Ottawa trading Neil to Chicago for a bottom six forward makes zero sense.

A) After moving Carkner and Konopka out last summer, Ottawa is arguably lacking toughness. Ottawa depends on Neil and Zack Smith for that.

B) Ottawa is loaded with young players and bottom six forwards, they don't need another one.

C) Ottawa's need are a top six scoring winger, a Spezza replacement, and a Karlsson replacement.

D) Neil is beloved by fans and the community in Ottawa. If he's traded it would have to be a huge advantage for Ottawa.
- rhume55

C. Ottawa is going to rebuild starting right now. Cant replace Karlsson . Cant replace Speza. Frolik or Stalberg would be top 6 on Ottawa.

These guys are pretty good:

Kunitz Crosby Dupuis
Neal Malkin Boychuk

And these guys:

Pyatt Richards Gaborik
Hagelin Stepan Nash

And the top 6 of the last team in the UC (which of the four teams mentioned, IMO, might be the most talented top 6)
- John Jaeckel

And while we are getting crazy....

There is a certain RW who resides in cowbody country in Alberta that is going to hit the market. You can NOT allow Mr. Iginla to land in the west. He will be a difference maker.

Before we start the "we have 2 RWs" debate, I'm pretty sure the Hawks would find a spot for this guy in the top 6.

If you are SERIOUS about your 1 goal campaign, Iginla is the chip to go after. Calgary isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The Toews connection may work ,but you are going to have to outbid Pittsburgh to get him.

Saad and Leddy would/should be on the table. The window to win with this group isn't getting any longer. Hossa is going to be a dominant 3rd line winger in 2 years. You also have remained relatively healthy this year. All things should be a GO in the board room to make the ballsy move to put you over the top.

C. Ottawa is going to rebuild starting right now. Cant replace Karlsson . Cant replace Speza. Frolik or Stalberg would be top 6 on Ottawa.
- mrpaulish

Not so sure about Frolik, Stalberg likely yes.

These guys are pretty good:

Kunitz Crosby Dupuis
Neal Malkin Boychuk

And these guys:

Pyatt Richards Gaborik
Hagelin Stepan Nash

And the top 6 of the last team in the UC (which of the four teams mentioned, IMO, might be the most talented top 6)
- John Jaeckel

I get what you say and when you get down to the top few teams it is splitting hairs. Toews, Kane, Hossa, and Sharp going that route, I like our top 4..evaluating the 5 and 6 guys its a push.

My point was this oscillating needs list from grit and toughness to top 6...When clearly this trade is about adding the bottom end type guys.

But you no doubt raise a great debate.

And while we are getting crazy....

There is a certain RW who resides in cowbody country in Alberta that is going to hit the market. You can NOT allow Mr. Iginla to land in the west. He will be a difference maker.

Before we start the "we have 2 RWs" debate, I'm pretty sure the Hawks would find a spot for this guy in the top 6.

If you are SERIOUS about your 1 goal campaign, Iginla is the chip to go after. Calgary isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The Toews connection may work ,but you are going to have to outbid Pittsburgh to get him.

Saad and Leddy would/should be on the table. The window to win with this group isn't getting any longer. Hossa is going to be a dominant 3rd line winger in 2 years. You also have remained relatively healthy this year. All things should be a GO in the board room to make the ballsy move to put you over the top.
- SteveRain

From your lips to John McDonough's (or Scotty Bowman's) ears.

You could move Hossa (or Kane actually) easily to the left side to accommodate Iggy. Price, as you say, would be high.

kudos on the buttmunch though. haven't heard that in a while.
- eburgio

hey, what can I say ... I'm almost as old as dirt....

These guys are pretty good:

Kunitz Crosby Dupuis
Neal Malkin Boychuk

And these guys:

Pyatt Richards Gaborik
Hagelin Stepan Nash

And the top 6 of the last team in the UC (which of the four teams mentioned, IMO, might be the most talented top 6)
- John Jaeckel

not to split hairs here JJ, but Pyatt isnt in the top 6 in NY, Callahan is

And while we are getting crazy....

There is a certain RW who resides in cowbody country in Alberta that is going to hit the market. You can NOT allow Mr. Iginla to land in the west. He will be a difference maker.

