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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 2:31 PM ET
Floating.
- DrChristianTroy

Kid needs to be with skill players. He can finish and is a playmaker. I bet you guys were suprised at how good a passer he is.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:31 PM ET
Same thing happened in Buffalo. Has he been running around hitting and causing havoc on the 4th? Or just floating?
- sbroads24

Floating for the most part, seems to have lost his energy since the demotion.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:32 PM ET
12 Calgary 7-7-4
13 Edmonton 7-7-4

- 1970vintage


sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 2:33 PM ET
Floating for the most part, seems to have lost his energy since the demotion.
- Nucker101

Seems like he might have an issue with that sort of thing. He disappeared after a few games. He got some decent minutes and played well when we had a bunch of injuries, but when we were semi healthy and he was put on the 4th he was a completely different player
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:33 PM ET
Kid needs to be with skill players. He can finish and is a playmaker. I bet you guys were suprised at how good a passer he is.
- sbroads24


Yeah, he's a pretty underrated playmaker. Too bad AV didn't give him a few games with Kesler.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:34 PM ET
Yeah, he's a pretty underrated playmaker. Too bad AV didn't give him a few games with Kesler.
- Nucker101


That might have been worse
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 2:35 PM ET
Yeah, he's a pretty underrated playmaker. Too bad AV didn't give him a few games with Kesler.
- Nucker101

You can't take someone off the 1st and put him on the 4th and expect him to be happy
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:35 PM ET
fixed.
- VanFan79


He's no Zack Kassian that's for sure.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 27 @ 2:36 PM ET
Kassian 7 min What happened?
- sbroads24


It's BS. He was one of the better players the first couple weeks, then all it took was one minor mistake for him to get demoted to the 4th line.

Now he's playing scared, like the puck is a grenade, since one more mistake means the press box.

AV is totally ruining this player. It's a bloody crime...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:36 PM ET
Seems like he might have an issue with that sort of thing. He disappeared after a few games. He got some decent minutes and played well when we had a bunch of injuries, but when we were semi healthy and he was put on the 4th he was a completely different player
- sbroads24


Yup, when he's playing hard he's a pretty dominant player. Most young power forwards have consistency issues, once he matures he should be a really good player.
al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 27 @ 2:36 PM ET


Reported!






- Nucker101

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:36 PM ET
That might have been worse
- 1970vintage


I think they would be pretty good together.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:37 PM ET
It's not always like this, but...


- 1970vintage

Claim him Calgary...
al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 27 @ 2:37 PM ET

- Nucker101



Wait until tonight

7-8-1
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:37 PM ET
You can't take someone off the 1st and put him on the 4th and expect him to be happy
- sbroads24


Exactly! Especially when he was producing too.
al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 27 @ 2:38 PM ET
Yeah, he's a pretty underrated playmaker. Too bad AV didn't give him a few games with Kesler.
- Nucker101



Didn't see the game. What happened to Kesler?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:39 PM ET
It's BS. He was one of the better players the first couple weeks, then all it took was one minor mistake for him to get demoted to the 4th line.

Now he's playing scared, like the puck is a grenade, since one more mistake means the press box.

AV is totally ruining this player. It's a bloody crime...

- Fosco


Agreed. Hopefully he'll get a shot on the top 6 and PP soon.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:40 PM ET
Wait until tonight

7-8-1

- al3535



I wonder if Tamby's downfall will be his lack of balls to make any significant moves. Edmonton needs some size up front that can play, I like that Finnish kid but they need a couple of more guys in their top 9.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:41 PM ET
Didn't see the game. What happened to Kesler?
- al3535


Didn't see the injury either, maybe a blocked shot?
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 27 @ 2:43 PM ET
Didn't see the game. What happened to Kesler?
- al3535


Was skating well at times, but created nothing but weak perimeter shots, and his passing was poor.

Took a couple hits.

Overall, wasn't much of a factor.

But, of course, he's one of AVs golden boys, so there will be no consequences to his poor play...
al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 27 @ 2:43 PM ET
Didn't see the injury either, maybe a blocked shot?
- Nucker101



Guy seems to be cursed lately.
shill-17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Richmond Hill, ON
Joined: 11.09.2011

Feb 27 @ 2:44 PM ET
haven't followed the Nucks lately but why the hell is Kassian not on the first line anymore he seems to have great chemistry and was producing when with the twins
al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 27 @ 2:45 PM ET
I wonder if Tamby's downfall will be his lack of balls to make any significant moves. Edmonton needs some size up front that can play, I like that Finnish kid but they need a couple of more guys in their top 9.
- Nucker101



No kidding gotta do a CH for ZK trade sooner or later. And hope it doesn't bite us in the ass to hard. I'd like number #29 from SJ preferably.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 2:45 PM ET
Was skating well at times, but created nothing but weak perimeter shots, and his passing was poor.

Took a couple hits.

Overall, wasn't much of a factor.

But, of course, he's one of AVs golden boys, so there will be no consequences to his poor play...

- Fosco



Meh, it's been almost a year off for him. He isn't going to shake off the rust on the 4th line.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 27 @ 2:46 PM ET
Agreed. Hopefully he'll get a shot on the top 6 and PP soon.
- Nucker101


Maybe it's a matter of AV just not liking him. You'd hope a pro coach would be above that kind of thing, but I can't think of any other reason for his downward spiral to the 4th line.

Now that he's playing scared, he's not nearly as effective, and AV can say "I told you so..."

I don't (frank)ing know. It's really pissing me off, though. Put the kid in a position to succeed, and leave him there long enough to get a decent evaluation, rather than demoting him a few shifts into a game.
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