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PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 1 @ 2:32 PM ET
Seriously, if the League/Owners and Players are as genuine about "just wanting to get back on the ice" as they been saying throughout this entire process, why wouldn't a provision like this be added to the new CBA?

It doesn't benefit one side more than the other and the deadlines "to negotiate" would be bumped up to the summer and early September. With EVERYTHING FOR AN ENTIRE SEASON on the line, both sides would have way more motivation to sort this crap out.

- As_I_See_It

That's a fantastic idea, but there would still be a game of chicken, right up to the bitter end. The collective agreement should end, the day after the Stanley Cup is won, in the year it expires.
seven111dman
Los Angeles Kings
Location: L.A. , CA
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jan 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
Happy Hangover Day (frank)ers!!!
- Tee-Dot


Shhhhhhh! Quiet! My head hurts!
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
Happy Hangover Day (frank)ers!!!
- Tee-Dot


only the weak get hang overs, wussy
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jan 1 @ 2:39 PM ET
Shhhhhhh! Quiet! My head hurts!
- seven111dman

I'm having a beer.
seven111dman
Los Angeles Kings
Location: L.A. , CA
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jan 1 @ 2:41 PM ET
I'm having a beer.
- Tee-Dot

Its a dog hair day for sure

As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
That's a fantastic idea, but there would still be a game of chicken, right up to the bitter end. The collective agreement should end, the day after the Stanley Cup is won, in the year it expires.
- PrinceLH


... And that is fine as it part of "the process." The bottom line is that it would eliminate both sides from poking around each others posterior with their Richards in an effort to see who can screw the other worse when they know that EVERYTHING is on the line.

Most importantly, it would also save the fans all the time, frustration and the emotional roller coaster that comes with a BS lockout as we are witnessing now and have in the past.
Buttwipe
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Praying that Ek would get one
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 1 @ 3:04 PM ET
I'm having a beer.
- Tee-Dot

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
Seriously, if the League/Owners and Players are as genuine about "just wanting to get back on the ice" as they been saying throughout this entire process, why wouldn't a provision like this be added to the new CBA?

It doesn't benefit one side more than the other and the deadlines "to negotiate" would be bumped up to the summer and early September. With EVERYTHING FOR AN ENTIRE SEASON on the line, both sides would have way more motivation to sort this crap out.

- As_I_See_It


This idea has one fatal flaw.

Once the CBA expires so would the provision.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 1 @ 3:12 PM ET
Shhhhhhh! Quiet! My head hurts!
- seven111dman



My everything hurts *puking emoticon*
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jan 1 @ 3:13 PM ET
That's a fantastic idea, but there would still be a game of chicken, right up to the bitter end. The collective agreement should end, the day after the Stanley Cup is won, in the year it expires.
- PrinceLH


Its a Stupid idea..quit trying to polish a dog turd.
Buttwipe
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Praying that Ek would get one
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 1 @ 3:13 PM ET
This idea has one fatal flaw.

Once the CBA expires so would the provision.

- Dozzer

Not really, the wording in the CBA would specifically spell out all of the details, deadlines, etc...for when the new CBA would need to be in place or the upcoming season will be cancelled...
Tweaterben
Minnesota Wild
Location: PROFESSIONAL CHOKE ARTISTS, MN
Joined: 10.19.2008

Jan 1 @ 3:14 PM ET
MINNESOTA VS CHICAGO @ TARGET FIELD!!!!!!!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
MINNESOTA VS CHICAGO @ TARGET FIELD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Tweaterben

You (frank)ed the page up bro
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
Not really, the wording in the CBA would specifically spell out all of the details, deadlines, etc...for when the new CBA would need to be in place or the upcoming season will be cancelled...
- Buttwipe


But if the CBA expired there would be no CBA, which means no provisions of any kind would remain in place. It would have to be written into the league bylaws, not the CBA
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 1 @ 3:18 PM ET
You (frank)ed the page up bro
- Giroux_Is_God


Fixed
Buttwipe
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Praying that Ek would get one
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 1 @ 3:19 PM ET
But if the CBA expired there would be no CBA, which means no provisions of any kind would remain in place. It would have to be written into the league bylaws, not the CBA
- Dozzer

That's the beauty of this type of CBA...It won't expire until a new CBA is reached and will do one of two things: Cancel the upcoming season or be granfathered in for one more season until a new CBA is reached...
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 1 @ 3:19 PM ET
Fixed
- Dozzer

You're a good man
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 1 @ 3:24 PM ET
That's the beauty of this type of CBA...It won't expire until a new CBA is reached and will do one of two things: Cancel the upcoming season or be granfathered in for one more season until a new CBA is reached...
- Buttwipe


So a CBA without a specific term? No way anyone would sign that. Especially the owners. It would take away their ability to lock the players out.

For a provision like this to work within a CBA there would have to be a CBA. Like I said before, great idea, just write it into the league bylaws, since they don't expire like a CBA does.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 1 @ 3:25 PM ET
You're a good man
- Giroux_Is_God


I try
Buttwipe
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Praying that Ek would get one
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 1 @ 3:29 PM ET
So a CBA without a specific term? No way anyone would sign that. Especially the owners. It would take away their ability to lock the players out.

For a provision like this to work within a CBA there would have to be a CBA. Like I said before, great idea, just write it into the league bylaws, since they don't expire like a CBA does.

- Dozzer

That would be great if they added it to the league bylaws, and I agree with you that all of this is wishful thinking as it hurts the owners way more than it does the players, but it would be a great goodwill gesture and maybe they could word it in such a way to add some NHLPA accountibility as well...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 1 @ 3:30 PM ET
Chris Botta (@ChrisBottaNHL)
1/1/13, 12:32
If there are no walk-outs, pouting or posturing, an NHL deal will be done by early next week.

- Bleedblue13



Where's the fun in that? These tantrums are better than Angus T. Jones rants
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 1 @ 3:33 PM ET
That would be great if they added it to the league bylaws, and I agree with you that all of this is wishful thinking as it hurts the owners way more than it does the players, but it would be a great goodwill gesture and maybe they could word it in such a way to add some NHLPA accountibility as well...
- Buttwipe


It would also pressure NHLPA leadership to start bargaining as soon as humanly possible... Say during the entire last season of the CBA. Instead of pulling why Fehr did this time around and wait til the last possible moment to start talks. Those are the kind of time sensitive pressure tactics that need to be removed from both sides of the table.

As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 1 @ 3:38 PM ET
It would also pressure NHLPA leadership to start bargaining as soon as humanly possible... Say during the entire last season of the CBA. Instead of pulling why Fehr did this time around and wait til the last possible moment to start talks. Those are the kind of time sensitive pressure tactics that need to be removed from both sides of the table.
- Dozzer


Precisely.
Buttwipe
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Praying that Ek would get one
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 1 @ 3:41 PM ET
It would also pressure NHLPA leadership to start bargaining as soon as humanly possible... Say during the entire last season of the CBA. Instead of pulling why Fehr did this time around and wait til the last possible moment to start talks. Those are the kind of time sensitive pressure tactics that need to be removed from both sides of the table.
- Dozzer

Yes, these kinds of thiings should have been implemented years ago to ensure the overall health of the league...The way the NHL/NHLPA does things is like watching two five year olds fighting with each other at recess for who's next to use the swing...
Feeling_Glucky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 2024 Stanley Cup Champion, AZ
Joined: 08.18.2010

Jan 1 @ 3:51 PM ET
only the weak get hang overs, wussy
- Rayven

don't u get a hangover on half a glass of wine?
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