Before we start the "we have 2 RWs" debate, I'm pretty sure the Hawks would find a spot for this guy in the top 6.

If you are SERIOUS about your 1 goal campaign, Iginla is the chip to go after. Calgary isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The Toews connection may work ,but you are going to have to outbid Pittsburgh to get him.

Saad and Leddy would/should be on the table. The window to win with this group isn't getting any longer. Hossa is going to be a dominant 3rd line winger in 2 years. You also have remained relatively healthy this year. All things should be a GO in the board room to make the ballsy move to put you over the top.
- SteveRain

I could barely read through all that.

I have watched Calgary 3 or 4 times, while Iginla brings you some flashes, he is clearly on the decline. To pay Saad or Leddy...you are high.

Let someone else take him. Unless you get him for cheap, which will not happen. No way I am a buyer there.

And I would trade Stalberg TODAY for Neil. Frolik won't get it done. You are already thin at center so Kruger and Shaw have value. However, with Saad's emergence, Stalberg really doesn't fit and will command MORE then 1.9 million (Neil's salary next year) next year.

This is a ballsy move that should be made. Carcillo, Mayers, Bickell, Neil...now you start to have the size, grit, and players who don't harm you and can play down below.

10-0-3 is all well and nice, and eveyrone should be excited. However, lets hope our management team has an eye on the playoffs and how this team stacks up in a 7 game series.

From your lips to John McDonough's (or Scotty Bowman's) ears.

You could move Hossa (or Kane actually) easily to the left side to accommodate Iggy. Price, as you say, would be high.
- John Jaeckel

Hell, if you have an Iginla type guy then maybe you think about putting Kane at 2C between two studs like Sharp/Iginla.

Mostly saying this because the Bolland experiment at 2c clearly isn't working. Love his game, but he isn't proving that he is more than a 3c.

From your lips to John McDonough's (or Scotty Bowman's) ears.

You could move Hossa (or Kane actually) easily to the left side to accommodate Iggy. Price, as you say, would be high.
- John Jaeckel

I think Iginla, puts you over the hump. And moving Saad and maybe Stanton or Leddy would get you a cup. Saad can be replaced, he is a good player, but he doesnt have a special something that is very difficult to find. He is a smaller, maybe tougher Stalberg. Just anxious to hear what Calgary would want in return.

Hell, if you have an Iginla type guy then maybe you think about putting Kane at 2C between two studs like Sharp/Iginla.

Mostly saying this because the Bolland experiment at 2c clearly isn't working. Love his game, but he isn't proving that he is more than a 3c.
- HawkFan27

DO NOT TOUCH moving Kane anywhere with the way he is playing. He is doing everything his paycheck says he should be doing right now. Would be boneheaded to move him back to center

dont take a current Hart candidate and change his position

Not so sure about Frolik, Stalberg likely yes.
- John Jaeckel

Agree.
Stalberg is top 6 IMO. Frolik, although he hustles, is a waste of roster spot.

I could barely read through all that.

I have watched Calgary 3 or 4 times, while Iginla brings you some flashes, he is clearly on the decline. To pay Saad or Leddy...you are high.

Let someone else take him. Unless you get him for cheap, which will not happen. No way I am a buyer there.
- TrueGrit

OK, cheif. You keep on ripping everyone from your Flrodia recliner, and watch when Iggy lands in Pittsburgh and terrorizes the EAST with Crosby feeding him saucers all day long.

I forgot, you are the LONE expert on this board.

That is a legitimate trade that should be considered, and a price you are going to have to pay to acquire him.

What has Leddy and Saad accomplished so far in their NHL careers? Remind me again?

The object is to win cups....NOT pimp prospects all day. I'd keep Leddy over Saad if it came to it.

From your lips to John McDonough's (or Scotty Bowman's) ears.

You could move Hossa (or Kane actually) easily to the left side to accommodate Iggy. Price, as you say, would be high.
- John Jaeckel

Last night, Iggy beat the crap out of the only NHL player ever from France. It's the only time he has shown a pulse this year. Now if you got him for the balance of this year instead of Neil I could start to think about giving something good in return.

