Holding someone accountable means they won't do the same thing again. Do you honestly think Brown would even think for a second before he does that again? He will do the same check 10 times out of 10. And then beat up whoever tries to hold him accountable lol
- Allstarzz

In the definition you just made up for it, I guess it does. Again, I'm pretty sure I can't have a serious discussion with you, I sincerely apologize for lacking the discretion to avoid this convo in the first place.

Take care all.

Wait i thought people wanted to trade Kadri???
- LEAFSfan28191

Been supporting him ever since he was drafted. Wilson did not give him a fair shot at all. All he did is play really well with the marlies. Even now I am not satisfied because Carlysle isn't playing him enough IMO. With the London Knights I saw what a gifted forward he is. In his last year there he went up against Hall and Seguin for OHL player of the year honours. Should not trade him.

And it's not what weber does. Weber held him accountable for the hit. Brown won, for sure, but he should. As you say, that's what he does.

So he definitely paid the price, with interest even. But he was held accountable for the hit.

Clear?
- nfph

That little pr!ck Kaletta, got what was coming to him. That little puke needs to be concussed for about the next 5 years for all of his antics on the ice. If there wasn't an instigator penalty, he'd be on the list for one of the first sent packing. Good riddance to that goof!

That little pr!ck Kaletta, got what was coming to him. That little puke needs to be concussed for about the next 5 years for all of his antics on the ice. If there wasn't an instigator penalty, he'd be on the list for one of the first sent packing. Good riddance to that goof!
- PrinceLH

This.

In the definition you just made up for it, I guess it does. Again, I'm pretty sure I can't have a serious discussion with you, I sincerely apologize for lacking the discretion to avoid this convo in the first place.

Take care all.
- nfph

It is a serious conversation. Maybe I should put it in other words. Weber tries to hold Brown accountable, but it clearly didn't work. If Weber won that fight, then what you are saying is correct. Good day.

Been supporting him ever since he was drafted. Wilson did not give him a fair shot at all. All he did is play really well with the marlies. Even now I am not satisfied because Carlysle isn't playing him enough IMO. With the London Knights I saw what a gifted forward he is. In his last year there he went up against Hall and Seguin for OHL player of the year honours. Should not trade him.
- Allstarzz

Well i can finally agree with someone. Ive been defending this kid since 09. Everyone saying we should trade him f that. He has the most skill on the team by a mile. I love his game and the kid can really play. I give Burke props for not rushing him because him playing for eakins is allot better than playing for ronnie.

It is a serious conversation. Maybe I should put it in other words. Weber tries to hold Brown accountable, but it clearly didn't work. If Weber won that fight, then what you are saying is correct. Good day.
- Allstarzz

I think he is talking about a "non" fighter stepping up to the plate to defend a teammate against a professional disher EI: BROWN.

I'd like to reference this to DION not fighting carkner after a questionable hit... By dion.

Wait i thought people wanted to trade Kadri???
- LEAFSfan28191

I never did.

Phil Kessel is made for Toronto, reason being that he doesn't give a poop about what people say.

He doesn't read the papers, watch tv, or listen to the radio.

I love his production as a Leaf.

Fwiw, it was less about winning the fight, rather forcing the issue. The Sabres are still smarting from the lack of sticking up for Miller/each other last year. He made him pay the price, yes. He paid it, alright, but I believe that's the point you're missing.

Anyhow, not looking for a pissing contest.
- nfph

I get what you are saying, I agree. Just showing up like that means a lot. Just laughing at the quote, your blogger makes it sou d like he handled brown.

And it's not what weber does. Weber held him accountable for the hit. Brown won, for sure, but he should. As you say, that's what he does.

So he definitely paid the price, with interest even. But he was held accountable for the hit.

Clear?
- nfph

I think there's a difference between stepping up to prove you aren't a push-over and holding somebody "accountable".

Brown got to waste Kaleta, then got to waste Weber. That's not going to change his mind next time. Might even motivate him more.

But I will give props to Weber for jumping in and taking a stand. That's not going to deter a guy like Orr or Brown, but it might deter a smaller, more marginal fighter in the future.

Wait i thought people wanted to trade Kadri???
- LEAFSfan28191

Not everyone.

I get what you are saying, I agree. Just showing up like that means a lot. Just laughing at the quote, your blogger makes it sou d like he handled brown.
- burn

Well, my blogger is a piece of work.

