Lots of forward acquisition talk. However, it's a solid blueline that helps us when it comes down to it come playoff time.
- powerhouse

I think the top 4 is fine (if healthy). My vision going into this season was that Despres would improve as the year went on, and him and Engelland would be a decent 3rd pairing.

I'd like to have Despres back playing... Yes, he's made some mistakes in the first few games, but that is something that you have to live with with a rookie defensemen. If he's going to have that short of a leash, it sort of worries me about other defensive prospects down the road. At some point, you have to throw them in there and let them play for a while.

Lots of forward acquisition talk. However, it's a solid blueline that helps us when it comes down to it come playoff time.
- powerhouse

I think its because we need a long-term W solution, but only a rental D solution. Long-term is a much harder fix than short-term.

It's five games into a season that had a short training camp and will have fewer practices because of the condensed schedule. It's easy to figure out why the team has looked out of sorts.

I'm more on the boat of being patient and waiting to see if it fixes itself. That is unless the Pens are trading for Jordan Eberle.
- Ben37

Normally I'd agree, however we're seeing a lot of the same sloppy play and mistakes that sent them packing last spring.

I think I read something like 25 giveaways in the last 3 games.

I'm all for being patient, but a 48 game schedule doesn't give a team much time to sort things out.

Sooner or later Shero is gonna have to develop a forward that will play top 6 minutes... Bennett probably will be one, but he needs another immediately. Most teams don't just trade young wingers with lots of potential just cause Shero has young d-man prospects. We can argue which ones are more valuable... but he needs an answer at wing... Absolute must... and Depres cannot be traded in any deal for Kulemin, Glencross or Setoguchi unless its weighted FOR the pens. The Leafs will not Kulemin let go for cheap and rightly so, he's young and cheap but for the pens he is a risk to due to his inconsistency. Glencross might be alright... for the right price... he is a dirty piece of business.

Sooner or later Shero is gonna have to develop a forward that will play top 6 minutes... Bennett probably will be one, but he needs another immediately. Most teams don't just trade young wingers with lots of potential just cause Shero has young d-man prospects. We can argue which ones are more valuable... but he needs an answer at wing... Absolute must... and Depres cannot be traded in any deal for Kulemin, Glencross or Setoguchi unless its weighted FOR the pens. The Leafs will not Kulemin let go for cheap and rightly so, he's young and cheap but for the pens he is a risk to due to his inconsistency. Glencross might be alright... for the right price... he is a dirty piece of business.
- nelson911

Besides Bennett, it doesn't look like there is another one close. Guys like Kunhackl or even Megna have an outside shot at developing into NHL players, and there are a couple interesting college guys (Agostino & Hanowski), but not much else in the cupboard and no one who looks like a top 6 player. I guess no one ever thought Dupuis or Kunitz would be top six players either as they were both undrafted.

I really hope Pouliot pans out, because there were some really promising looking forwards available when we took him at 8.

Besides Bennett, it doesn't look like there is another one close. Guys like Kunhackl or even Megna have an outside shot at developing into NHL players, and there are a couple interesting college guys (Agostino & Hanowski), but not much else in the cupboard and no one who looks like a top 6 player. I guess no one ever thought Dupuis or Kunitz would be top six players either as they were both undrafted.

I really hope Pouliot pans out, because there were some really promising looking forwards available when we took him at 8.
- rival22

Yea I thought for sure Forsberg dropping to them... was an easy pick... guess not, then Grigorenko was also passed on. I know its early in the condensed season and lots of Penguins did not play overseas during the lockout but the top 6 is kinda getting old and a stretch to be a top 6. Kunitz and Dupuis are only getting older and they aren't a working solution on Sid's wing. If I were Shero I would be dangling some assets for Bobby Ryan.

The need a winger thing is still blown out of proportion. Kunitz needs to play better. He's been really bad so far this year.

The need a winger thing is still blown out of proportion. Kunitz needs to play better. He's been really bad so far this year.
- Deadstar

Well we and Bylsma better hope they return to the piss and vinegar team that hit everything from previous years. Dupuis cannot finish scoring chances... but he can shoot it directly at the goalies chest.

The need a winger thing is still blown out of proportion. Kunitz needs to play better. He's been really bad so far this year.
- Deadstar

I agree however...we still only have 3 top 4 wingers though and the reason why one of the best if not the best lines last year are not together. But the goals will come with this team and that can wait til the deadline if need be. We need another D soon especially if nisk is out.

i would like kulemin. dont think the leafs part with him though. this despres for setoguchi thing is beyond dumb. if despres is only worth seto, we either severely overrated him or have already somehow ruined his development.

