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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 28 @ 12:44 PM ET
Ask her how long I'm going to live. I have some planning to do.
- mayorofangrytown

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 28 @ 12:45 PM ET
they traded them for each other and no one and everyone is happy and sad.
- wilsonecho91

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
no, i use the editor on ms office
- mydoglicks

Can you post it in the thread? I can fix it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
Here's the difference. Islanders don't have Edmonton's forward surplus plus Niederreiter is a year younger than Paajarvi (so he's a year further away from potentially being trade bait instead of part of the long-term plan).
- bmeltzer


What kind of cost would there be for Paajarvi? Do the Flyers have an Alex Stojanov that Edmonton would be willing to take? I'd rather not offer a higher pick, because I like the 2013 draft. Could he be had for a 4th?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
Now Sam is tossing around Voracek + a 1st to get Ryan. SMH
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
Can you post it in the thread? I can fix it.
- mayorofangrytown


I'm having the same trouble adding an avatar. It's a site issue. I can't even get my old avatar return
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
trade the surplus for some D......get bonafied snipers for giroux... read/simonds != Perry And ryan....Lets be real here. if you can get them both for nothing you do it...
- Philly1980



the only surplus I see on this team is 4th line guys.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jan 28 @ 12:52 PM ET
Or maybe he's struggling right now like the rest of the team is. And an injury, or the C, or anything else really isn't a factor.
- MJL

a lack of hustle makes me think that he's nursing an injury, not struggling with his game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
a lack of hustle makes me think that he's nursing an injury, not struggling with his game.
- FlyerGuy



Sometimes a lack of hustle is just a lack of hustle. And sometimes struggling, is just struggling. I don't beleive there is an injury issue with Giroux. He's just not playing that well. Along with a lot of other players.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 28 @ 12:57 PM ET
I love the Philadelphia Flyers but there is very little about this roster that excited me right now. I feelfeel we had a horrible off season and now we're in the middle of the pack. A seventh or eighth seed at best. I have never been to the Wells Fargo Center before and I was gonna go this season if not for the lockout. Thanks to the lockout, I am gonna wait until the excitement comes back and I promise that it will. I know the season has only just begin but this team has holes.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 12:57 PM ET
the only suplus I see on this team is 4th line guys.
- nastyflyergirl


I think the Flyers have a lot of depth there. Flyers are great at developing Forwards. I wish a young defenseman would pan out once in a while.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 28 @ 12:57 PM ET
no you need to upgrade defense....obviously this is a 2 year plan where i wouldnt give up any pick or prospects to get these guys. with perry and ryan you could easily trade read/voracek/simmonds for defensive help.

Plus tank this year and get seth jones

- Philly1980

Sorry Philly but I'm glad you're not the GM k back to work... Fatigue ... Must .... Work ... Ugh legs .... Gone
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 28 @ 12:59 PM ET
Sometimes a lack of hustle is just a lack of hustle. And sometimes struggling, is just struggling. I don't beleive there is an injury issue with Giroux. He's just not playing that well. Along with a lot of other players.
- MJL

We'll see how the rest of the season pans out. Just seems like this team finds it acceptable to mail it in when falling behind or in consecutive days. Uh man I'm tired
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:00 PM ET
I love the Philadelphia Flyers but there is very little about this roster that excited me right now. I feelfeel we had a horrible off season and now we're in the middle of the pack. A seventh or eighth seed at best. I have never been to the Wells Fargo Center before and I was gonna go this season if not for the lockout. Thanks to the lockout, I am gonna wait until the excitement comes back and I promise that it will. I know the season has only just begin but this team has holes.
- SuperSchennBros



We knew they had holes before the Season started. There is no doubt in my mind that this team is better then what is showed so far this Season. And LA was an 8th seed last year. So make the playoffs, and see what happens.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 28 @ 1:02 PM ET
I think the Flyers have a lot of depth there. Flyers are great at developing Forwards. I wish a young defenseman would pan out once in a while.
- MJL



I don't see a surplus of top end guys at all that they can afford to trade
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 28 @ 1:03 PM ET
Sorry Philly but I'm glad you're not the GM k back to work... Fatigue ... Must .... Work ... Ugh legs .... Gone
- JoeRussomanno


if i were the gm we would have had 10 cups by now.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 28 @ 1:04 PM ET
Now Sam is tossing around Voracek + a 1st to get Ryan. SMH
- NickTheKid87


Really digging into Da Man archives. Smart man, wouldn't you agree?

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
I don't see a surplus of top end guys at all that they can afford to trade
- nastyflyergirl



I agree there isn't a surplus of top forwards. But if the right defenseman comes along, have ot make the deal. Only two I wouldn't trade is Couturier and Giroux.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
Now Sam is tossing around Voracek + a 1st to get Ryan. SMH
- NickTheKid87


Oh Brilliant. Trade Voracek and a 1st rounder in a fairly deep draft for Bobby Ryan...

Don't wait and see if the 23 year old can rebound. And by all means trade the pick right when it's possible that it'd be a top 3 pick.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
Sometimes a lack of hustle is just a lack of hustle. And sometimes struggling, is just struggling. I don't beleive there is an injury issue with Giroux. He's just not playing that well. Along with a lot of other players.
- MJL

Obviously the poor play is part of the struggles he's going through right now, along with a lot of other guys.

But when the captain of the team doesn't hustle I prefer to think there's a physical reason, and not just attribute it to "struggling".

Struggling and lack of hustle shouldn't even be in the same sentence, imo.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:08 PM ET
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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:10 PM ET
Ask her how long I'm going to live. I have some planning to do.
- mayorofangrytown


will do. she's a financial advisor. she can help with that.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jan 28 @ 1:10 PM ET
We knew they had holes before the Season started. There is no doubt in my mind that this team is better then what is showed so far this Season. And LA was an 8th seed last year. So make the playoffs, and see what happens.
- MJL


Very optimistic of you...

My biggest fear is that Homer will make some reactionary bad move just to stay afloat this year. They have a lot of rookies and inexperience. This team may have their troubles this year - I say ride it out - and, give the young guys some more experience.

ps. A rocky start, and a potentially a rough year, is exactly why I did not want Giroux to be captain this year. It might be ok in the long run. I have noticed that I've seen Timmo interviewed more than Giroux.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 28 @ 1:10 PM ET
First off, I'm not a huge Leighton fan (but, neither a boosh fan)

Leighton skip the backup roll a few years ago and moved into the #1 job. He's spend a lot of time in the AHL, mainly due to numbers and I believe Homer was protecting Leighton by not moving him up and back risk losing him to waivers(maybe thats a stretch). Boucher has shown anything special in the past few years. I thought that Leighton, really benefited by the goalie coaches in Phl. And, I think his game is a step above since being in Phl. My point is the it's probably a push at this point.

- leon neon

Leighton didnt skip the backup job.. he got rushed up do to injuries to both of our goalies.

That year he played very well.. so did Boosh, and so did Emery. They were all helped out by a significantly deep 2 way offense, and a top end defense. Look at Leightons stats since the cup final.

4 NHL games. Actually 3 and one period. In two seasons. And in those 10 periods, he has allowed 13 goals. 13.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:11 PM ET
Obviously the poor play is part of the struggles he's going through right now, along with a lot of other guys.

But when the captain of the team doesn't hustle I prefer to think there's a physical reason, and not just attribute it to "struggling".

Struggling and lack of hustle shouldn't even be in the same sentence, imo.

- FlyerGuy



This really isn't the first time in recent play that Giroux has been lazy defensively. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen from time to time with him. I agree that struggling and lack of hustle and effort are two different things.
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