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Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 17 @ 12:20 PM ET
Because the next-door neighbor has one!

Edit: Americans are too blind to see beyond their rights that they're in an arms race against themselves.

- As_I_See_It


This.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to head out to Walmart and get myself a tactical nuclear weapon. (Its on layaway)
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 17 @ 12:21 PM ET
I was responding to one post by Buffalo--Sabres guy. Go back and read it. I wasn't stating anything other than it was a terrible analogy. I told myself I was done commenting on this topic today, but when I see people still making comments like that one, I have a hard time not responding with a little sound logic. If you agree with what he posted, well then I guess nothing more needs to be said.
If I misunderstood his point, fine my apologies.


Please point out where I've argued any of the things you're suggesting should be mandated?

- MnGump

Please re-read my post - I state that everything I wrote are things you have already agreed with.

I also stated you are a responsible gun owner.

I even dropped a hint for you to invite me to go hunting with you some time.

I just took exception to you stating that people want to "take away the right to own guns."

Nobody is saying that.

Cool?
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

Dec 17 @ 12:21 PM ET
Let me ask a simple question. If the shooter at that school had a knife instead of an assault weapon. Do you think the Adults would have had a chance to overwhelm the punk and stop him from killing 27 people? Not saying there wouldn't have been any injuries or fatalities. But do you think the results would have been the same? What chance did they have against an Assault Rifle with high volume magazines?
- MJL

Why would he have o use a knife. Kid seemed intelligent enough, he probably would have used explosives for the effect he was looking for.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Dec 17 @ 12:21 PM ET
[quote=Atomic Wedgie]You continually state that people are advocating removing the right to own guns.

Please stop.

Nobody is saying this.

Every rational call for stricter gun controls advocates things that you have already stated you would be fine with.

What's wrong with mandating guns are locked up at all times, trigger locks, background checks, and a ban on assault rifles?

- bixll[/
quote]


Nothing at all, as a gun owner, it is not the guns that kill. It is people...if they want to kill, they will find a way to do so. It is a terrible thing, but it is not the fault of the guns. Someone had to pull the trigger. The issue is not for the law bidding citizen anyway. Most murders are done with guns that were not purchased legally in the first place. How can you ever stop this?



if there were no triggers to be pulled than those "people that kill people" would just have finger cramps...
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Dec 17 @ 12:22 PM ET
if there were no triggers to be pulled than those "people that kill people" would just have finger cramps...
- LetsGoIsles


How about making bullets $100 each instead of 10 cents each.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:23 PM ET
if there were no triggers to be pulled than those "people that kill people" would just have finger cramps...
- LetsGoIsles




No, they would use something else to do it..
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 17 @ 12:23 PM ET
Cars kill far more people every year than guns... should we regulate cars too? How about the rampant knife attacks in China? They didn't need guns..


It's NOT a gun issue, it's a personal, mental issue. If someone snaps, they snap, regardless of what they use to kill.


Why is this even being discussed on a hockey forum?

- WarriorHockey21


The use of cars IS regulated.

-Try going 100 mph on the turnpike or drive drunk and see how far you get.
-You have to have a license to drive.
-You have to pass a government mandated proficiency test to drive.

Its being discussed on a hockey forum because its more important than hockey and because there is no hockey being played.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 12:23 PM ET
If he did not have a gun, he may have built a bomb and hurt many more..
- bixll



Yea, you're right. So why bother banning Assault rifles. It's a waste of time.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:23 PM ET
How about making bullets $100 each instead of 10 cents each.
- Scooby_Doo


How about paying attention to your kids more......
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Dec 17 @ 12:24 PM ET
If he did not have a gun, he may have built a bomb and hurt many more..
- bixll



oh, so THANK GOD he only had a gun???
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Dec 17 @ 12:24 PM ET
Cars kill far more people every year than guns... should we regulate cars too? How about the rampant knife attacks in China? They didn't need guns..


It's NOT a gun issue, it's a personal, mental issue. If someone snaps, they snap, regardless of what they use to kill.


Why is this even being discussed on a hockey forum?

- WarriorHockey21


This whole "cars kill too, should we ban them as well?" argument is the weakest sh!t going on the net today. Cars have a practical use NECESSARY FOR SOCIETY TO FUNCTION, GUNS DO NOT! Without cars and transportation the global economy crashes. Without guns, the world is a safer and better place.

