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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: It was 3-0, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 16 @ 12:02 PM ET
He mistifies me to be honest, Romney says all this crazy poop and then he doesn't even say what he is going to do, he just says elect me and you will see.

If you guys elect him we may as well get rid of the internet and bring back steam cars, 8 tracks and vcr's.

- MindFr3eak

I am all for it if he brings back sega genesis and NHL 94 as the main console/game
MindFr3eak
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: strathvegas, ON
Joined: 01.18.2012

Sep 16 @ 12:06 PM ET
I am all for it if he brings back sega genesis and NHL 94 as the main console/game
- Symba007


As long as my work wage does not go retro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 16 @ 12:09 PM ET
In theory, sure. I can easily see a scenario where someone gets moved to a 2nd-tier market, the exchange rate goes to $1.12CN=$1US and the Canadian economy rolls over along with the U.S., and now the newly relocated team is losing even more money than it did in the U.S.
- Irish Blues[where it would now be in better shape, even if it was still losing money].

Owners decide where a team plays. No owner has the power to tell anyone else "you must move to ______ to suit my/our needs" and no owner is going to relocate his team to some other location without some kind of guarantee that he's not going to be worse off as a result.


When you are loosing (hemorrhaging) money I assure you on one is looking for guarantees. ATL moved to winterpeg with no guarantee.
Chip McCleary
St Louis Blues
Location: Madison, WI
Joined: 06.28.2008

Sep 16 @ 12:17 PM ET
When you are loosing (hemorrhaging) money I assure you on one is looking for guarantees. ATL moved to winterpeg with no guarantee.
- burn

Atlanta also moved to Winnipeg voluntarily. Put together a list of teams you think should move and the places in Canada they should be moved to, and I'll point out the ones that may not work out.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Sep 16 @ 12:18 PM ET
Gonchar and Malkin sign in KHL and there contracts run through to the end of the 2012-2013 season..So if a deal is reached are they commited to returning or can they stay and play out there contract with the KHL team? Is there any option for the players to do either?
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Sep 16 @ 12:25 PM ET
I am all for it if he brings back sega genesis and NHL 94 as the main console/game
- Symba007

Shotgun JR
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Sep 16 @ 12:26 PM ET
Gonchar and Malkin sign in KHL and there contracts run through to the end of the 2012-2013 season..So if a deal is reached are they commited to returning or can they stay and play out there contract with the KHL team? Is there any option for the players to do either?
- Buzzo

They almost always have opt out clauses to return. Even people who just didn't get an NHL deal in normal years have clauses to return if they are offered a deal.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 16 @ 12:27 PM ET
Atlanta also moved to Winnipeg voluntarily. Put together a list of teams you think should move and the places in Canada they should be moved to, and I'll point out the ones that may not work out.
- Irish Blues



I don't think any one was saying that there shouldn't be voluntary. If teams aren't making money, or at least close to break even (possibly profiting if they make the playoffs) then there should be some major consideration for relocation.

- PHX is front and center. It's taken how many years to find an owner?? Really? And now that they MIGHT have an owner it's still in question..... having to get extensions to find financing?? (that doesn't bode well for the future).... having to jump through hoops with the city ect. PHX is still a gigantic black spot on the NHL.


The Islanders have probably the worst/most decrepit building in the league and cannot figure out how to get a new one. If they can't figure it out (they cannot make it work without a new one) they need to move. Brooklyn? Kansas City?? Seattle?

there are no doubt others FLA made the payoffs and still lost money.


Places in Canada that COULD make it work?? GTA #2 (Markham approved the building of a new arena/entertainment), QUE want one back, there was talk that Kitchener-Waterloo would be viable and Hamilton has tried for years (Both K-WL and Hamilton were rumored as destinations for JBalls attempts at relocation.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Sep 16 @ 12:31 PM ET
I don't think any one was saying that there shouldn't be voluntary. If teams aren't making money, or at least close to break even (possibly profiting if they make the playoffs) then there should be some major consideration for relocation.

- PHX is front and center. It's taken how many years to find an owner?? Really? And now that they MIGHT have an owner it's still in question..... having to get extensions to find financing?? (that doesn't bode well for the future).... having to jump through hoops with the city ect. PHX is still a gigantic black spot on the NHL.


