgson doesn't do that he does that you are not referencing. He is also 1 year behind in development.

Besides all those points... Yes Cody is having a good season for a bad team. Didn't Matt Frickkken Stajan put up numbers on a top line on a bad team as well????? lol
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Feb 27 @ 3:34 PM ET
That doesn't answer my question. I like Kassian. What happened?
- sbroads24

AV happened.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Feb 27 @ 3:36 PM ET
It's not always like this, but...


- 1970vintage

Did he tap out there?
moots
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mundelein, IL
Joined: 12.02.2009

Feb 27 @ 3:42 PM ET
[quote=As_I_See_It](From the left) "I'll take a #3, #5 and #6 to go! Extra sauce on everything!"



I'll take #4! And #5 can ride my face to Chicago!
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