Matty Ellis must've handed off the blackmail pictures to Leopold before he left

How bad does this guy have to be to take a seat?

I didn't get to see the game due to a curling tourney I was in
- adambuffalo

best reason ever to miss a game...

Could Ryan Whitney or Ryan anything help us? Scratched in Edmonton tonight.

Matty Ellis must've handed off the blackmail pictures to Leopold before he left

How bad does this guy have to be to take a seat?
- twistedwrister9

coaches who are feeling the heat often lean on the guys they have trusted in the past (hecht, leo, ellis, etc.)- even if it is plainly obvious to everyone else that said players are no longer reliable.

think gailey and fred jackson...

Hopefully the game is more exciting than the State of the Union address

Could Ryan Whitney or Ryan anything help us? Scratched in Edmonton tonight.
- Da_Cashman

We are helpless under Lindy Ruff-Hecht

coaches who are feeling the heat often lean on the guys they have trusted in the past (hecht, leo, ellis, etc.)- even if it is plainly obvious to everyone else that said players are no longer reliable.

think gailey and fred jackson...
- battelmt

But when is it leo's turn to sit i mean its been his turn to play so far...........Ugh im so glad no more of that never was coach

But when is it leo's turn to sit
- hubie

when he gets winded!!!

coaches who are feeling the heat often lean on the guys they have trusted in the past (hecht, leo, ellis, etc.)- even if it is plainly obvious to everyone else that said players are no longer reliable.

think gailey and fred jackson...
- battelmt

why would anyone have ever trusted/leaned on Ellis?

when he gets winded!!!
- battelmt

Thats Ruffs Guy....lol Yuck

why would anyone have ever trusted/leaned on Ellis?
- IndianaSabresFan

Wait.. I thought at least 15 teams put in a waiver request for him.

false. we love hockey so much we'll go even when it's bad, but it does frustrate us quite a bit because we care that much.
- FIREonICE

False, the home opener after the 04' lockout was at 50% capacity. So we're te next 3 home games. I had free tickes to each.

Ridiculous. A city with high taxes and low average income has people lining up to attend sporting events because they are afraid the team might leave.

WNY'ers and Southern Onterrorists are flocking to the arena because if they don't, a guy who has his toilets cleaned with $100 bills is going to pack the team up and leave.

Ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as saying the franchise won't change things as long as fans keep selling out games. Ludicrous.
- keptupl8

That's leaves only one other reason. We're idiots. It's not like we're great hockey fans. The USA games for the world junior had maybe 4,500 us fans. For an event that was fairly priced, advertised like (frank) on radio, tv, Internet, billboard and in the newspaper. Where we're the fans?

That's leaves only one other reason. We're idiots. It's not like we're great hockey fans. The USA games for the world junior had maybe 4,500 us fans. For an event that was fairly priced, advertised like (frank) on radio, tv, Internet, billboard and in the newspaper. Where we're the fans?
- Buffalo--Sabres

Everyone sold their tickets to Canadiens

That's leaves only one other reason. We're idiots. It's not like we're great hockey fans. The USA games for the world junior had maybe 4,500 us fans. For an event that was fairly priced, advertised like (frank) on radio, tv, Internet, billboard and in the newspaper. Where we're the fans?
- Buffalo--Sabres

Do you still have the original list of reasons that you crossed off all of the other possibilities? Maybe one got scratched out by mistake...

That's leaves only one other reason. We're idiots. It's not like we're great hockey fans. The USA games for the world junior had maybe 4,500 us fans. For an event that was fairly priced, advertised like (frank) on radio, tv, Internet, billboard and in the newspaper. Where we're the fans?
- Buffalo--Sabres

100% correct on the were not great hockey fans. Its not like people went to say a college game can definetly say no american has gone 5 mins over the border for a Niagra jr game.

