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cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Feb 19 @ 8:05 AM ET
Asham's wearing the Ranger jersey so he gets my approval. I think it was only Alex, maybe one other dude here who literally said he hates Asham, basically cause he wore other jerseys of Rangers rivals.
- B2B76

My problem with Asham is his history, he's not to far off from Cooke and I hate having a guy with that reputation on the team, we've had 1 suspension in 4 years, that's a clean team
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Feb 19 @ 9:19 AM ET
My problem with Asham is his history, he's not to far off from Cooke and I hate having a guy with that reputation on the team, we've had 1 suspension in 4 years, that's a clean team
- cranford93

That cant be right Vin. Prust was suspended for the elbow in the Jersey series last Spring. Although he was barely a Ranger, Deveux was waxed for a hit on soneone in Fla last yr too.

And Asham is nowhere close to Cooke. The hit on Schenn last yr was reckless & he was dealt with appropriately, but other than that aside from fighting majors, dont recall Asham being dirty.
AlexanderScharf
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.24.2007

Feb 19 @ 9:58 AM ET
That cant be right Vin. Prust was suspended for the elbow in the Jersey series last Spring. Although he was barely a Ranger, Deveux was waxed for a hit on soneone in Fla last yr too.

And Asham is nowhere close to Cooke. The hit on Schenn last yr was reckless & he was dealt with appropriately, but other than that aside from fighting majors, dont recall Asham being dirty.

- B2B76

Hagelin got a game last season, and if you want to count off-ice suspensions, Avery got nailed for the sloppy seconds comment.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 10:00 AM ET
Asham's wearing the Ranger jersey so he gets my approval. I think it was only Alex, maybe one other dude here who literally said he hates Asham, basically cause he wore other jerseys of Rangers rivals.
- B2B76

I'll never like asham. He's not at the level for me of rooting against him in a fight. However my opinion will never waiver, I'm definitely not a fan of his. Only because of his actions after this fight, not the actual fight itself.

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:09 AM ET
I'll never like asham. He's not at the level for me of rooting against him in a fight. However my opinion will never waiver, I'm definitely not a fan of his. Only because of his actions after this fight, not the actual fight itself.


- tomburton99


I didn't like that either, but sometimes good people do stupid things. Indeed, he seemed to realize that pretty quickly by banging his stick against the boards when Beagle got taken of the ice. I imagine that the adrenaline can run pretty high after an NHL fight, and maybe the player is not thining as they should be.

You won't find many ex-teammates that have a bad opinion of Arron Asham, and I trust that. He's an NHL tough guy for christ's sake. You won't find many that are angels.
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:11 AM ET


Holy crap the officiating in this league sucks!
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Feb 19 @ 10:11 AM ET
I didn't like that either, but sometimes good people do stupid things. Indeed, he seemed to realize that pretty quickly by banging his stick against the boards when Beagle got taken of the ice. I imagine that the adrenaline can run pretty high after an NHL fight, and maybe the player is not thining as they should be.

You won't find many ex-teammates that have a bad opinion of Arron Asham, and I trust that. He's an NHL tough guy for christ's sake. You won't find many that are angels.

- Pete V

And that also was a carry over fight I believe from a previous incident where Beagle started poop w a Pen. So Asham was basically saying with that gesture, it was literally put to bed.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:14 AM ET


Holy crap the officiating in this league sucks!

- cranford93


That honestly may be the worst call I have ever seen.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 10:15 AM ET


Holy crap the officiating in this league sucks!

- cranford93

I saw that yesterday. Refs said the linesman thought Nashville played the puck into their own zone. Thus, negating the offsides.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:16 AM ET
And that also was a carry over fight I believe from a previous incident where Beagle started poop w a Pen. So Asham was basically saying with that gesture, it was literally put to bed.
- B2B76


I wonder sometimes how Mark Messier and Gordie Howe would be viewed under today's standards.

On the Habs game, tonight, the Habs are now 10-4-1 and second in the conference. I try not look at the standings too much yet, but the Rangers just need to keep compiling points, because despite a 7-2-1 run in their last 10, they still 8th in the conference.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 10:17 AM ET
I didn't like that either, but sometimes good people do stupid things. Indeed, he seemed to realize that pretty quickly by banging his stick against the boards when Beagle got taken of the ice. I imagine that the adrenaline can run pretty high after an NHL fight, and maybe the player is not thining as they should be.

You won't find many ex-teammates that have a bad opinion of Arron Asham, and I trust that. He's an NHL tough guy for christ's sake. You won't find many that are angels.

- Pete V

I don't hate him, just saying I'm not a fan of his. It's whatever, he's here now, hopefully he can help the Rangers.
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:21 AM ET
I wonder sometimes how Mark Messier and Gordie Howe would be viewed under today's standards.

On the Habs game, tonight, the Habs are now 10-4-1 and second in the conference. I try not look at the standings too much yet, but the Rangers just need to keep compiling points, because despite a 7-2-1 run in their last 10, they still 8th in the conference.

- Pete V

I think they'll separate themselves from the pack, Ottawa got 2 points from an overrated bunch yesterday but without Karlsson and Cowen their back line is scary thin.

I want to see Prust take some dumb penalties tonight, I am one of a few people holding a grudge, he's a sellout
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:25 AM ET
I think they'll separate themselves from the pack, Ottawa got 2 points from an overrated bunch yesterday but without Karlsson and Cowen their back line is scary thin.

