RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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apparently they've had a future for going on 6-7 years now..... - jakenewton
That's the Islanders you're confusing us with. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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jakenewton
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Location: Leaf fans still waiting for a , BC Joined: 02.15.2007
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Don'y worry, based on your farm team, and the GM you've got... you guys are gonna be in for a nice long re-build too.
Probably 5 more years of futility before they even realize they need to rebuild. - Feeling Glucky?
Everyone who gets called up does great! |
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annoyance_101
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Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t Joined: 07.16.2006
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annoyance_101
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That's the Islanders you're confusing us with. - RogerRoeper
no he's not, i've heard the same crap about the leafs for a very long time...i dont know if its 6-7 years exactly but leafs fans have always boosted about their great depth on defense (usually ends at the bottom of the league with GA)...and the offense cant help at that point...nothings changing this year so far...kadris been decent though, i'll say that...still worse than hodgson but none the less |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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no he's not, i've heard the same crap about the leafs for a very long time...i dont know if its 6-7 years exactly but leafs fans have always boosted about their great depth on defense (usually ends at the bottom of the league with GA)...and the offense cant help at that point...nothings changing this year so far...kadris been decent though, i'll say that...still worse than hodgson but none the less  - annoyance_101
You really haven't. Everyone says how terrible the Leafs prospect pool is. They've never had an acclaimed system.
The Islanders get top 5 or 10 picks yearly and never get better. |
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annoyance_101
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Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t Joined: 07.16.2006
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You really haven't. Everyone says how terrible the Leafs prospect pool is. They've never had an acclaimed system.
The Islanders get top 5 or 10 picks yearly and never get better. - RogerRoeper
Media hasnt said that about Toronto in Vancouver much, its the fans that boost about their prospect pool...even though its been crap for so long, and leafs fans have been in denial since the last lockout |
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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t Joined: 07.16.2006
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I'd take Kassian, in MacLaren's place.
That's about it. Nothing else there remotely interesting. - Feeling Glucky?
Perfectly fine by me, because theres nothing on the leafs other than Kadri, JVR and Gardiner that I would welcome on the Canucks |
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Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC Joined: 07.11.2006
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Perfectly fine by me, because theres nothing on the leafs other than Kadri, JVR and Gardiner that I would welcome on the Canucks  - annoyance_101
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Media hasnt said that about Toronto in Vancouver much, its the fans that boost about their prospect pool...even though its been crap for so long, and leafs fans have been in denial since the last lockout - annoyance_101
Evey fanbase does that. The vast majority of the media and NHL fans think Toronto has no future and has a horrific prospect pool. They are proving people wrong right now.
I mention the Islanders, because everyone kissing their butts over their AMAZING young talent that never arrives. |
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jakenewton
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Leaf fans still waiting for a , BC Joined: 02.15.2007
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Steckel  - Skalapy
for volpatti |
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annoyance_101
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Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t Joined: 07.16.2006
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Evey fanbase does that. The vast majority of the media and NHL fans think Toronto has no future and has a horrific prospect pool. They are proving people wrong right now.
I mention the Islanders, because everyone kissing their butts over their AMAZING young talent that never arrives. - RogerRoeper
They've got amazing young talent on long island...the problem there is management and coaching...sending strome and nino down to the minors where they won't progress as players is insane...they'd do great in the NHL if given the chance AND used properly... |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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They've got amazing young talent on long island...the problem there is management and coaching...sending strome and nino down to the minors where they won't progress as players is insane...they'd do great in the NHL if given the chance AND used properly... - annoyance_101
With Wang as an owner and being a cap floor team they'll never get better. The Leafs have a better future. |
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annoyance_101
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With Wang as an owner and being a cap floor team they'll never get better. The Leafs have a better future. - RogerRoeper
I agree about Wang and I dont think thats actually true about the leafs being better personally, yes they're playing better because they've got a better coach and not nearly as stupid management like wang and snow steering the ship...but i would take tavares, strome, nino, and reinhart over kessel, lupul, kadri and gardiner any day |
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daeth
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Krasnov's bunker, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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Goalie numbers looking good for Toronto right now. |
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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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Goalie numbers looking good for Toronto right now. - daeth
I wonder if yancy and jakey are ok? |
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doon
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Spruce Grove, AB Joined: 08.27.2008
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Goalie numbers looking good for Toronto right now. - daeth
Nice to see Kadri playing so well. |
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daeth
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Krasnov's bunker, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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2.25 GAA for the team
.930 SV%
Unsustainable but at this point those are some nice stats. |
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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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2.25 GAA for the team
.930 SV%
Unsustainable but at this point those are some nice stats. - daeth
I'm not that sure about "unsustainable"... it's not a product of the goalies playing above they're heads, it's the team eliminating 2nd and 3rd scoring chances, and the goalies learning to throw their rebounds to safe areas.
