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Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:03 PM ET
So what is it now, Schneider to Leafs only a matter of time?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:09 PM ET
So what is it now, Schneider to Leafs only a matter of time?
- Morris

Leafs have 2 guys better than Schneider, why would we do that?
nightmare3020
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor Area, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Feb 22 @ 4:10 PM ET
Leafs have 2 guys better than Schneider, why would we do that?
- Feeling Glucky?

bolster the marlies depth
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:11 PM ET
bolster the marlies depth
- nightmare3020

In what world is adding Schnieder bolstering anything?



nightmare3020
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor Area, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Feb 22 @ 4:25 PM ET
In what world is adding Schnieder bolstering anything?




- Feeling Glucky?

bolsters the cap
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:36 PM ET
bolsters the cap
- nightmare3020

In that case, I'd rather acquire Luo. With his contract, they'd need to send more to make it worthwhile than with Schneider.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:53 PM ET
Somehow, I don't think some of the Vancouver fans would want Schneider on Toronto either. Because as much as they hate to admit it, part of their fascination with Luongo moving to Toronto was seeing shifting a hefty contract to a team they hate.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 22 @ 5:49 PM ET
So what is it now, Schneider to Leafs only a matter of time?
- Morris


Why the hell do the Leafs need Schneider?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 22 @ 5:50 PM ET
Somehow, I don't think some of the Vancouver fans would want Schneider on Toronto either. Because as much as they hate to admit it, part of their fascination with Luongo moving to Toronto was seeing shifting a hefty contract to a team they hate.
- Morris


Yep. But the Leafs don't need Luongo or want that contract. In fact, it's looking like no one wants it.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 22 @ 6:35 PM ET
Yep. But the Leafs don't need Luongo or want that contract. In fact, it's looking like no one wants it.
- RogerRoeper

But if they had Luongo right now they could have a team .934 SV% instead of a team .931 SV%. Imagine the difference that'd make.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 22 @ 9:42 PM ET


And really? You wouldn't want Kessel?

- Feeling Glucky?


No? I really wouldnt...he scores goals, canucks arent having a problem with that, thats all kessel does...he's not useful for anything else...having a 14 mill 2nd line would not please me in the slightest
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 22 @ 10:23 PM ET
No? I really wouldnt...he scores goals, canucks arent having a problem with that, thats all kessel does...he's not useful for anything else...having a 14 mill 2nd line would not please me in the slightest
- annoyance_101



That's a rather outdated stereotype of Kessel. Did you not see his highlight pass to JVR last night? The guy is becoming more of a great playmaker than great goalscorer. He's an all-around great offensive player.
gretzky
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:15 PM ET
I can't agree with you there.

To the first point... Kessel's got such a well rounded game now, he's exactly the type of winger you'd expect on a cup winner's top line, and he's shown(albeit, a few years ago) that he's got no problem putting up points in the playoffs. The guy is as good a playmaker as he is a goalscorer- when he's got another scorer on his line(like Lupul or JVR) goalies have a hard time figuring out if they should stick with him, or cheat and cover the other shooter- saw it last night with JVR. And he's backchecking well now.

To the second point... I don't see any team putting together a package good enough. It's unlikely that another bottom-feeder is going to trade their picks or top prospects to us, and a contending team won't be interested in swapping one of their top guys for him, either. We'd be looking at getting a whole bunch of secondary pieces for him. If we lacked depth, I could see it... but we don't.

- Feeling Glucky?




It isn't even close who the biggest homer on this site is. Not even close.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 23 @ 12:35 AM ET


It isn't even close who the biggest homer on this site is. Not even close.

- gretzky



This coming from an Oilesr fan who's "Star" forwards are so one-dimensional it's not funny...
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Feb 23 @ 12:39 AM ET
This coming from an Oilesr fan who's "Star" forwards are so one-dimensional it's not funny...
- RogerRoeper

Not like the noted two-way beast Phil Kessel eh?

