i get a little confused here. so the other 180 just gets dispersed evenly? and the other 50 goes to say 7 teams?

so those 7 teams get there 6 mil share of the 180 along with the other 23 teams... plus an extra 6ish mil each from the 50 earmarked for revenue sharing.
not bad.

does this also include the revenue sharing already in place?
- hugefemale dog77

The other 180 goes to the teams that pull it in as far as I can tell, and yes the 230 is in addition to what is already in place.

Read the post, Chuck. Baseball managers got smarter. Hockey GMs might as well.
- Canada Cup

the only way to even attempt to keep it fair without a cap, would be to restrict players contractual rights even furthur.
ud at least get a window of top notch hockey with a player u developed to win.

but it would still come full circle every time . stamkos is a free agent? just offer him double what tampa does

Read the post, Chuck. Baseball managers got smarter. Hockey GMs might as well.
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i suppose they did. but it's still a cycle for any low end team. a small revolving window while the big spenders are there every single year.

smart gives u a couple years. but when buddy is a free agent..hes gone.

[quote=Giroux_Is_God]Implying NHL players read his blogs....

You think they don't?

The other 180 goes to the teams that pull it in as far as I can tell, and yes the 230 is in addition to what is already in place.
- golfingsince

just to be clear..the 180 goes to EVERYONE?? from the leafs to the blue jackets.
wouldnt make sense if the poor teams didnt also share in that as well as the 50.

i suppose they did. but it's still a cycle for any low end team. a small revolving window while the big spenders are there every single year.

smart gives u a couple years. but when buddy is a free agent..hes gone.
- hugefemale dog77

Well we can all rejoice when both the Yankees and Red Sox fail to make the play-offs this year.

Well we can all rejoice when both the Yankees and Red Sox fail to make the play-offs this year.
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im with u 100% on that bud!!! love to see it. we'll see though

the only way to even attempt to keep it fair without a cap, would be to restrict players contractual rights even futhur.
ud get a window of top notch hockey with a player u developed to win.

but it would come full circle every time . stamkos is a free agent? just offer him double what tampa does
- hugefemale dog77

The other interesting thing I heard was someone saying that guys like Crosby and Stamkos are actually underpaid relative to the financial impact they have on their franchises. Value of Penguins has increased 164% since he was drafted.

I guess you never played connect the dots as a kid. Too bad, it's a life skill you seem to need help with now.

The players are proposing that ALL of their HRR concessions go directly to revenue sharing, thereby meaning no teams should be losing money anymore. That's roughly $230 million in a full season IN ADDITION to what is currently in place.

Let's summarize.

1. The owners are crying broke

2. They want a larger share of HRR

3. The players say ok but it goes to teams that are losing money.

4. Owners aren't interested.

5. Fans say poor owners, they can't survive under current system

So who's trying to fix the system and who's just clamouring for more money?
- golfingsince

First of all what HRR concessions? You mean the proposal that would see the players share go from 57% over the course of the 5 year deal to what is being estimated (nobody knows yet the full extent of damage to HRR's) as probably around 55-56%.

I just showed you the leagues proposal that would see them allot 1 billion over that span of time to revenue sharing.

As far as your other points:

1: Absolutely yes. More than half the teams lost money in 10/11

2: Yes, the 1.88 billion the players get,compared to the leagues <300 million in profits is a highly unfair split.

3:The only place the players want the money to go is in thier own bank accounts. Don't kid yourself on this one.

4: Well... duh?

5: Correct. Owners can't survive under current system. If changes aren't made then contraction, and moving the game back 2 decades are a strong possibility.

Lasly the owners are trying to fix the system, and the players are clamoring for more money.

I really hope i've been helpful in answering your questions.

The other interesting thing I heard was someone saying that guys like Crosby and Stamkos are actually underpaid relative to the financial impact they have on their franchises. Value of Penguins has increased 164% since he was drafted.
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yes but crosby never won anything without malkin.

First of all what HRR concessions? You mean the proposal that would see the players share go from 57% over the course of the 5 year deal to what is being estimated (nobody knows yet the full extent of damage to HRR's) as probably around 55-56%.

I just showed you the leagues proposal that would see them allot 1 billion over that span of time to revenue sharing.

As far as your other points:

1: Absolutely yes. More than half the teams lost money in 10/11

2: Yes, the 1.88 billion the players get,compared to the leagues <300 million in profits is a highly unfair split.

3:The only place the players want the money to go is in thier own bank accounts. Don't kid yourself on this one.

4: Well... duh?

5: Correct. Owners can't survive under current system. If changes aren't made then contraction, and moving the game back 2 decades are a strong possibility.

Lasly the owners are trying to fix the system, and the players are clamoring for more money.

I really hope i've been helpful in answering your questions.
- steveb12344

just to be clear..the 180 goes to EVERYONE?? from the leafs to the blue jackets.
wouldnt make sense if the poor teams didnt also share in that as well as the 50.
- hugefemale dog77

Under the owners view, only $50 million of the $230 million they are asking the players to give back under a 50/50 revenue split ( base on $3 billion in revenue ) goes to revenue sharing. The other goes to line the pockets of whichever owner rakes it in.

The players want to see all of it go to revenue sharing, the entire $230 million.

In other words, some owners that are currently making tons of money already are just asking to make more.

First of all what HRR concessions? You mean the proposal that would see the players share go from 57% over the course of the 5 year deal to what is being estimated (nobody knows yet the full extent of damage to HRR's) as probably around 55-56%.