Everyone sold their tickets to Canadiens
- hubie

How did I get tickets. I didn't order ahead of time? Why where ther 10,000 empty seats? Oh thats because teenage girls couldn't shout pommonville marry me so they didn't care.

100% correct on the were not great hockey fans. Its not like people went to say a college game can definetly say no american has gone 5 mins over the border for a Niagra jr game.
- hubie

Yep. Rochester played a game here October 28th. Didn't sell a single 300 level seat. The highest priced tickets were $25. And there was no other hockey being played.

Everyone sold their tickets to Canadiens
- hubie

Of course they did. Canadians watch that tourney like Americans watch college football bowl games. Canadians have been watching that tournament for a long time. Most of the players play in the CHL... which stands for Canadian Hockey League. It's made up of the Quebec Major Jrs, the Ontario Hockey League and the Western (referring to Western Canada) Hockey League.

Most Americans don't get the tournament on TV. Canadians do. Most American households who do get the games don't watch them. They're watching college football, and NFL, and NBA, and a few are watching the NHL. But they could care less about the world jrs.

I watch them. I love them. I went to 18 games during that tournament. But I wasn't surprised that the building wasn't packed for every game. It is what it is. The IIHF was thrilled with the attendance.

Yep. Rochester played a game here October 28th. Didn't sell a single 300 level seat. The highest priced tickets were $25. And there was no other hockey being played.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Rochester also sold out the building in December. True story.

Could Ryan Whitney or Ryan anything help us? Scratched in Edmonton tonight.
- Da_Cashman

Ryan Whitney is a bum. There's a reason Pitts moved him in the 1st place and Anaheim shortly thereafter.

Of course they did. Canadians watch that tourney like Americans watch college football bowl games. Canadians have been watching that tournament for a long time. Most of the players play in the CHL... which stands for Canadian Hockey League. It's made up of the Quebec Major Jrs, the Ontario Hockey League and the Western (referring to Western Canada) Hockey League.

Most Americans don't get the tournament on TV. Canadians do. Most American households who do get the games don't watch them. They're watching college football, and NFL, and NBA, and a few are watching the NHL. But they could care less about the world jrs.

I watch them. I love them. I went to 18 games during that tournament. But I wasn't surprised that the building wasn't packed for every game. It is what it is. The IIHF was thrilled with the attendance.
- keptupl8

you are 100% correct I love Juniors you can catch a good game most nights. I love being able to see the next big stars. Sadly, looks like this year the big ones one of which will be in our org.

I see 2 big reasons that contribute to the quiet in our arena.

1. The building itself. It's designed to be a multi-use facility. Like several other buildings, the sound won't echo as much as the older styled barns. The Aud was very loud. You could feel the building shake when things got really crazy. I've only had a few moments like that at Crossroads/HSBC/FNC and that includes the '99 cup run and all of those crazy come back games in the mid-2000's.

2. The team. The team has the fans trained to not expect much. It hasn't always been this way. The Drury and Briere teams won a lot of games late because they never gave up. This current team has also had some comebacks, but they are different. Now they float for 52 minutes and then turn it on in the last 8.

This team hasn't protected leads well over the past few years. They get into that slow it all down mode and everyone keeps backing up. Instead of trying to win, they try not to lose. And that's what losers do.

Miller getting hit by Lucic didn't create an issue, it simply magnified it. The core of this team over the past few seasons is like kleenex; soft and disposable. Guys got wrecked into the boards or took a cheap shot and no one reacted, or the wrong guys react.

This team over the last 4-5 seasons has trained the fans that they can't hold a lead, they won't stick up for each other, they don't play physical, and if they have an extra gear, they won't use it until the dying seconds. We're conditioned to have low expectations.

/rant

So what'd I miss.... any more brain busting trades.... how about sweet waiver claims... how about rocket launchers attached to stick?

So what'd I miss.... any more brain busting trades.... how about sweet waiver claims... how about rocket launchers attached to stick?
- JVince11

Mike Weber is the best skater in the NHL