The problem with trading Despres now, is that his current trade value is not where near his potential value to a team.

Whitney and Goligoski got great return, but they were both proven NHL players at that point. Shero's brilliance was that they were pretty much at their ceilings at the time of the trades. Most people agree that Despres is on the right path to being a top-4 dman, but no team is going to give much more than a Devon Setoguchi for him right now.

Would you be happy if your team traded a bonafide top 6 winger who scores 25 goals, for a prospect who probably will be very good? Unless it's a deal for a rental, or part of an all out fire sale, I doubt it.
- rival22

Yeah if Despress can't crack the Pens D lineup regulary, he's not worth much.

Yeah if Despress can't crack the Pens D lineup regulary, he's not worth much.
- sammy87

I think there is a major reason why Despres isn't in the lineup now and Lovejoy is and it has nothing to do with his ability. Me thinks its showcasing Lovejoy. If they were looking to deal Despres, they wouldn't scratch him twice in a row in favor of the Dartmouth grad.

Madden says relax then in his next breath says the Pens need to make a trade before the deadline and that there's no time to wait.

No way do I want the Pens to trade Despres for Setoguchi. I would have no problem with the Pens trading him but it has to be a player better than Setoguchi.

I think there is a major reason why Despres isn't in the lineup now and Lovejoy is and it has nothing to do with his ability. Me thinks its showcasing Lovejoy. If they were looking to deal Despres, they wouldn't scratch him twice in a row in favor of the Dartmouth grad.
- Oneonta Penguin

No such thing as showcasing, not in this day in age.

I think there is a major reason why Despres isn't in the lineup now and Lovejoy is and it has nothing to do with his ability. Me thinks its showcasing Lovejoy. If they were looking to deal Despres, they wouldn't scratch him twice in a row in favor of the Dartmouth grad.
- Oneonta Penguin

What's Lovejoy going to show that scouts haven't seen before from him? It's not like he is going to all of the sudden be a top player other teams are targeting.

I think there is a major reason why Despres isn't in the lineup now and Lovejoy is and it has nothing to do with his ability. Me thinks its showcasing Lovejoy. If they were looking to deal Despres, they wouldn't scratch him twice in a row in favor of the Dartmouth grad.
- Oneonta Penguin

I don't think that they are showcasing anyone. Even if Lovejoy goes out and plays two great games, his return isn't going to change at all.

I can see Lovejoy going for a F prospect like PVR, someone like that. Despress and a pick for a bigger fish...Iginla

I don't think that they are showcasing anyone. Even if Lovejoy goes out and plays two great games, his return isn't going to change at all.
- rival22

You have alot of teams searching for blueliners right now. Philly, Islanders, Detroit, LA, Calgary, maybe Florida ... You need to play him a few games and hope he plays solid in order to fetch a decent return. Sure, he won't bring a first or second or third round return. However, a fourth isn't out of the question based on recent activities. JMO

I think there is a major reason why Despres isn't in the lineup now and Lovejoy is and it has nothing to do with his ability. Me thinks its showcasing Lovejoy. If they were looking to deal Despres, they wouldn't scratch him twice in a row in favor of the Dartmouth grad.
- Oneonta Penguin

Lovejoy is playing while Despres sits due to the fact that, at this moment, the 28yr old, experience Lovejoy is a better Dman than the 21yr old, inexperienced Despres.

Despres will get there, but he's not going to do it over night.

I can see Lovejoy going for a F prospect like PVR, someone like that. Despress and a pick for a bigger fish...Iginla
- sammy87

Why trade a young prospect for a guy who will be available in the summer? If they trade Despres, i would want a younger top 6 guy with potential.

I've been watching the Isles this year, tomorrow is going to be a tough game. If the team keeps playing lazy Tavares and co. will rip us a new one.

