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canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Sep 7 @ 11:18 AM ET
Just no banning anyone got it
- kasperrko




Why else would I stick around here? For the riveting hockey talk? I just check in for your stories but lately you haven't been very exciting.

This site needs your brother back to bring life to these slow days.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 7 @ 11:25 AM ET
Why else would I stick around here? For the riveting hockey talk? I just check in for your stories but lately you haven't been very exciting.

This site needs your brother back to bring life to these slow days.

- canadianpenfan

There was a good spelling fight the other day...
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Sep 7 @ 11:26 AM ET
There was a good spelling fight the other day...
- Cptmjl



Those are always good. Have we figured out who's dad is the toughest yet?
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Sep 7 @ 11:31 AM ET
Wang is a nut job. Martin will be the next player alienated by his lunacy.
- Cptmjl



Wang is the biggest idiot, but Snow loves Matt Martin, and there is nothing going on, I think/believe Snow is waiting on the Viz hearing, bc if Viz is on the team, the Isles are closer to the cap floor, then with MM signing and bonuses, will reach the cap floor. If Viz is not on the team, then Snow has alot of salary cap to make up.
I do believe Snow & MM have an understanding/agreement with each other already.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 7 @ 11:36 AM ET
Those are always good. Have we figured out who's dad is the toughest yet?
- canadianpenfan

Yes we have. Mine of course.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Sep 7 @ 11:39 AM ET
Yes we have. Mine of course.
- Cptmjl


kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 7 @ 11:52 AM ET
Wang is the biggest idiot, but Snow loves Matt Martin, and there is nothing going on, I think/believe Snow is waiting on the Viz hearing, bc if Viz is on the team, the Isles are closer to the cap floor, then with MM signing and bonuses, will reach the cap floor. If Viz is not on the team, then Snow has alot of salary cap to make up.
I do believe Snow & MM have an understanding/agreement with each other already.

- Ur Not Me




Sounds great but there is no understanding other than this. Mat Martin led the entire NHL in hits and wants to get paid. The isles are cheap and dont wanna spend. Hence he's not signed. The only understanding is that they each feel MM is worth a different number. Don't forget his ELC
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:08 PM ET
Sounds great but there is no understanding other than this. Mat Martin led the entire NHL in hits and wants to get paid. The isles are cheap and dont wanna spend. Hence he's not signed. The only understanding is that they each feel MM is worth a different number. Don't forget his ELC
- kindlyrick



He led the league in hits.. a stat that doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot to anyone but the fans.

XxNYIxX
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:11 PM ET
These bunch of idiots are really going to screw up whatever momentum the NHL had as far as popularity goes. Same thing they did in 95' when the games popularity was at a all time high
- Cptmjl

There not going to lose the season...
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:17 PM ET
Furthermore, I love how Charles Wang likes to play hardball with his own players (if they don't sign by training camp they sit out the entire season) but lets guys like Nabokov, and viznovsky get away with publically embarrassing his team. Which is it wanger.....do we only play tough guy when it's convenient?
- kindlyrick

Why are people freaking out about Matt Martin not being signed yet? There isn't even a new CBA in place. The season isn't starting on time. Martin will be signed to a fair deal he and the team will agree on. He's an RFA, he's going nowhere. If Martin gets his panties all bunched up because he wasn't signed fast enough, then he needs to grow up and get over it. Its called "business".
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:23 PM ET
Sounds great but there is no understanding other than this. Mat Martin led the entire NHL in hits and wants to get paid. The isles are cheap and dont wanna spend. Hence he's not signed. The only understanding is that they each feel MM is worth a different number. Don't forget his ELC
- kindlyrick

I want to get paid too. That doesn't mean squat. You are worth what the market dictates and MM's market sucks because he's an RFA. He will become a UFA soon enough. I don't know how much anyone expects MM to see in a raise because he hits lots of people. That's great. But he skates on the fourth and sometimes third line for a reason. MM is a nice player, probably part of this team's core going forward. But he's got to be realistic as to what his value is and what his bargaining position is.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:27 PM ET
Why are people freaking out about Matt Martin not being signed yet? There isn't even a new CBA in place. The season isn't starting on time. Martin will be signed to a fair deal he and the team will agree on. He's an RFA, he's going nowhere. If Martin gets his panties all bunched up because he wasn't signed fast enough, then he needs to grow up and get over it. Its called "business".
- Jethro09



He actually isnt at all worried about the process.. but some fans on the other hand.. they see this as the ultimate disrespect.

