In other words, worse?
- prock

His production has gotten marginally worse (by .025 p/game) now that he's getting less ice time and pp time on a deeper team.

Good thing D aren't evaluated solely on their offensive prowess...

If his numbers have gotten worse across the board in your mind then you are clearly just trolling when you say Blacker is as good or better. Nobody is that stupid. Its not possible
- Bieksa#3

i never said across the board. You're pointing to +/- getting better going to a top team. thats ridiculous.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...?thread_id=104043&page=37

i never said across the board. You're pointing to +/- getting better going to a top team. thats ridiculous.
- prock

I swear I remember you using his +/- while on Sudbury to claim he's not good defensively.

You are so pathetic

His production has gotten marginally worse (by .025 p/game) now that he's getting less ice time and pp time on a deeper team.

Good thing D aren't evaluated solely on their offensive prowess...
- Fosco

Nope they are evaluated by idiots like prockster. Guys who rave about a prospect who cant even get a sniff over a couple seasons with one of the worst defensive units in the game.
He wants to look at offensive numbers in the CHL and compare. Yet has never watched them to see how good they are other then points. If so Cannautton is a franchise d. Sadly both Canautton and Blacker will never be any more then life time ahlers. Corrado will be an NHL d man. Just a matter of 5-6 or 3-4

Nope they are evaluated by idiots like prockster. Guys who rave about a prospect who cant even get a sniff over a couple seasons with one of the worst defensive units in the game.
He wants to look at offensive numbers in the CHL and compare. Yet has never watched them to see how good they are other then points. If so Cannautton is a franchise d. Sadly both Canautton and Blacker will never be any more then life time ahlers. Corrado will be an NHL d man. Just a matter of 5-6 or 3-4
- Bieksa#3

You don't need to watch prospects when your actual intent is just to troll...

i never said across the board. You're pointing to +/- getting better going to a top team. thats ridiculous.
- prock

You said his numbers got worse. A drop .025 in points but a increase from -3 to +51(projected over the same 41 games his -3 was over) would be considered a drastic improvement by every scout in the game

You said his numbers got worse. A drop .025 in points but a increase from -3 to +51(projected over the same 41 games his -3 was over) would be considered a drastic improvement by every scout in the game
- Bieksa#3

Every scout in the game would ignore an improvement in +/- going from a bad team to a good one.

Every scout in the game would ignore an improvement in +/- going from a bad team to a good one.
- prock

yes a mdest one. As I said +85 over a projected full season is amazing. What was Blacker +/- in his final season? The attack were top 10 all season in the CHL, so if its just because its a good team then was blacker +100?
Just checked, a whopping +17
-22 the season before wasn't Corrado a finalist for the d man of the yr in his 2nd last season? Hmmm
And Blacker is a amazing -3 this season while playing for a top team

yes a mdest one. As I said +85 over a projected full season is amazing. What was Blacker +/- in his final season? The attack were top 10 all season in the CHL, so if its just because its a good team then was blacker +100?
Just checked, a whopping +17
-22 the season before wasn't Corrado a finalist for the d man of the yr in his 2nd last season? Hmmm
And Blacker is a amazing -3 this season while playing for a top team
- Bieksa#3

So was Blacker.

So was Blacker.
- prock

Theres no reason to argue with you
All you do is look at 1 part of a comment instead of look at the big picture

Doesn't anyone else get tired of that butthole ?

Doesn't anyone else get tired of that butthole ?
- VANTEL

This is a hockeybuzz website
We are supposed to waste time getting pissed at stupid trolls who dont know sh!t about hockey

So was Blacker.
- prock

With a whoppin -22 good for him
And +17 on probably a top 5 CHL team. While Corrado is +85 over the same period with a good yet weaker team then Blacker had. I thought Plus/minus was only because your team is good? Why is Blacker insanely worse on a better team?

This is a hockeybuzz website
We are supposed to waste time getting pissed at stupid trolls who dont know sh!t about hockey
- RF_4eva

I don't even read his comments anymore

Theres no reason to argue with you
All you do is look at 1 part of a comment instead of look at the big picture
- RF_4eva

What, that Blacker is a pretty close comparable? Yes, I can see that picture. You guys can't.

Doesn't anyone else get tired of that butthole ?
- VANTEL

A butthole is too good. Serves one purpose for most of us. 2 for Prock-iggy and the boys. P rock serves no purpose

With a whoppin -22 good for him
And +17 on probably a top 5 CHL team. While Corrado is +85 over the same period with a good yet weaker team then Blacker had. I thought Plus/minus was only because your team is good? Why is Blacker insanely worse on a better team?
- Bieksa#3

why do you bother referencing +/-? It's a terrible stat.

why do you bother referencing +/-? It's a terrible stat.
- prock

Why are you dodging the question? Answer it. Why is blacker +/- so terribly worse then corrados in Kitchener?

Why are you dodging the question? Answer it. Why is blacker +/- so terribly worse then corrados in Kitchener?
- Bieksa#3

Blacker was the number 1 D. He was their go to guy. He didn't have a guy beside him that is better, a guy that made Team Canada, to score. Corrado had Ryan Murphy beside him. That helps Corrado's +/-. It also helps that Kitchener's best player, Leivo, is scoring at a great clip.

Blacker was the number 1 D. He was their go to guy. He didn't have a guy beside him that is better, a guy that made Team Canada, to score. Corrado had Ryan Murphy beside him. That helps Corrado's +/-. It also helps that Kitchener's best player, Leivo, is scoring at a great clip.
- prock

the Attack still had a stronger team so again, why is Blackers +/- so much worse. They had 3 guys that were invited to the Canadian camp.
Why don't you compare Blacker to Cannautton. Their Jr numbers are almost identical. Most would agree both have been weak in the ahl as well.
Take a look the numbers are very close

Who is in net for Vancouver tonight ?

Who is in net for Vancouver tonight ?
- mrpaulish

the Attack still had a stronger team so again, why is Blackers +/- so much worse. They had 3 guys that were invited to the Canadian camp.
Why don't you compare Blacker to Cannautton. Their Jr numbers are almost identical. Most would agree both have been weak in the ahl as well.
Take a look the numbers are very close
- Bieksa#3

Was Cannauton a finalist for dman of the year like Blacker? Didn't think so.

Was Cannauton a finalist for dman of the year like Blacker? Didn't think so.
- prock

One was in the W one was in the O. Canautton I think Cannautton was a All star in the AHL. Blacker wasn't. In fact blacker has been rather pathetic offensively and defensively in the A. Dispite playing for a very good team. Cannautton has been solid on the Offense and weak on D.