The Islanders have probably the worst/most decrepit building in the league and cannot figure out how to get a new one. If they can't figure it out (they cannot make it work without a new one) they need to move. Brooklyn? Kansas City?? Seattle?

there are no doubt others FLA made the payoffs and still lost money.


Places in Canada that COULD make it work?? GTA #2 (Markham approved the building of a new arena/entertainment), QUE want one back, there was talk that Kitchener-Waterloo would be viable and Hamilton has tried for years (Both K-WL and Hamilton were rumored as destinations for JBalls attempts at relocation.

- burn

If Phx moves the NBC deal is voided.

Hamilton is bigger than Buffalo and could easily support a team. Southern Ontario getting another team would boost league revenues and the cap to the point of crushing at least 3 more teams.
BurnabyBob
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 02.13.2007

Sep 16 @ 12:38 PM ET
There really is only one question. How long to we have to put up with Bettman?? How on earth it is that a bunch of multimillionaire owners cannot see that this guy is a joke is beyond me. I'd be willing to bet that not one of them would put up with him as one of their employees. So why do they let him control their investment?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 16 @ 12:38 PM ET
If Phx moves the NBC deal is voided.

Hamilton is bigger than Buffalo and could easily support a team. Southern Ontario getting another team would boost league revenues and the cap to the point of crushing at least 3 more teams.

- muffin_man



According to what?
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Sep 16 @ 12:40 PM ET
There really is only one question. How long to we have to put up with Bettman?? How on earth it is that a bunch of multimillionaire owners cannot see that this guy is a joke is beyond me. I'd be willing to bet that not one of them would put up with him as one of their employees. So why do they let him control their investment?
- BurnabyBob



You think the owners aren't a fan of Bettman? Bettman isn't the guy making these decisions.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Sep 16 @ 12:48 PM ET
Why can't everything just be 50/50?
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 12:51 PM ET
Can the politics talk. America will essentially remain the same no matter who is president...
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: It was 3-0, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 16 @ 12:53 PM ET
According to what?
- burn


it was a false rumour...


http://m.theglobeandmail....le4496245/?service=mobile

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: It was 3-0, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 16 @ 12:53 PM ET
Can the politics talk. America will essentially remain the same no matter who is president...
- Mr_Clean

Free mangos for everyone
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 12:53 PM ET
My response to lockout = apathy. Who can really be surprised? It's a culture of entitlement, the players feel entitled to more millions, as do the owners.

The fan is only an underlying assumption of the business model.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Sep 16 @ 12:55 PM ET

Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 12:58 PM ET


- pker2theend


I'm calling fake. There's no way Bettman lives in a bungalow.
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
Free mangos for everyone
- Symba007


Well I don't hear you coming up with any better policy alternatives, smart guy.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: It was 3-0, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:07 PM ET
Well I don't hear you coming up with any better policy alternatives, smart guy.
- Mr_Clean

Vote the Tea Party, make Tim Thomas the new President
Team_Teal
San Jose Sharks
Location: Benicia, CA
Joined: 04.15.2011

Sep 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
another reason to hate Obama?!?

The US is in big trouble unless we get a real President and Congress... which isnt going to happen anytime soon.

- SuperHenderson13

How about keeping your politics out of my hockey?
Thanks very much.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
According to what?
- burn

The contract they hold with the NHL. Well, not void but NBC would have the option to void it should they so choose.

edit: FU real Mr. Clean.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: It was 3-0, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
The contract they hold with the NHL. Well, not void but NBC would have the option to void it should they so choose.

edit: FU real Mr. Clean.

- muffin_man

JDJ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: "…it's no 'Free Agent Frenzy
Joined: 07.25.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
There really is only one question. How long to we have to put up with Bettman?? How on earth it is that a bunch of multimillionaire owners cannot see that this guy is a joke is beyond me. I'd be willing to bet that not one of them would put up with him as one of their employees. So why do they let him control their investment?
- BurnabyBob


How long?

As long as he wants the job.

He took the NHL from a $400M annual revenue league to a $3.3 Billion revenue league. Not to mention, the loads of cash he got owners from expansion team, and finally, a somewhat decent national TV deal.

That is why.
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