XxNYIxX
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:31 PM ET
He led the league in hits.. a stat that doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot to anyone but the fans.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



You are clueless if you think that's meanigless. Then again you wear a Yashin sweater
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Sep 7 @ 12:32 PM ET
You are clueless if you think that's meanigless. Then again you wear a Yashin sweater
- kindlyrick



Hey now, play nice.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:33 PM ET
You are clueless if you think that's meanigless. Then again you wear a Yashin sweater
- kindlyrick

And the problem with that is...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 7 @ 12:33 PM ET
He led the league in hits.. a stat that doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot to anyone but the fans.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

I completely disagree with this.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:34 PM ET
You are clueless if you think that's meanigless. Then again you wear a Yashin sweater
- kindlyrick



No the Yashin jersey is hanging in the game room... and leading the league in hits really isn't that big a deal... sorry.


XxNYIxX
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Sep 7 @ 12:35 PM ET
Sounds great but there is no understanding other than this. Mat Martin led the entire NHL in hits and wants to get paid. The isles are cheap and dont wanna spend. Hence he's not signed. The only understanding is that they each feel MM is worth a different number. Don't forget his ELC
- kindlyrick



Leading the league in hits, does not merit on getting paid.
He has progressed as a player, and deserves a raise,
but he's not getting paid
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 7 @ 12:37 PM ET
He actually isnt at all worried about the process.. but some fans on the other hand.. they see this as the ultimate disrespect.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

I don't think most fans see it that way though you may perceive they do. After what happened with Bergenheim and Wang Chung fans are a little apprehensive about Martin and rightfully so. How do you know Martin isn't worried about the process? You throw it out there so I'll ask.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:37 PM ET
I want to get paid too. That doesn't mean squat. You are worth what the market dictates and MM's market sucks because he's an RFA. He will become a UFA soon enough. I don't know how much anyone expects MM to see in a raise because he hits lots of people. That's great. But he skates on the fourth and sometimes third line for a reason. MM is a nice player, probably part of this team's core going forward. But he's got to be realistic as to what his value is and what his bargaining position is.
- Jethro09



What are you talking about. The islanders are the softest team in the league. Matt Martin did his job and did it well. It's not his fault he was buried on the 4th line. He still went out and played the body every single game. To me, that should be rewarded with an extension. To me, you should reward your guy for setting an example. Who are they rewarding with extensions. Grabner, Okposo??? This is what gets extended? Guys who don't play the body?

You say, yeah it's great he plays the body, but should he get a raise because of that?
The answer Jethro is yes he should. Even if it's a multi year deal with a small monetary raise. He's part of the core. He's homegrown.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
Leading the league in hits, does not merit on getting paid.
He has progressed as a player, and deserves a raise,
but he's not getting paid

- Ur Not Me



Ok is it me or can you re read your post and tell me it wasn't one big contradiction?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
No the Yashin jersey is hanging in the game room... and leading the league in hits really isn't that big a deal... sorry.


XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

On a team that gets its nuts kicked in every night it is a very big deal. Why is Martin all of a sudden not a big deal anymore? Strange?
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
I don't think most fans see it that way though you may perceive they do. After what happened with Bergenheim and Wang Chung fans are a little apprehensive about Martin and rightfully so. How do you know Martin isn't worried about the process? You throw it out there so I'll ask.
- Cptmjl



Spoke to the man in July when I was out there.

XxNYIxX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 7 @ 12:40 PM ET
I want to get paid too. That doesn't mean squat. You are worth what the market dictates and MM's market sucks because he's an RFA. He will become a UFA soon enough. I don't know how much anyone expects MM to see in a raise because he hits lots of people. That's great. But he skates on the fourth and sometimes third line for a reason. MM is a nice player, probably part of this team's core going forward. But he's got to be realistic as to what his value is and what his bargaining position is.
- Jethro09

How do you know he's not?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 7 @ 12:41 PM ET
Spoke to the man in July when I was out there.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

Gotcha. Two months ago.
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