LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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maybe.. i think he'll have a long career.. but as the hal gill type
needs to learn how to play within his strengths - Dozzer
The one thing I noticed is Vanek is a goal suck, the guy is never back checking, he is hovering around centre ice, lol. |
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prock
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Sparks is doing just as well as all the goalies picked last season, too bad Leaf fans don't spend a little time to realize this. - LeafMan
Sparks is playing pretty well in the O, but he's still a long shot. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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The one thing I noticed is Vanek is a goal suck, the guy is never back checking, he is hovering around centre ice, lol. - LeafMan
yup, sits up high and waits for the long outlet pass. once teams start picking up on that tho its going to be a detriment and not a plus for the sabres.
its all very tough to gauge right now.. so much rust on so many guys |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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I think Phaneuf is really the odd man out. we should use our buyout on him, gain 6.5 mil in cap. Drop Komi as well.
Dropping Phaneuf gives gardiner a spot on the top 2 pairing.
Dropping Komi allows a young guy like Holzer to step in. - twiztedmike
Phaneuf is till their best D-man, and only has 1 more year left on his deal. Oh and he's also their captain. Buying him out makes zero sense. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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and there's vanek sitting out all alone again |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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The one thing I noticed is Vanek is a goal suck, the guy is never back checking, he is hovering around centre ice, lol. - LeafMan
1st Sabres game you've ever seen then? |
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prock
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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I think Phaneuf is really the odd man out. we should use our buyout on him, gain 6.5 mil in cap. Drop Komi as well.
Dropping Phaneuf gives gardiner a spot on the top 2 pairing.
Dropping Komi allows a young guy like Holzer to step in. - twiztedmike
I don't think buying Phaneuf out makes sense. He may be overpaid, but he's still probably the best dman the Leafs have. Having cap space is great, but if you're not going to use it on anything, it makes no difference. The Leafs have piles of space next year, I doubt they find enough high end guys to spend it all on, and the year after that, his contract is up.
I wouldn't even mind re-signing him, at half the price. |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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1st Sabres game you've ever seen then? - Big_Lightnin
Yeah I'm a hockey watching rookie. |
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I don't think buying Phaneuf out makes sense. He may be overpaid, but he's still probably the best dman the Leafs have. Having cap space is great, but if you're not going to use it on anything, it makes no difference. The Leafs have piles of space next year, I doubt they find enough high end guys to spend it all on, and the year after that, his contract is up.
I wouldn't even mind re-signing him, at half the price. - prock
True. I think our D is crowded though and if all these younger guys can prove they belong then either Phaneuf or Franson have to be the odd man out.
You are right - if we can keep Phaneuf at a cheaper price then this is a good option to explore. |
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Adam French
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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Yeah I'm a hockey watching rookie. - LeafMan
just sounded like you were just noticing that this game... |
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deerow84
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: GTA, ON Joined: 06.26.2012
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49ers vs Pats final? Hoping Ravens can pull out the upset but probably not. |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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FREAKARENKSHOW - AdamFrench
-1, 11 mins of ice-time... kid was DOMINANT! |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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FREAKARENKSHOW - AdamFrench
Should have 4 goals by just staring at the puck today, he is that good!!! |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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just sounded like you were just noticing that this game... - Big_Lightnin
lol |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Yeah I'm a hockey watching rookie. - LeafMan
whats this hockey you speak of?
sounds interesting. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Phaneuf is till their best D-man, and only has 1 more year left on his deal. Oh and he's also their captain. Buying him out makes zero sense. - Big_Lightnin
logic. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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1st Sabres game you've ever seen then? - Big_Lightnin
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Should have 4 goals by just staring at the puck today, he is that good!!! - LeafMan
(frank)ing Vanek stealing the kids thunder. At least he was easily the most complete player in the NHL |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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True. I think our D is crowded though and if all these younger guys can prove they belong then either Phaneuf or Franson have to be the odd man out.
You are right - if we can keep Phaneuf at a cheaper price then this is a good option to explore. - twiztedmike
Essentially what I think you're saying is intentionally get rid of the best Dman, make the D weaker, in order to let young guys play. That doesn't sound like a good idea to me at all. If the young dmen improve and earn that ice, it can only be a good thing. Let them earn it, don't make moves to give it to them.
Also, last year, Gunnarson, Liles, and Franson all missed games due to injury. There will be injuries, and that ice will go younger guys.
Although, I think you're right, and can see Franson getting traded. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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-1, 11 mins of ice-time... kid was DOMINANT! - lumlums
He's going to be the reason Buffalo get into the playoffs. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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FREAKARENKSHOW - AdamFrench
freakorenknoshow today. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Essentially what I think you're saying is intentionally get rid of the best Dman, make the D weaker, in order to let young guys play. That doesn't sound like a good idea to me at all. If the young dmen improve and earn that ice, it can only be a good thing. Let them earn it, don't make moves to give it to them.
Also, last year, Gunnarson, Liles, and Franson all missed games due to injury. There will be injuries, and that ice will go younger guys.
Although, I think you're right, and can see Franson getting traded. - prock
yeah, only 12:35 in ice time for Franson.. and the leafs had plenty of PP time.. wonder why? |
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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He's going to be the reason Buffalo get into the playoffs. - burn
Buffalaughalo will make the playoffs because of officiating |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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Buffalaughalo will make the playoffs because of officiating - bobbyisno1
Pegulalugosi is the richest owner in the NHL, he can afford to pay a little extra for the refs. |
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