I want to see Prust take some dumb penalties tonight, I am one of a few people holding a grudge, he's a sellout

- cranford93


I understand that when the Rangers were offering 3 years for 6 million bucks, and the Habs were offering 4 years for 10 million why he would take the money. But, he took the money, and he jumped ship, so life moves on without him. He's a Hab now, so I hope Asham kicks his ass.
Downeaster
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:42 AM ET
He fits the 4th line role better then Kreider, smart move. Don't get why he wasn't called up originally over Kreider
- TPC


S-L-O-W.

Watched a bunch of his fights on you-tube also. Meh.

He has nothing on Kreider and I gotta think Kreider's ankle is bothering him. If not, then Tort's is screwing around too much with him.

That said, Kreider played for the Whale when he got sent down so his ankle should theoretically be OK. I hope he is not playing hurt.

I can't see playing a plodding Mashinter against a speedy Canadien team.

Just sayin.....
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Feb 19 @ 10:49 AM ET
I understand that when the Rangers were offering 3 years for 6 million bucks, and the Habs were offering 4 years for 10 million why he would take the money. But, he took the money, and he jumped ship, so life moves on without him. He's a Hab now, so I hope Asham kicks his ass.
- Pete V

Prust took the $$$, any of would have too, guy will never have another opportunity to cash in for that kind of dough, like Avery wen he went to Dallas. But like with Avery, once he's gone, he's gone. Again, its all about the laundry. Whoever's wearing Ranger blue gets my applause.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 10:51 AM ET
S-L-O-W.

Watched a bunch of his fights on you-tube also. Meh.

He has nothing on Kreider and I gotta think Kreider's ankle is bothering him. If not, then Tort's is screwing around too much with him.

That said, Kreider played for the Whale when he got sent down so his ankle should theoretically be OK. I hope he is not playing hurt.

I can't see playing a plodding Mashinter against a speedy Canadien team.

Just sayin.....

- Downeaster

Mashinter confirmed by NYDN Rangers beat writer. Kreider and Bickel are scratched.
Downeaster
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
Mashinter confirmed by NYDN Rangers beat writer. Kreider and Bickel are scratched.
- tomburton99


He will be lucky to get 3 minutes of ice time......
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
Mashinter confirmed by NYDN Rangers beat writer. Kreider and Bickel are scratched.
- tomburton99


I don't think they are handling Kreider well right now. They send him to Hartford to play in three weekend games. Then they call him back-up when there are questions about Nash. Then when Powe gets hurt they call up Mash, and sit Kreider. They are screwing with this kid too much, and I hope its don't killing him psychologically.

That being said, Kreider needs to play better. When a player that has that type of speed, and goes through long stretches of invisibility on the ice, that is a problem. Hagelin should be the model for Kreider. Even when he isn't scoring, he still uses his speed to do other things on the ice. I don't want to see him turn into Erik Christensen -- i.e. a game or two when he shows serious skills, surrounded by too many games when you don't notice him.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 10:57 AM ET
He will be lucky to get 3 minutes of ice time......
- Downeaster

He'd be lucky to get that. Other than Prust, the Habs don't have guy willing to drop the gloves. I agree with you that he's is a waste of a roster spot.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 11:01 AM ET
I don't think they are handling Kreider well right now. They send him to Hartford to play in three weekend games. Then they call him back-up when there are questions about Nash. Then when Powe gets hurt they call up Mash, and sit Kreider. They are screwing with this kid too much, and I hope its don't killing him psychologically.

That being said, Kreider needs to play better. When a player that has that type of speed, and goes through long stretches of invisibility on the ice, that is a problem. Hagelin should be the model for Kreider. Even when he isn't scoring, he still uses his speed to do other things on the ice. I don't want to see him turn into Erik Christensen -- i.e. a game or two when he shows serious skills, surrounded by too many games when you don't notice him.

- Pete V

This situation is similar to how the Isles handle Niederreiter. They screwed around with his development and the kid has been right since. Torts is doing the same thing with Kreider.
Mactruck
New York Rangers
Location: Morris County, NJ
Joined: 06.03.2012

Feb 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
Mashinter confirmed by NYDN Rangers beat writer. Kreider and Bickel are scratched.
- tomburton99

Kreider must be like WTF!
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 11:11 AM ET
Kreider must be like WTF!
- Mactruck

Hopefully they just send him down and let him stay down their. At this point getting away from the bright lights of NYC may be good for him.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 19 @ 11:17 AM ET
Hopefully they just send him down and let him stay down their. At this point getting away from the bright lights of NYC may be good for him.
- tomburton99


Honestly, it's not as if he tore up in Hartford during the lockout. There is something not right about Kreider this year, and hopefully he can recover from what is shaping up to be a subpar first complete season in the pros.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 19 @ 11:18 AM ET
This situation is similar to how the Isles handle Niederreiter. They screwed around with his development and the kid has been right since. Torts is doing the same thing with Kreider.
- tomburton99


Yea this screams mis-development... I'm getting worried.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 19 @ 11:24 AM ET
Yea this screams mis-development... I'm getting worried.
- mrhattrick27


Yeh, but you can't totally blame development for being a -7 and only scoring 5 goals in almost a 1/2 for the Whale. Those numbers are alarming.
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