People have "mental issues" and "snap" all over the world and don't have ANYWHERE NEAR the gun violence that the US does, now why is that? Could it be that guns are too engrained into American culture and collective mentality, and that guns are too readily available/accessible?

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 17 @ 12:25 PM ET
This.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to head out to Walmart and get myself a tactical nuclear weapon. (Its on layaway)

- Emperor Filonius

This is exactly why I advocated taking the men with the brass keys out of the silos, and turning it over to a computer system like the War Operation Plan Response (WOPR) computer. You eliminate the possibilty of humans getting it wrong.

But if any of you are worried that the computer will launch a strike, don't worry: you can build into the system that it can't launch missles until we go to DefCon 5.

Nothing can go wrong.

Trust me.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:25 PM ET
Yea, you're right. So why bother banning Assault rifles. It's a waste of time.
- MJL



First, there is no need to own an assult rifle. What do you hunt with that??

Gun legislation has to have some form of common sense involved. Most guns used in killings, were purchased illegally. How do you stop that?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:26 PM ET
oh, so THANK GOD he only had a gun???
- LetsGoIsles


Try not to be a Richard.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 12:26 PM ET
Why would he have o use a knife. Kid seemed intelligent enough, he probably would have used explosives for the effect he was looking for.
- tmlfan17



Could've done a lot of things. Doesn't change that Gun laws need to change.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:26 PM ET
awesome!!!

the top catching prospect in baseball and the blue jays top pitching prospect? yes please!!!

- LetsGoIsles

Tell me about it , the Mets gangbusted AA on this one ....
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Dec 17 @ 12:27 PM ET
Is what they did to the Patriots last night...
- KABLOOEY

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 12:27 PM ET
First, there is no need to own an assult rifle. What do you hunt with that??

Gun legislation has to have some form of common sense involved. Most guns used in killings, were purchased illegally. How do you stop that?

- bixll



I'll leave how to specifically do that to the experts. But please don't tell me that there is nothing that can be done about guns.
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

Dec 17 @ 12:27 PM ET
The sole purpose of having the right to own a gun is so the government isn't the only one's with the guns.
Dictator's can only take over unarmed citizens..
The only way the government will take away the citizens guns is through civil war.

In saying that, I think some adjustments on to ammo, clip sizes and maybe a signed mental health evaluation for people wanting guns isn't irrational.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 17 @ 12:29 PM ET
Yea, you're right. So why bother banning Assault rifles. It's a waste of time.
- MJL


I believe the VA tech shooter killed even more helpless people using only handguns. Did you ever notice these shootings happen where it's common knowledge that nobody will be able to shoot back?
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Dec 17 @ 12:29 PM ET
I'll leave how to specifically do that to the experts. But please don't tell me that there is nothing that can be done about guns.
- MJL

I really believe it's time for the government to amend the 2nd Amendment...That amendment is killing us from within...
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:29 PM ET
I'll leave how to specifically do that to the experts. But please don't tell me that there is nothing that can be done about guns.
- MJL



Bad guys will ALWAYS have them, should citizen not ba able to protect themselves??

What do you do with the millions of illegal guns, currently on the streets?
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

Dec 17 @ 12:30 PM ET
How about making bullets $100 each instead of 10 cents each.
- Scooby_Doo

So only the rich can kill. What about the 99%....
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 17 @ 12:31 PM ET
If I were you, I wouldn't worry about the knee surgery he had last year.

Because I'd be more worried about him missing half the 2010 season due to two (count 'em - two!) bulging discs in his back.

A catching prospect with a bad knee and back.

Uh oh.

- Atomic Wedgie


DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 17 @ 12:32 PM ET
The sole purpose of having the right to own a gun is so the government isn't the only one's with the guns.
Dictator's can only take over unarmed citizens..
The only way the government will take away the citizens guns is through civil war.

In saying that, I think some adjustments on to ammo, clip sizes and maybe a signed mental health evaluation for people wanting guns isn't irrational.

- tmlfan17


agreed. and a classroom of dead children every now and then? hey, there's a price to freedom, right? at least they'll be ready for the bombers.
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