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robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 9 @ 9:28 AM ET
What's that?

Finish in the bottom 3 for the last decade? At least you're content with that.


- Powerslave



Yeah well, Sabres havent been to the Cup finals in over 100 years.


What's your point?
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Aug 9 @ 9:34 AM ET
Yeah well, Sabres havent been to the Cup finals in over 100 years.


What's your point?

- robin_steele264

By 100, do you mean 13?
Cause Dallas beat them in the finals in 1999...
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 9 @ 9:42 AM ET
By 100, do you mean 13?
Cause Dallas beat them in the finals in 1999...

- BoBBeR56



Just going by his math.


Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 9 @ 9:45 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: An Oilers/Sabres Deal: Take a Stab at It
- Maxbone

Yawn.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 9:56 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: An Oilers/Sabres Deal: Take a Stab at It
- Maxbone


CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 9 @ 9:59 AM ET
very good read Richard.

I can see this being a trade Buffalo would look at, but not one that I truly would want. I like Gagner, but if they bring him in, who becomes that shutdown center for Buffalo, Ville Leino? Eager would be some nice added toughness. Eager-McCormick-Kaleta would be a fabulous 4th line
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 10:01 AM ET
Thats because Im awesome.

I like that only a select few of us will know the significance of the alt. makes me feel like a member of some special club.

A guy I work with invited me to a masons meeting. stoked.

- GuyLaDouche


So you got invited to the gay version of the Green Lantern fan club.

#lolz
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 10:05 AM ET
Falcon PUNCH...
- HouseArrest187


If you're going to do it... at least do it right...

BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Aug 9 @ 10:06 AM ET
I'm starting to get the sense that Cloutier believes there are '6 "untouchables" on the Oilers roster: Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov, Justin Schultz and Oscar Klefbom'
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 10:14 AM ET
I'm starting to get the sense that Cloutier believes there are '6 "untouchables" on the Oilers roster: Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov, Justin Schultz and Oscar Klefbom'
- BestRapperAlive


My take on the deal...

What did Eklund say: Oilers were offering up a "young star" Top 6 center and a 3rd line prospect player who has Top 6 potential. The Sabres in return would send a "significant" defenseman and an additional prospect (perhaps Enroth).

Edmonton - Sekera & Enroth

Buffalo - Gagner & Hartikainen

It's the only deal that makes sense based on Eklund's quote. I'm not saying it will happen or that I like it, but it does make the most sense.
Jacob582
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.06.2012

Aug 9 @ 10:19 AM ET
as for the Gretzky reference, it may have played out like a trade but in reality it was a sale. please, never reference that dark day again.
- GuyLaDouche


They sold Gretzky 24 years ago today.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 9 @ 10:26 AM ET
Got back my assignment, and the prof says that I'm the only student in his class he wouldn't fire if we were all working for him. How (frank)ing cool am I?
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Aug 9 @ 10:27 AM ET
Just going by his math.



- robin_steele264

Oh, my bad...
I got ya now...its too early, lol...
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Aug 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
Got back my assignment, and the prof says that I'm the only student in his class he wouldn't fire if we were all working for him. How (frank)ing cool am I?
- laughs2907

What class?
Jacob582
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.06.2012

Aug 9 @ 10:31 AM ET
the only question as to why he dropped out of the top-10 is: what the hell was toronto thinking?
- b0s0o1


Grigorenko was the 4th forward selected this year.

Eberle was the 11th forward selected in 2008.

It's all about potential. You never know how it is going to work out when drafting 18 year old kids.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
What class?
- BoBBeR56


Strategic Management. We basically do case assignments where we play the role of managers in struggling companies, and we indicate how we'd go about fixing things. The prof is still a zorch though... He usually treats everyone like garbage.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 9 @ 10:39 AM ET
Grigorenko was the 4th forward selected this year.

Eberle was the 11th forward selected in 2008.

It's all about potential. You never know how it is going to work out when drafting 18 year old kids.

- Jacob582


I think a lot of teams are going to end up kicking themselves for not taking Grigorenko.
jkuczkowski
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Who cares?, NY
Joined: 02.15.2012

Aug 9 @ 11:02 AM ET
Just taking a stab in the dark here: If the Sabres get Gagner for Sekera (and whatever comes and goes with it) I believe it is only to provide Anaheim with a second line center in a trade for Bobby Ryan (Regier won't part with Ennis). The Ducks signed two D-men and don't need the Sabres surplus of D-men but do need a second line center. Sabres pick up Gagner, package him with Stafford (or other player) and a pick for Bobby Ryan.
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Aug 9 @ 11:04 AM ET
I totally agree with you here. but just so you know, its "Myers" not "Meyers". to get Myers edmonton has to part with at least hall
- jbrylinsabres

Was thinking about my hotdogs last name.
SPIbanez
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.12.2010

Aug 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
I agree. Not sure that is a major deal. The only major defenseman that buffalo has is Myers. Deal is probably gagner and hartikainen for Myers and a prospect. Richard just won't put hartikainen in any potential deal because of the man crush he has for him.
- oilcountrysask

as much as i like the sounds of theiving from the sbres there is no way in H.*.L.L
that we would get tyler myers for anything less than 1 of the oilers stars. eberle, hall, nuge, yakupov. for buffalo to pull the trigger on Myers for gagner and harti they would have to be on some seriously wild drugs. the end.
rayzablades2
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Miami, FL
Joined: 04.24.2011

Aug 9 @ 11:38 AM ET
In case anybody was interested about why Luongo hasn't been traded... http://realhockeynews.com...th-gillis-on-trade-talks/
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Aug 9 @ 11:39 AM ET
The real question is, what are every ones real thoughts on Sam Gagner? I really don't think we discuss him enough.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Aug 9 @ 11:47 AM ET
erhoff has a ntc. buffalo is looking for a 3rd line center.
vanek coho pommer
foligno ennis stafford
leino ? ott
gerbe mccormick kaleta

i honestly think buffalo is looking to trade with philly because we have a ton of defenseman and in return we are looking at either briere or talbot. leino briere hartnell line in philly was a good line, buffalo might look to mimmick or the may just want talbot's toughness and youth and cheap contract.

- joshs


Ott can play center... and he's pretty damn good at it
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Aug 9 @ 11:49 AM ET
My take on the deal...

What did Eklund say: Oilers were offering up a "young star" Top 6 center and a 3rd line prospect player who has Top 6 potential. The Sabres in return would send a "significant" defenseman and an additional prospect (perhaps Enroth).

Edmonton - Sekera & Enroth

Buffalo - Gagner & Hartikainen

It's the only deal that makes sense based on Eklund's quote. I'm not saying it will happen or that I like it, but it does make the most sense.

- Reveen


could be PRV as well.
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Aug 9 @ 12:09 PM ET
Strategic Management. We basically do case assignments where we play the role of managers in struggling companies, and we indicate how we'd go about fixing things. The prof is still a zorch though... He usually treats everyone like garbage.
- laughs2907

Ha ha ha...profs like that make me laugh...try to belittle students that are learning...
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