Subban gets 2 years for 2.875 per year

Subban gets 2 years for 2.875 per year
- drummer829

a steal.

a steal.
- nhindian

For now.

seto for lovejoy and tk

duno what kuliman would go for.... 4th rd pick or burtuzzo

i wonder what Rs can get iggy for without giving up a D prospect..
- nh4442

As average as Seto is, you aren't getting him for that.

Your idea for Toronto is like an Edmonton offer for Staal - full of nothing. Kulemin will command a first at least.

You are going to have to give up a top flight D prospect to get Iggy, since we are loaded and we don't have anything else.

Subban gets 2 years for 2.875 per year
- drummer829

With subban off the market i expect more teams to be coming after despres now...

Thanks for the info.

I'm a big fan of Seto, w/ him (i) being 26yrs old, (ii) having had sucess playing w/ a high-skill C in SJ (ie, Thorton), and (iii) being signed next year at $3M/yr. He could be solid, complimentary part of the Pens roster for 4-5 yrs, as he isn't a stand alone talent who would price himself out of the Pens roster after 1yr of sucess.

Glencross, not as much love. He's 30yrs old now w/ two more years at $2.5M/yr. Not a bad player, but I certainly wouldn't give up one of the Pens young Dmen in a package to get him regardless of what Calgary added back. I just don't see him contributing at a high leve for the Pens for 4-5yrs the way Despres would.

Kulemin would be an interesting target, though not sure he'd be available. The guy has top-end talent & could be deadly as a sniper with Crosby, but at only 26yrs old would Toronto want to part with him? As far as his work ethic & consistency goes, I think Geno could help him out with that, assuming they had a good relationship when they played together in Magnitigorsk during the lockout. In any case, it'd all depend on the price Toronto would ask for the guy.
- s0rcerer1984

I have absolutely no interest in Seto. So, I will stop there.

Glencross, I have way more love for. Reasonable salary; more productive than Seto and brings a big frame. He does more than Seto does.

Like Kulemin, but at what price.

Well, I was curoius too. There is a SSM in Canada as well. Its near Thunder Bay. My parents have a lake house near the one in Michigan. Ive been there a few times.
- sammy87

The two cities sharing the name are on the border across the river from each other...neat place to visit watching the big lake boats in the river...restaurant across the street from the locks on the US side makes a good fish dinner. That's all from the Emperor's travelouge for the day.

I have no interest in Setoguchi. I'm not sure why people are in a hurry to give on Despres...Go back and look how inconsistent Letang was his first couple years...hard position to learn. Always has been. I'm not completely opposed to trading him, but they need more in return than Setoguchi.

With subban off the market i expect more teams to be coming after despres now...
- nh4442

Calgary could of easily sent a huge offer sheet at 4-5 mil per, and then trade iginla to gain the 1st round pick they lost in compensation

In the little bits I have been watching J. Staal is looking a little frustrated at the extra attention being a no2 center brings.

He'll find his way but I think this 48 games is going to be a steep but important learning curve for him. He will come out a much better player next year.

That Canes team looks to be put together all wrong too.

In the little bits I have been watching J. Staal is looking a little frustrated at the extra attention being a no2 center brings.

He'll find his way but I think this 48 games is going to be a steep but important learning curve for him. He will come out a much better player next year.

That Canes team looks to be put together all wrong too.
- walshy66

They put in the effort(Canes) but not happening. I do miss Jordan but he chose his bed.

For now.
- Gunner Staal

Ha!

What about the Pens maybe getting Brett Connolly? A big body with skill, I'd sure like him, only thing is that he's a bit unproven at the NHL level. Although, he's not playing.

I have no interest in Setoguchi. I'm not sure why people are in a hurry to give on Despres...Go back and look how inconsistent Letang was his first couple years...hard position to learn. Always has been. I'm not completely opposed to trading him, but they need more in return than Setoguchi.
- Emperor Filonius

I dont think we are in a hurry to give him up.. just like to talk about what we could get for him.. i personally want him on the team and would rather have a different prospect other than despres and morrow be sent out if they are trying to find a winger....

They put in the effort(Canes) but not happening. I do miss Jordan but he chose his bed.
- powerhouse

Semin is a team killer. Muller will not want him on that roster. It will not surprise me is he is scratched throughout the year.