I think Iginla, puts you over the hump. And moving Saad and maybe Stanton or Leddy would get you a cup. Saad can be replaced, he is a good player, but he doesnt have a special something that is very difficult to find. He is a smaller, maybe tougher Stalberg. Just anxious to hear what Calgary would want in return.
- nickmo2699

They would do that in a minute...too funny.

From your lips to John McDonough's (or Scotty Bowman's) ears.

You could move Hossa (or Kane actually) easily to the left side to accommodate Iggy. Price, as you say, would be high.
- John Jaeckel

Where there is smoke, there is fire...Iginla's name is out there. For him to leave Calgary he is going to want a LEGIT shot at a cup. Hawks and Penguins can offer that.

And yes, I know he has a NMC. Plus, he can showcase he still has enough left to get a decent deal when he hits the market July 1st.

Agree.
Stalberg is top 6 IMO. Frolik, although he hustles, is a waste of roster spot.
- moylander

Frolik has been great this season....especially w Kruger on the penalty kill. I don't think he has been a waste of a roster space this season....not saying I wouldn't trade him for the right piece...but I personally think what has made the Hawks so great this season has been the emergence and the depth of their 3rd & 4th lines...

Would it be a bad idea to move Patrick Sharp to the third line, and put up Stahlberg with Bolland/Kane? ...Am I crazy to think that maybe the Hawks should start to look for offers for Patrick Sharp? Don't get me wrong...I have loved him as a Hawk....but with the salary cap going down next season, it seems somebody is going to have to go? Maybe I am a fool...but I could see a nice return for #10...

GO HAWKS!

not to split hairs here JJ, but Pyatt isnt in the top 6 in NY, Callahan is

- FourFeathers773

Only underscores my actual point. Pyatt's been skating there the last couple of games.

Last night, Iggy beat the crap out of the only NHL player ever from France. It's the only time he has shown a pulse this year. Now if you got him for the balance of this year instead of Neil I could start to think about giving something good in return.
- RickJ

Huet?

Only underscores my actual point. Pyatt's been skating there the last couple of games.
- John Jaeckel

Doesnt NY have a fire Sale coming up soon?

Last night, Iggy beat the crap out of the only NHL player ever from France. It's the only time he has shown a pulse this year. Now if you got him for the balance of this year instead of Neil I could start to think about giving something good in return.
- RickJ

I watched the game and Iggy did not beat the crap out of anyone. He looks like an old man out there. I mean no disrespect, cuz the guy is a class act, but pay that ransom for a guy who will be a UFA....

He is 35, if he promised to sign a 2 year deal for like 2.5 after you brought him over, then yes, otherwise...cap hell.

And there are no guarantees on getting over any hump.

I think Iginla, puts you over the hump. And moving Saad and maybe Stanton or Leddy would get you a cup. Saad can be replaced, he is a good player, but he doesnt have a special something that is very difficult to find. He is a smaller, maybe tougher Stalberg. Just anxious to hear what Calgary would want in return.
- nickmo2699

Agreed. We also saw last year in the playoffs that when the top 4 are held in check (hossa, kane, sharp, Toews) this team had problems scoring. Adding Iginla only helps to remedy that.

Its going to take a top notch NHL young stud, a high pick, and probably a mid-high prospect for Feaster to do it. I don't think Iginla's is a wiener like Nash was, to put Feaster in a position to move him or else, and lets not also forget that Iginla will be a UFA 7/1 so does Feaster risk losing him for nothing in a few months?

Who's to say Iginla wouldn't resign here? A 2-3 year deal, with a chance to win cups is what a veteran in his twilight is looking for.

This is a move, not likely, that shows a firm commitment to winning. Any fan who cries over Saad being dealt for iginla....

Now if you want a trade you can work with, send Bolland over for O'reilly. That makes some sense. Not sure the mechanics of that, but I would consider that and maybe throw in a little something extra.

I watched the game and Iggy did not beat the crap out of anyone. He looks like an old man out there. I mean no disrespect, cuz the guy is a class act, but pay that ransom for a guy who will be a UFA....

He is 35, if he promised to sign a 2 year deal for like 2.5 after you brought him over, then yes, otherwise...cap hell.

And there are no guarantees on getting over any hump.
- TrueGrit

And there are no guarantees any prospect or young player on the Hawks will ever be much more than they are or what their hype is.