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OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.23.2012

Oct 30 @ 2:47 AM ET
If season starts:

Columbus - C, MacKinnon
Islanders - D, Seth Jones
Edmonton - C, Alex Barkov
Dallas - C, Sean Monahan
Montreal - RW, Andre Burokovsky

There better be a season cause if there isnt our odds for a top 5 lottery pick are as good as anyone elses.

Then trade Ganger, Hemsky and Anaheims 2nd rounder to Florida for Kulikov and a 4th rounder

EDIT: Then trade Horcoff, Paajarvi, Musil and Floridas 4th rounder to NYI for Griffin Reinhart!!
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Oct 30 @ 2:58 AM ET
If season starts:

Columbus - C, MacKinnon
Islanders - D, Seth Jones
Edmonton - C, Alex Barkov
Dallas - C, Sean Monahan
Montreal - RW, Andre Burokovsky

There better be a season cause if there isnt our odds for a top 5 lottery pick are as good as anyone elses.

Then trade Ganger, Hemsky and Anaheims 2nd rounder to Florida for Kulikov and a 3rd rounder

Then trade Horcoff, Paajarvi and Floridas 3rd rounder to NYI for Griffin Reinhart!!

- OilerFanFromBC


Does Kate Upton felate you in these dreams of yours?
Tony Montana
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.30.2008

Oct 30 @ 3:02 AM ET
Trading Hemsky for a late first round pick does not make us a better team next season, and the chances of that first rounder turning into a player as good as Hemsky are low.
OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.23.2012

Oct 30 @ 3:06 AM ET
Does Kate Upton felate you in these dreams of yours?
- MaximumBone

No, but she should
OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.23.2012

Oct 30 @ 3:08 AM ET
Trading Hemsky for a late first round pick does not make us a better team next season, and the chances of that first rounder turning into a player as good as Hemsky are low.
- Tony Montana

Thats why we trade him with Gagner and Anaheims 2nd rounder to Florida for Kulikov and a 4th rounder
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Oct 30 @ 3:11 AM ET
SUPERSTORM.
MrSmitty
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2007

Oct 30 @ 5:19 AM ET
If season starts:

Columbus - C, MacKinnon
Islanders - D, Seth Jones
Edmonton - C, Alex Barkov
Dallas - C, Sean Monahan
Montreal - RW, Andre Burokovsky

There better be a season cause if there isnt our odds for a top 5 lottery pick are as good as anyone elses.

Then trade Ganger, Hemsky and Anaheims 2nd rounder to Florida for Kulikov and a 4th rounder

EDIT: Then trade Horcoff, Paajarvi, Musil and Floridas 4th rounder to NYI for Griffin Reinhart!!

- OilerFanFromBC


Have you watched any Oil kings games this year. Reinhart isn't exactly lighting it up.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 30 @ 6:11 AM ET
no more picks.

if we're trading assets that can help us, its for immediate help in a position of weakness. not for more picks that may or may not help in 5 years.

the draft is incredibly important, and building from within is paramount. but we need to improve now, especially if we're gonna be moving a piece that IS making us abetter team right now.. looking to the distant future has to end at some point.

regardless, keep hemmer for the year. shelter yaks abit. at least lets wait until yaks truly is lighting it up. not just throw him to the wolves and give ourselves nowhere to turn if he struggles.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 30 @ 6:15 AM ET
bluechip rookies and draft picks!! every year!! thats what we need to be successfull!!
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 30 @ 6:16 AM ET
If season starts:

Columbus - C, MacKinnon
Islanders - D, Seth Jones
Edmonton - C, Alex Barkov
Dallas - C, Sean Monahan
Montreal - RW, Andre Burokovsky

There better be a season cause if there isnt our odds for a top 5 lottery pick are as good as anyone elses.

Then trade Ganger, Hemsky and Anaheims 2nd rounder to Florida for Kulikov and a 4th rounder

EDIT: Then trade Horcoff, Paajarvi, Musil and Floridas 4th rounder to NYI for Griffin Reinhart!!

- OilerFanFromBC



wow.

a lottery pick is not what we want
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Oct 30 @ 8:21 AM ET
With Hemsky showing such good chemistry with Krejci in international play and now in Parbudice, perhaps we can convince Boston to take him off our hands. But I don't think they would be willing to part with anything other than their 1st rounder. Their other assets we'd be interested in are all pretty much untouchables in Lucic, Subban, Hamilton, and Seguin. Ideally I'd love to see Lucic in our lineup beating the hell out of Vancouver 6 games a year but he's a god there and aint going anywhere.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 30 @ 8:30 AM ET
With Hemsky showing such good chemistry with Krejci in international play and now in Parbudice, perhaps we can convince Boston to take him off our hands. But I don't think they would be willing to part with anything other than their 1st rounder. Their other assets we'd be interested in are all pretty much untouchables in Lucic, Subban, Hamilton, and Seguin. Ideally I'd love to see Lucic in our lineup beating the hell out of Vancouver 6 games a year but he's a god there and aint going anywhere.
- Ihatebrianburke

God is spelt with a capital G and you should be trying to pry Krejci out of Boston not the other way around.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Oct 30 @ 8:47 AM ET
God is spelt with a capital G and you should be trying to pry Krejci out of Boston not the other way around.
- LeftCoaster

There is no god so there's no need to capitalize anything. Also Krejci isn't what we need. He's not a size upgrade to our top 6. Gagner is a little shorter but is heavier than him.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 30 @ 9:14 AM ET
wow.