They're not doing well as a fluke, they're doing well because they've bought into Carlyle's system.
They're a young team, so it's very possible they'll forget what got them the points, and fall back to bad habits from time to time... But as long as they keep bouncing back to the system, the'r numbers will look good. |
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Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.03.2009
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I'm not that sure about "unsustainable"... it's not a product of the goalies playing above they're heads, it's the team eliminating 2nd and 3rd scoring chances, and the goalies learning to throw their rebounds to safe areas.
They're not doing well as a fluke, they're doing well because they've bought into Carlyle's system.
They're a young team, so it's very possible they'll forget what got them the points, and fall back to bad habits from time to time... But as long as they keep bouncing back to the system, the'r numbers will look good.  - Feeling Glucky?
i would say you're both right. Even if they keep playing well, those kind of stats are better than any team in the league generally gets. The best team averages in the entire league last year, weren’t as good. I would agree that the stats are going to look much better this year, but I highly doubt they remain that high. I highly doubt any team in the league remains that high. Maybe we fall a bit, down to the level of the Canucks (although, they’ll probably fall from where they are, so we’d still be better) |
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daeth
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Krasnov's bunker, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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I'm not that sure about "unsustainable"... it's not a product of the goalies playing above they're heads, it's the team eliminating 2nd and 3rd scoring chances, and the goalies learning to throw their rebounds to safe areas.
They're not doing well as a fluke, they're doing well because they've bought into Carlyle's system.
They're a young team, so it's very possible they'll forget what got them the points, and fall back to bad habits from time to time... But as long as they keep bouncing back to the system, the'r numbers will look good.  - Feeling Glucky?
Reimer at .929 SV% is Lundqvist-like. Scrivens at .939 is Tim Thomas stuff. Toronto's D isn't good enough to keep them at that level all year either. They're not exactly the 2011-2012 Blues. I'd expect a drop off.
I think at the end of the season their stats will be respectable still though. Definitely good enough to squish any Luongo to Toronto rumours. |
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Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.03.2009
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Reimer at .929 SV% is Lundqvist-like. Scrivens at .939 is Tim Thomas stuff. Toronto's D isn't good enough to keep them at that level all year either. They're not exactly the 2011-2012 Blues. I'd expect a drop off.
I think at the end of the season their stats will be respectable still though. Definitely good enough to squish any Luongo to Toronto rumours. - daeth
I suspect Vancouver is equally as happy there was no Luongo to anywhere trade. Schneider has not looked like a number one goalie at all this year. Given his brief resume, I think they'd better be careful about how they handle these two. |
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daeth
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Krasnov's bunker, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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I suspect Vancouver is equally as happy there was no Luongo to anywhere trade. Schneider has not looked like a number one goalie at all this year. Given his brief resume, I think they'd better be careful about how they handle these two. - Dirte
Schneider has been ok so far this year. Luongo right now is probably the better goalie though. Unless Vancouver plans on adding salary at the trade deadline they're probably better off keeping Luongo anyway to be honest. Their cup window isn't exactly getting bigger and having Luongo there as insurance is huge. |
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Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.03.2009
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Schneider has been ok so far this year. Luongo right now is probably the better goalie though. Unless Vancouver plans on adding salary at the trade deadline they're probably better off keeping Luongo anyway to be honest. Their cup window isn't exactly getting bigger and having Luongo there as insurance is huge. - daeth
Not an easy situation though. Try run the numbers through cap geek for next year. Without Luongo gone, there is virtually no way of getting under the cap. A Ballard buyout, Booth trade, and I still don't think they're there. |
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