I just showed you the leagues proposal that would see them allot 1 billion over that span of time to revenue sharing.

As far as your other points:

1: Absolutely yes. More than half the teams lost money in 10/11

2: Yes, the 1.88 billion the players get,compared to the leagues <300 million in profits is a highly unfair split.

3:The only place the players want the money to go is in thier own bank accounts. Don't kid yourself on this one.

4: Well... duh?

5: Correct. Owners can't survive under current system. If changes aren't made then contraction, and moving the game back 2 decades are a strong possibility.

Lasly the owners are trying to fix the system, and the players are clamoring for more money.

I really hope i've been helpful in answering your questions.
- steveb12344

LMAO.

You are truly clueless.

i wouldnt bother. you are probably arguing with EK or one of his writers, who are trolling their own comment sections to keep people posting on here. this is actually quite common.

First of all what HRR concessions? You mean the proposal that would see the players share go from 57% over the course of the 5 year deal to what is being estimated (nobody knows yet the full extent of damage to HRR's) as probably around 55-56%.

I just showed you the leagues proposal that would see them allot 1 billion over that span of time to revenue sharing.

As far as your other points:

1: Absolutely yes. More than half the teams lost money in 10/11

2: Yes, the 1.88 billion the players get,compared to the leagues <300 million in profits is a highly unfair split.

3:The only place the players want the money to go is in thier own bank accounts. Don't kid yourself on this one.

4: Well... duh?

5: Correct. Owners can't survive under current system. If changes aren't made then contraction, and moving the game back 2 decades are a strong possibility.

Lasly the owners are trying to fix the system, and the players are clamoring for more money.

I really hope i've been helpful in answering your questions.




Revenue Sharing
The NHL has proposed to increase the Revenue Sharing pool for 2012/13 to $200 million (assuming League-wide revenues of $3.303 Billion), representing an approximately 33% increase over the amount that will be distributed on account of 2011/12. This enhanced amount is at least comparable to the levels of revenue sharing in the NBA and MLB, and will be adjusted proportionately upward or downward based on Actual HRR results in future seasons.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=643572

That 200 million from thier share of the next 5 years revenues that they proposed would equal about $40 million per year.

Just what am i missing here?
- steveb12344

No. Dude, you can't even understand what you are writing yourself, so maybe you should stop arguing with what others are writing.

Nice try though.

The other interesting thing I heard was someone saying that guys like Crosby and Stamkos are actually underpaid relative to the financial impact they have on their franchises. Value of Penguins has increased 164% since he was drafted.
- Canada Cup

This makes perfect sense. because Crosby is the only player on that team that the fans want to see. All the other players on the team are just dogpoop and don't deserve to dress in the same room that he hangs his jock-strap.

100% of the success the franchise has had recently,especially winning the Cup and all the extra fanfare that came along with it is entirely attributable to Crosby being there. As a matter of fact for the whole time Crosby was out they couldn't sell a single tick.....Oh wait.

yes but crosby never won anything without malkin.
- joshs

Crosby brings fans and money

This makes perfect sense. because Crosby is the only player on that team that the fans want to see. All the other players on the team are just dogpoop and don't deserve to dress in the same room that he hangs his jock-strap.

100% of the success the franchise has had recently,especially winning the Cup and all the extra fanfare that came along with it is entirely attributable to Crosby being there. As a matter of fact for the whole time Crosby was out they couldn't sell a single tick.....Oh wait.


- steveb12344

I love the Malkin Tim Hortons ads

No. Dude, you can't even understand what you are writing yourself, so maybe you should stop arguing with what others are writing.

Nice try though.
- golfingsince

Whatever 200,240...it's been a long morning.

Doesn't change my point though.

If you dispute anything i said then tell me specifically what, and i will gladly school you like the teenaged groupie hero worshipper that you are

Crosby brings fans and money
- Canada Cup

so pitsburgh penguins sold out every game since crosby has been on the team?
and then when he was out injured they did not sell out a game?

so pitsburgh penguins sold out every game since crosby has been on the team?
and then when he was out injured they did not sell out a game?
- joshs

Are you really trying to argue that Crosby isn't a huge draw for fans? It's not just about Pittsburgh home games. When they're on the road it's a hot ticket because people want to see him play. I go out of my way to try and go Isles/Penguins games...I don't give a rats ass about going when the Islanders play Columbus or Phoenix.

so pitsburgh penguins sold out every game since crosby has been on the team?
and then when he was out injured they did not sell out a game?
- joshs

He got people interested in hockey again. All you have to do is look at the attendance before and after he joined the team. Is that all on him? No. But he's easily marketable. And as someone esle pointed out, other fans pay to see him play in their arenas. You also can't discount jersey and other marketable sales as well.

LMAO.

You are truly clueless.
- golfingsince

Is this just your opinion or is it fact?

Because if it's fact then i would have to ask for a source.

Though if it's your opinion, then that's fine because after reading your nonsensical posts. Your opinion actually means less then nothing to me.

[quote=Giroux_Is_God]Implying NHL players read his blogs....

You think they don't?
- Eklund

I wonder if Komisarek does? He can't feel too good after a visit to this site.

Whatever 200,240...it's been a long morning.

Doesn't change my point though.

If you dispute anything i said then tell me specifically what, and i will gladly school you like the teenaged groupie hero worshipper that you are
- steveb12344

Again you have no clue about what YOU posted.

Speaking of school, you should probably go back for a refresher.