a lottery pick is not what we want

- hugefemale dog77


No we don't want one but as our team stands we may be getting another top 5 or 10 pick again. If we are trading a lottery pick it has to be to a team that has some star talent within our cores age group and that fits some needs as well. I would trade a lottery pick (likely in a package with the usual suspects paajarvi, gagner, or hemsky) for a top 6 winger with size, a big second line centre, or a top pairing d man. Might be tough to do tho. Just off the top of my head all that was available was Nash, yandle and staal. I'd like to think tambo called for each.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 30 @ 9:25 AM ET
SUPERSTORM.
- sanfordnson

good thing you made all those pumpkins pies
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Oct 30 @ 9:35 AM ET
There is no god so there's no need to capitalize anything. Also Krejci isn't what we need. He's not a size upgrade to our top 6. Gagner is a little shorter but is heavier than him.
- Ihatebrianburke

Well done.
Hemsky should be dealt to upgrade the defence...
The Oil's top6 is deadly, Duby has shown some flashes of being great, although can be argued he isn't a true #1, but with some good D in front of him, he very well could be...
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Oct 30 @ 9:37 AM ET
If season starts:

Columbus - C, MacKinnon
Islanders - D, Seth Jones
Edmonton - C, Alex Barkov
Dallas - C, Sean Monahan
Montreal - RW, Andre Burokovsky

There better be a season cause if there isnt our odds for a top 5 lottery pick are as good as anyone elses.

Then trade Ganger, Hemsky and Anaheims 2nd rounder to Florida for Kulikov and a 4th rounder

EDIT: Then trade Horcoff, Paajarvi, Musil and Floridas 4th rounder to NYI for Griffin Reinhart!!

- OilerFanFromBC


ZERO chance Reinhart is dealt...especially for that.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Oct 30 @ 9:46 AM ET
Well done.
Hemsky should be dealt to upgrade the defence...
The Oil's top6 is deadly, Duby has shown some flashes of being great, although can be argued he isn't a true #1, but with some good D in front of him, he very well could be...

- BoBBeR56

I think Dubby would surprise a lot of people if he played with a real nhl calibre defense for the entire season. A healthy Whitney would go a long way towards making this a reality. I wouldn't be opposed to trading Hemsky for Boston's 1st but I would hope that we would be parlaying that pick with other assets, possibly our 1st rounder as well, for a top 2 dman.
RichardHertz
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 10.25.2012

Oct 30 @ 9:48 AM ET
Thats why we trade him with Gagner and Anaheims 2nd rounder to Florida for Kulikov and a 4th rounder
- OilerFanFromBC

Horrendous
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 30 @ 10:05 AM ET
Top six def needs another forward with size. You really think Hartikanen is gonna be a top six winger? I bet PRV gets a better look up there before Harti. None the less the Oilers are gonna be exciting to watch. More size in that top six is gonna open the ice for the kids to do work on the western conf.
- poisondhearts37

I think Harti could be a top 6 winger in the way that Troy Brouwer, Cal Clutterbuck or Shawn Bergenheim get time on the top lines - to throw some hits and create some space moreso than take part in scoring. Now, Harti isn't even on their level yet, and he won't be a true power forward I don't think but if he improves his skating it could be an option.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 30 @ 10:08 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: What Should the Oilers Do Post-Lockout?
- Maxbone

I don't like the trading Hemsky idea frankly. We've drafted this player, invested time and agonized over how he fits for over a decade, hoped and dreamed that he'd someday have talented players to play with, and that he'd be healthy enough to capitalize, and then we trade him when things start to fall into place.

If we do trade him, it ought to be for defensive help, not a pick.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:14 AM ET


If we do trade him, it ought to be for defensive help, not a pick.

- Morris

This pretty much should be said about all NHL quality players. We don't have the luxury to be trading talent for picks/prospects. If you want to trade some of the AHLers who may one day make the NHL, but who's time is running out, then fine take the picks for them.
rathagor
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.27.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:14 AM ET
I didnt really mean for like just hitting everyting in sight size. But hes got the size and speed to have a puck control game. Which I like alot.
- poisondhearts37


My problem with the Oilers top six is that while they have lots of skill they are a soft group. I personnelly believe that the top 6 needs a guy who is willing lay the body consistently.

Contrary to what Cloutier believes, that is not Hall. Hall was on pace for around 60 hits last year (less than 1 per game) and he was the biggest hitter in the top six. Yakupov might be that guy but we'll have to wait and see. This is why i'd prefer Hartikanen over PRV as he will hit.

We need that Milan Lucic or Dustin Brown type player in the top 6.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Oct 30 @ 10:25 AM ET
My problem with the Oilers top six is that while they have lots of skill they are a soft group. I personnelly believe that the top 6 needs a guy who is willing lay the body consistently.

Contrary to what Cloutier believes, that is not Hall. Hall was on pace for around 60 hits last year (less than 1 per game) and he was the biggest hitter in the top six. Yakupov might be that guy but we'll have to wait and see. This is why i'd prefer Hartikanen over PRV as he will hit.

We need that Milan Lucic or Dustin Brown type player in the top 6.

- rathagor

Everybody needs that kind of player which is why they're rarely traded. Gotta draft and develop them. Management is hoping that's what Mitch Moroz turns into.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:26 AM ET
My problem with the Oilers top six is that while they have lots of skill they are a soft group. I personnelly believe that the top 6 needs a guy who is willing lay the body consistently.

Contrary to what Cloutier believes, that is not Hall. Hall was on pace for around 60 hits last year (less than 1 per game) and he was the biggest hitter in the top six. Yakupov might be that guy but we'll have to wait and see. This is why i'd prefer Hartikanen over PRV as he will hit.

We need that Milan Lucic or Dustin Brown type player in the top 6.

- rathagor


I've heard bad things about Kyle beach's attitude but he is an option that may come cheap from Chicago. Big and mean. Has demonstrated scoring ability in the past. Maybe could thrive with a change of scenery.
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