Hes wrong though. Id peg you as the biggest homer on this site.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 23 @ 12:41 AM ET
Not like the noted two-way beast Phil Kessel eh?

Hes wrong though. Id peg you as the biggest homer on this site.

- sanfordnson



If Kessel played on any other team, no ope would cast him as the poster boy for being one-Dimensional. No one cared when he was on Boston.

Are you guys going to finish 30th overall again? You're still not nearly as good as the "Horrible" Leafs.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:55 AM ET
That's a rather outdated stereotype of Kessel. Did you not see his highlight pass to JVR last night? The guy is becoming more of a great playmaker than great goalscorer. He's an all-around great offensive player.
- RogerRoeper


Ok, even so, all offense, which is still my point... saying he's all offense is not a stereotype, its true...the team is defensively better because of carlyle...
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:56 AM ET


It isn't even close who the biggest homer on this site is. Not even close.

- gretzky

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:03 AM ET
Ok, even so, all offense, which is still my point... saying he's all offense is not a stereotype, its true...the team is defensively better because of carlyle...
- annoyance_101


Kessel is playing fine defensively.

I told people like you last year Wilson was the problem, but you said the defense and goaltending was the worst in the NHL.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 1:40 AM ET
Kessel is playing fine defensively.

I told people like you last year Wilson was the problem, but you said the defense and goaltending was the worst in the NHL.

- RogerRoeper


the defense is, the goaltending i'm still not sold on...they ALWAYS start the season well in Toronto...every year...and then flop...
gretzky
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 23 @ 1:42 AM ET
Kessel is playing fine defensively.

I told people like you last year Wilson was the problem, but you said the defense and goaltending was the worst in the NHL.

- RogerRoeper


I watch a lot Leaf games. Trust me, anyone who says Kessel is a good defensive player is being a huge homer. He isn't the worst guy in the league defensively... but he is well below average. He led the Leafs in turnovers by a significant amount last year too.

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:47 AM ET
I watch a lot Leaf games. Trust me, anyone who says Kessel is a good defensive player is being a huge homer. He isn't the worst guy in the league defensively... but he is well below average. He led the Leafs in turnovers by a significant amount last year too.
- gretzky


The issue is, he IS considered by far the worst defensive player in the entire NHL by far. Your superstars in Edmonton are just terrible defensively.

And what do stats from last year mean? Ron Wilson's system was a joke. It's being proven this year how bad it was.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:49 AM ET
the defense is, the goaltending i'm still not sold on...they ALWAYS start the season well in Toronto...every year...and then flop...
- annoyance_101


Goaltending never starts well in Toronto.

And you're incorrect. Most yeaRS THEY PLAY GREAT IN fEBRUARY. tHE START OF THE YEAR THEY ARE TERRIBLE.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 1:52 AM ET
Goaltending never starts well in Toronto.

And you're incorrect. Most yeaRS THEY PLAY GREAT IN fEBRUARY. tHE START OF THE YEAR THEY ARE TERRIBLE.

- RogerRoeper


uhh its about 1/3 of the start of the season.......regardless of what month it is, it is still the "start" of the season...once about the 35 game mark, we'll see if they're still in the playoff hunt...
gretzky
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 23 @ 1:55 AM ET
The issue is, he IS considered by far the worst defensive player in the entire NHL by far. Your superstars in Edmonton are just terrible defensively.

And what do stats from last year mean? Ron Wilson's system was a joke. It's being proven this year how bad it was.

- RogerRoeper


I'll make your night and take the bait:

Our superstars are aged 18-22. Most players of that age aren't incredibly defensively responsible.

Players like Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins will end up far superior 2 way players to Kessel.

Yakupov will be our "Kessel" (Plays offensively minded most of the time).

For the record, I wouldn't build a team around Yakupov or Kessel. It's a good thing we have a bunch of talent to surround Yak with. He's scary talented but I want a more rounded player to build around.
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