Why trade a young prospect for a guy who will be available in the summer? If they trade Despres, i would want a younger top 6 guy with potential.
- cap1681

I know, I was just always a big Iginla fan. He's got about 4 yrs left, wouldn't mind seeing them in Pitt.

I know, I was just always a big Iginla fan. He's got about 4 yrs left, wouldn't mind seeing them in Pitt.
- sammy87

You aren't the only fan of Iggy's. He would certainly be a big addition not only as a player, but as a leader. Despite his age, he still produces and its not like he is flanked by great talent. Regardless, if Calgary deals him, it will be for a Despres type and a first and third type of return, or a Morrow, a first and third. You are going to be giving up a significant young D prospect.

Only in Canada...


http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNE.../2013/01/27/20529981.html

Not sure what Oates is thinking. Boudreau and Hunter got their walking paper from the Caps because OV wasn't happy. Why would Oates think he'd be any different?

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...ne-with-crabb-and-beagle/

Only in Canada...


http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNE.../2013/01/27/20529981.html
- canadianpenfan

Sault Ste Marie is in Canada BTW....I hope he had skate guards on, or his blades are screwed.

Sault Ste Marie is in Canada BTW....I hope he had skate guards on, or his blades are screwed.
- sammy87

AHHHH I meant its in Michigan BTW...

AHHHH I meant its in Michigan BTW...
- sammy87

Weird. I wonder how they got a team in the Ontario Hockey League.

Not sure what Oates is thinking. Boudreau and Hunter got their walking paper from the Caps because OV wasn't happy. Why would Oates think he'd be any different?

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...ne-with-crabb-and-beagle/
- s0rcerer1984

Oates has a three year contract, maybe he's trying to get a couple years of paid vacation lol. I'm guessing it will be a matter of time before Leonsis undercuts him publicly.

Weird. I wonder how they got a team in the Ontario Hockey League.
- canadianpenfan

Well, I was curoius too. There is a SSM in Canada as well. Its near Thunder Bay. My parents have a lake house near the one in Michigan. Ive been there a few times.

Well, I was curoius too. There is a SSM in Canada as well. Its near Thunder Bay. My parents have a lake house near the one in Michigan. Ive been there a few times.
- sammy87

You don't say...

Not sure what Oates is thinking. Boudreau and Hunter got their walking paper from the Caps because OV wasn't happy. Why would Oates think he'd be any different?

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...ne-with-crabb-and-beagle/
- s0rcerer1984

Based on what I've seen from Ovi that's a good line for him. Why waste the talents of Backstrom when Ovi just wants to skate through the opposing team by himself?

Hey - Does anyone have access to TIOPS and, if so, can you tell me who the non-rental W's are that the Pens are supposedly targeting? Not sure why, but I really want to know.

I'm guessing Setoguchi is one of them.

http://insidepittsburghsp...-targets-surfacing/54633/
- s0rcerer1984

I subscribe to Tiops.....

Seto and Glencross are the two.....with Glencross the more preferable. Says Bylsma is a big fan of Seto. Also said Minny would need to add more to the deal. Finally said no serious talks are taking place.

Kuliman is a third player supposedly on their radar though the Pens are concerned with his consistency.

Take it for what it's worth. The guy seems to have some pretty good sources however.

I subscribe to Tiops.....

Seto and Glencross are the two.....with Glencross the more preferable. Says Bylsma is a big fan of Seto. Also said Minny would need to add more to the deal. Finally said no serious talks are taking place.

Kuliman is a third player supposedly on their radar though the Pens are concerned with his consistency.

Take it for what it's worth. The guy seems to have some pretty good sources however.
- madmike71

seto for lovejoy and tk

duno what kuliman would go for.... 4th rd pick or burtuzzo

i wonder what Rs can get iggy for without giving up a D prospect..

Another top notch power play for a Dan Bylsma team. Its pathetic it really is. Neal at the point, yeah thats a good move. Top PP man in the leage is taking slappers from the point on our PP wow that sounds weird.