And allstar, apologies if I was too harsh. I was saying weber did the right thing. I doubt it would deter brown going forward, anymore than someone jumping Kaleta would make him think twice - because that's not how either of those guys operates. But he did make him fight for the hit, be accountable and man up. Brown, again, definitely did that, which you would expect given his role.

Man Ovechkin sucks Caps should by him out

Man Ovechkin sucks Caps should by him out
- LEAFSfan28191

Apparently he's playing with Joey Crabb now? Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

Washington really blew it. That team a few years ago that was walking all over the eastern conference has been completely gutted. If I was a Capitals fan I'd be furious that they weren't able to capitalize on that team.

Phil Kessel is made for Toronto, reason being that he doesn't give a poop about what people say.

He doesn't read the papers, watch tv, or listen to the radio.

I love his production as a Leaf.
- 13LEAFS01

I take it you're a fan of Elliotte Friedman?

Kessel is made for Toronto if you believe that mediocrity is just fine.

What Toronto really needs is a guy that a team can not only be built around but who can bring the Cup back to where it belongs. Kessel isn't that guy.

Well, my blogger is a piece of work.

And allstar, apologies if I was too harsh. I was saying weber did the right thing. I doubt it would deter brown going forward, anymore than someone jumping Kaleta would make him think twice - because that's not how either of those guys operates. But he did make him fight for the hit, be accountable and man up. Brown, again, definitely did that, which you would expect given his role.
- nfph

Agreed. And brown is not supposidly out due to said fight.

Phil Kessel is made for Toronto, reason being that he doesn't give a poop about what people say.

He doesn't read the papers, watch tv, or listen to the radio.

I love his production as a Leaf.
- 13LEAFS01

Not gonna lie id trade him if we could. It has nothing to do with his production because he has been fantastic and is worth every penny he gets from his contract. To me he's just not a guy you try and build a team around. The leafs are a re building team i dont care what anyone sais we are. We should and need to play the kids. And what you could get for Kessel this year would be pretty nice. Plus i see kessel walking after next year haha.

Has the shine wore off pegula?

I take it you're a fan of Elliotte Friedman?

Kessel is made for Toronto if you believe that mediocrity is just fine.

What Toronto really needs is a guy that a team can not only be built around but who can bring the Cup back to where it belongs. Kessel isn't that guy.
- Two_For_Truth

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Not gonna lie id trade him if we could. It has nothing to do with his production because he has been fantastic and is worth every penny he gets from his contract. To me he's just not a guy you try and build a team around. The leafs are a re building team i dont care what anyone sais we are. We should and need to play the kids. And what you could get for Kessel this year would be pretty nice. Plus i see kessel walking after next year haha.
- LEAFSfan28191

This is our biggest fear.

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- As_I_See_It

Lets make it a threesome! I agree as well.

I take it you're a fan of Elliotte Friedman?

Kessel is made for Toronto if you believe that mediocrity is just fine.

What Toronto really needs is a guy that a team can not only be built around but who can bring the Cup back to where it belongs. Kessel isn't that guy.
- Two_For_Truth

This is what drives me crazy about Leafs fans. Why can't they have both? Do you think that you're going to trade Kessel for this mythical guy that they're going to build the team around? Not going to happen. And don't talk to me about getting picks for him. No one is going to give up a lottery pick and that's the only way you're going to get this supposed cornerstone. Everyone says Kessel needs to go because he's not "the guy". Guess what, that describes every player on the roster! Why can't we be happy with a pure sniper? Why does ever first line player have to be an elite power forward? There's only a handful of those guys in the league.

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- As_I_See_It

What he can be used for however is a catalyst to acquire the pieces we really need to build a team both in what we get in return and where we are able to draft after he's gone.

I take it you're a fan of Elliotte Friedman?

Kessel is made for Toronto if you believe that mediocrity is just fine.

What Toronto really needs is a guy that a team can not only be built around but who can bring the Cup back to where it belongs. Kessel isn't that guy.
- Two_For_Truth

I agree with your last statement. That said, you dont trade Kessel just because he isnt that guy. Having both is what this team needs to get over the hump. Just like having Sundin alone never did this team much good.

Im fine with Kessel, but this team still has a lot of work to do.