I can see this discussion is going nowhere fast. I stated my opinion. We'll see what happens going forward.

You guys have a nice day.
- NightTrain_AlMo

i think you upset him

The a**holes who go play in europe can go F* themselves. I don't give a rat a** about following them in some foreign league.

They had a full year to negotiate with the NHL and didn't bother and now want to extend the current CBA while negotiating a new deal. The players must think the fans are f* stupid.

I hope some swiss league team hires a goon and he lays a serious beating on Joe thornton.

The a**holes who go play in europe can go F* themselves. I don't give a rat a** about following them in some foreign league.

They had a full year to negotiate with the NHL and didn't bother and now want to extend the current CBA while negotiating a new deal. The players must think the fans are f* stupid.

I hope some swiss league team hires a goon and he lays a serious beating on Joe thornton.
- kaptaan

My goodness, you Canuck fans really are angry, huh?

i think you upset him
- Isles4fornow

LOL, not in the slightest, but seriously, why go down a rathole, debating a topic like this, with someone you don't even know?

This is especially true since neither of us can be proven right or wrong at the moment. Even going forward, we will probably never know who did what for what reason.

So, it is futile

My goodness, you Canuck fans really are angry, huh?
- Isles4fornow

The clock is ticking on the Sedins, and the Canucks "window".

i think you upset him
- Isles4fornow

Upset me? Not at all. The world is a better place when all voice are heard -- even those that are wrong

Upset me? Not at all. The world is a better place when all voice are heard -- even those that are wrong
- Canada Cup

No i think you upset him

LOL, not in the slightest, but seriously, why go down a rathole, debating a topic like this, with someone you don't even know?

This is especially true since neither of us can be proven right or wrong at the moment. Even going forward, we will probably never know who did what for what reason.

So, it is futile
- NightTrain_AlMo

isnt that the point of posting here?

Playing Europe won't affect the outcome. If Gary can keep the profitable owners onside to throw away a season, they win again
- Canada Cup

playing in europe shows the players are not a unified group as well as affecting public perception.....the owners have them by the balls.

playing in europe shows the players are not a unified group as well as affecting public perception.....the owners have them by the balls.
- Barx

Please explain why playing in Europe shows they are not unified. If the owners are prepared to toss away the season, they win. Whether some players go to Europe is irrelevant

If you want to hate someone, hate the Canucks -- it's way more satisfying.
- Canada Cup

Wake up fool... Survey says the Loafs are the most hated team in Canada...

A new Angus Reid Public Opinion poll conducted in partnership with Maclean’s has found that Toronto—not Vancouver—is the country’s most hated hockey team. It turns out Vancouver, which has worn the “hated” label since last spring’s failed Stanley Cup run, is actually one of the country’s most popular teams. Montreal, meanwhile, is the country’s favourite club.

No i think you upset him
- Isles4fornow

Oh -- I hope not. He seemed a little upset about the whole thing to begin with. I seriously don't understand why so many people are convinced that the fight for money between owners and players is a fight against good and evil no matter whose side you support.

My goodness, you Canuck fans really are angry, huh?
- Isles4fornow

Lols... only when it comes to hockey :-)

Wake up fool... Survey says the Loafs are the most hated team in Canada...
- kaptaan

Congrats

Oh -- I hope not. He seemed a little upset about the whole thing to begin with. I seriously don't understand why so many people are convinced that the fight for money between owners and players is a fight against good and evil no matter whose side you support.
- Canada Cup

I support NBC

Oh -- I hope not. He seemed a little upset about the whole thing to begin with. I seriously don't understand why so many people are convinced that the fight for money between owners and players is a fight against good and evil no matter whose side you support.
- Canada Cup

Do you think we will see any of this on NHL 24/7

Do you think we will see any of this on NHL 24/7
- Isles4fornow

We will see a whole lot of Brian Burke. What better reason to save the season is there?

We will see a whole lot of Brian Burke. What better reason to save the season is there?
- Canada Cup

lol...w/o hockey i have no chance of seeing what wonerful suit Don Cherry is sporting...im gonna miss that

Please explain why playing in Europe shows they are not unified. If the owners are prepared to toss away the season, they win. Whether some players go to Europe is irrelevant
- Canada Cup

Any player taking jobs from players in other leagues is talking out of both sides of their mouth. If they truly 'just want to play hockey' then sign on bettmans dotted line, rake in your millions and shut the hell up.
If they are going to go to war with Bettman, then stick together,stay and battle.
You cannot have it both ways and retain any amount of solidarity or respect.

Why is it the owners who are 'tossing away the season'? The players won't agree to a new CBA proposal, does that not mean they are the ones 'tossing the season?'

Any player taking jobs from players in other leagues is talking out of both sides of their mouth. If they truly 'just want to play hockey' then sign on bettmans dotted line, rake in your millions and shut the hell up.
If they are going to go to war with Bettman, then stick together,stay and battle.
You cannot have it both ways and retain any amount of solidarity or respect.

Why is it the owners who are 'tossing away the season'? The players won't agree to a new CBA proposal, does that not mean they are the ones 'tossing the season?'
- Barx

How many time can you take it from behind before you stand up for yourself...and not every player makes millions....this fight is for them moreso than the higher echelon in the league

How many time can you take it from behind before you stand up for yourself...and not every player makes millions....this fight is for them moreso than the higher echelon in the league
- Isles4fornow

so stay and fight, don't take jobs from the guys who 'don't make millions'.

so stay and fight, don't take jobs from the guys who 'don't make millions'.
- Barx

its part of the process....if 4th liners were going to europe what impact would that have...none!!....if ovi or malkin go now your making a point...yes they are tools in the negotiation process which benefis the 4th liners...they are fighting for them

its part of the process....if 4th liners were going to europe what impact would that have...none!!....if ovi or malkin go now your making a point...yes they are tools in the negotiation process which benefis the 4th liners...they are fighting for them
- Isles4fornow

Yes but it's the 3rd and 4th liners who hurt the most from the loss of a paycheque.
The top players will not be hurting if they miss a cheque or 2.

Yes but it's the 3rd and 4th liners who hurt the most from the loss of a paycheque.
The top players will not be hurting if they miss a cheque or 2.
- braidan

so how is this the 1 & 2 liners fault? or what else can they do to fix it?

so how is this the 1 & 2 liners fault?
- Isles4fornow

I am NOT saying it is anybody's fault, but if you were the 3rd and 4th liner sitting at home not getting paid and you see the top players getting paid still AND probably making the biggest noise about not giving back money then it might be a little upsetting.