LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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prock
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Quebec is the only place in North America where Pepsi has traditionally outsold coke
I did not know this ![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - Big_Lightnin
And that's offensive to them??? LOL. |
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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awesome.. i hope they strike a deal.. wedgie and i have a bet on this - Dozzer
I can practically taste my virtual beer!
The PA's proposal is actually quite comical. Take a little break for three years, and then revert back to the old system.
2 things I find funny (bolded bits taken from Toronto Star):
The league, according to the players, could realize as much as $465 million in savings over that three-year period if the league continues to grow at an average rate.
Okay, let's do the math. First, divide by 3 - that's $155 million a year. Then divide by 30, that's just a little over 5 million per team per year. That's not going to do it for the owners. And then you revert back to the old system in year 4, which means salaries are going to jump astronomically.
In addition, a plan for “more aggressive” revenue sharing among the league’s 30 teams could bring in an additional $250 million a year, the players say.
No, it doesn't bring in another dime - really lazy reporting (I've seen this in a few different newspapers). That $250 million a year will just be a re-distribution from the Leafs, Habs, Rangers and Flyers to the Panthers, Coyotes and Blue Jackets.
That one will be interesting - can't see the owners accepting the NHLPA's proposal on that. If revenue sharing is going to be increased, it will come from the owners, not the NHLPA. Stupid turf war, but there you have it.
No games on Oct 11th. |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Bieksa#3
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I don't believe that is correct. - Big_Lightnin
Alright, I was going to say I know there have been times in the past where a player has played for one country and then another |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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but I know he's not French so it's ok.
wait... that's not how that works is it ![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - Big_Lightnin
Well..technically I am half French Canadian but ......meh! |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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And that's offensive to them??? LOL. - prock
It's a class thing. few explanations on earlier pages. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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How long has this been a rule? Just recently? - Bieksa#3
As is always the case, Vancouver fans know nothing about hockey, and have to come into Leafs threads to get edumacated.
http://www.iihf.com/home-...ips/iihf-eligibility.html
No need to thank me - just send Luongo over here for Komi, D'Amigo and a 3rd. |
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prock
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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I bet you are. - hscesq
Would you find being labelled as someone who likes Pepsi offensive? I don't get it. |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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Alright, I was going to say I know there have been times in the past where a player has played for one country and then another - Bieksa#3
yup. Can't think who off top of my head, but I remember it being said on broadcasts. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Well..technically I am half French Canadian but ......meh! - Fakepartofme
It must make taking the Pepsi challenge very difficult for you. |
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oh fine.. tomato tomato
racism extends to culture tho imo.. and the french are indeed their own culture
and i am not saying culturism - Dozzer
why are you confining us to a different culture than your own!? Were not good enough to be considered a part of what ever fancy culture you consider yourself to be within!?
No worries...I get it. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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yup. Can't think who off top of my head, but I remember it being said on broadcasts. - Big_Lightnin
Petr Nedved played for three different countries. |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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yup. Can't think who off top of my head, but I remember it being said on broadcasts. - Big_Lightnin
Peter Stastny but this was before the rules took place
edit: Czechoslovakia, Canada & Slovakia |
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Bieksa#3
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As is always the case, Vancouver fans know nothing about hockey, and have to come into Leafs threads to get edumacated.
http://www.iihf.com/home-...ips/iihf-eligibility.html
No need to thank me - just send Luongo over here for Komi, D'Amigo and a 3rd. - Atomic Wedgie
Please explain Per Nedved
Clearly it has not always been the rule.
All I did was ask |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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I can practically taste my virtual beer!
The PA's proposal is actually quite comical. Take a little break for three years, and then revert back to the old system.
2 things I find funny (bolded bits taken from Toronto Star):
The league, according to the players, could realize as much as $465 million in savings over that three-year period if the league continues to grow at an average rate.
Okay, let's do the math. First, divide by 3 - that's $155 million a year. Then divide by 30, that's just a little over 5 million per team per year. That's not going to do it for the owners. And then you revert back to the old system in year 4, which means salaries are going to jump astronomically.
In addition, a plan for “more aggressive” revenue sharing among the league’s 30 teams could bring in an additional $250 million a year, the players say.
No, it doesn't bring in another dime - really lazy reporting (I've seen this in a few different newspapers). That $250 million a year will just be a re-distribution from the Leafs, Habs, Rangers and Flyers to the Panthers, Coyotes and Blue Jackets.
That one will be interesting - can't see the owners accepting the NHLPA's proposal on that. If revenue sharing is going to be increased, it will come from the owners, not the NHLPA. Stupid turf war, but there you have it.
No games on Oct 11th. - Atomic Wedgie
however there is one massive flaw to your logic.
if they werent close there is no way the owners go back to the table with them today.
no chance in hell.
the owners must be at least open to structuring it this way
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Would you find being labelled as someone who likes Pepsi offensive? I don't get it. - prock
Sorry for breaking it, but nobody in here gets it either. |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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Please explain Per Nedved
Clearly it has not always been the rule.
All I did was ask - Bieksa#3
nothing in there says they can't |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Please explain Per Nedved
Clearly it has not always been the rule.
All I did was ask - Bieksa#3
What about Petr Nedved would you like me to explain? |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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yup. Can't think who off top of my head, but I remember it being said on broadcasts. - Big_Lightnin
found this on the IIHF site.
To play in the IIHF World Championship, the Olympic ice hockey tournament and the qualifications to these competitions, players must fulfill the following qualification requirements:
Each player must be under the jurisdiction of an IIHF member national association.
Each player must be a citizen of the country he represents.
Acquiring a new national eligibility (The ‘two-year’ case)When a player has changed his citizenship or has acquired another citizenship and wants to participate for the first time in an IIHF competition representing his new country he must:
Prove that he has participated for at least two consecutive years in the national competitions of his new country during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other country.
Have an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national competition of his new country and which was approved and dated at least two years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate.
Change of national eligibility (The ‘four-year’ case)A player, who has previously participated in IIHF competition, can switch national eligibility (but only once in a player's life) if:
He is a citizen of the new country of his choice
He has participated for at least four consecutive years in the national competitions of his new country, during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other country and has not played for his previous country in an IIHF competition during this four year period.
He has an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national competition of his new country and which was approved and dated at least four years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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however there is one massive flaw to your logic.
if they werent close there is no way the owners go back to the table with them today.
no chance in hell.
the owners must be at least open to structuring it this way - Dozzer
Close?
This is the PA's first counter proposal that's all.
Dont read too much into the meeting. It's just logistics. |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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nothing in there says they can't - Big_Lightnin
Alright, so burns rant about only playing for one country is about as well thought out as the rest of his posts? |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Sorry for breaking it, but nobody in here gets it either. - Le_Moderateur
Gives me some good material next time I go to Montreal though. |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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Alright, so burns rant about only playing for one country is about as well thought out as the rest of his posts? - Bieksa#3
no comment
but ya he's wrong |
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