i know it took some time to write this .. I'm sorry for that

but i said it was a joke 3 times
- gerbe75pts

I'm familiar with your female relatives.



Well done though.
- robin_steele264

Tis a shame you cant say the same... Ohhhhh!!!!

wow... intelligent...

RNH isn't going anywhere, Hall is not a center. seriously come on here.

the obvious 3rd line guess is Paajarvi,

also he said significant d-man, not star. and a prospect or possibly Enroth who would fit in as a nice split with dubey but where does that leave habby?

It would be nice if Buffalo took habbys contract and gave us McNabb another regina boy for eberle to and a big body that fits our timeline but more likely Regehr. the question is would you trade habbys contract (was the best in the league for the first 15 games last year but appears more useless and overpaid now)Gagner(mr 8 pts in a game), Paajarvi (with a great first season and then sophomore slump should be much better this year, solid 2nd line in my books) for Enroth (solid #2 goalie to share the load with dubey and a prospect for a prospect trade for paajarvi with edm losing out on this) Regehr (5 points and -12 in 76 games last season for over 4 mill? talk about a bad contract. time he moves on and Oil can take him and use him... a bit. this is a swap for bad contracts) and then it becomes Gagner and the bad end of Paajarvi for Enroth and the bad end of habby for Regehr for who? Edmonton needs a top 2 line center and Buffalo drafted 2 new top 3 centers, the only question is who is coming to Edmonton? given gagner's recent 8 pt night, 47pt season he is a young all heart player, guaranteed to be a good top 6 center because he already is. obviously I would love grigorenko but lets look a the possible options:
Buffalo is now overstocked at Center with Ott, Leino, McCormick, Hodgson, Grigorenko, Grigensons, Porter, etc all chanllenging for 4 roster spots. lets say Grigorenko becomes the new #1 he is expected to, Grigersons takes the 4rd line, Hodgson takes 3rd and newly aquired Gagner takes the number 2 line. obviously many flaws but bear with me. That leaves all 4 centers (yes trades and such made more space but the point is still valid) from last year out in the cold, so take your pick. Edmonton needs a big solid playmaking 2 way center for the second line between Yakupov and potentially Hemsky or Hall (Hemmer will need to move left or be traded as with Eberle and Yakupov the skilled top 2 line right wings are full up) just give us Grigorenko and be done with it, Gagner is a proven, young, still developing heart and soul guy not projected as good as Girgorenko but with the other 2 guys it makes up for it and the key word is still `projected`. At least it makes more sense than saying Hall or RNH.
- wonka

Paragraphs, anyone?

What makes you think that all four will be making 7.5 million? And won't Hall be worth a lot more in a trade when he's worth 7 million contract dollars than he is right now?
- Morris

Because 3 of them are 1st overall, and not to mention because of retarded GM's who offer insane money in offer sheets, players agents sit and wait to see if their client can cash in this way too. So to sign your 3 1st overall players you got to offer up big money or someone else will. LOL and because its Hilarious if your were any of those players agents wouldn't you say, YA, but look what you payed for Horcoff and my client is 100x better

Paragraphs, anyone?
- MaximumBone

Table of contents and index, too, if we're asking favors?

- FLYERSROCK!

what up bro

So basically if this rumor is true the Sabres would be after either Nuge or Gagner. And since it's highly unlikely that the Oilers would even consider trading Nuge, Gagner is the likely target. If this is the case I don't see a real reason to trade away much for Gagner. He'd be a third line center for the Sabres this season.
- BuffSabs88

Pretty much. The only addendum would be that Gagner can play on the wing (usually RW) to equal success as he has at centre. If the Oilers were putting Gagner and Gagner alone in a proposal, we wouldn't expect a ton. Sekera has been bandied about for ages. Those could be the big pieces in a trade, but I don't know what would need to be added further.

what up bro
- gerbe75pts

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Because 3 of them are 1st overall, and not to mention because of retarded GM's who offer insane money in offer sheets, players agents sit and wait to see if their client can cash in this way too. So to sign your 3 1st overall players you got to offer up big money or someone else will. LOL and because its Hilarious if your were any of those players agents wouldn't you say, YA, but look what you payed for Horcoff and my client is 100x better
- Buffalo10-2

I don't really think there's much of a precedent for that. There are a lot of teams that have signed players to terrible contracts only to later sign players to quite reasonable contracts.

Also, what you're proposing is that someone will make a unprecedentedly large and unprecedentedly early offer sheet next off-season? I just don't see it. Too much of a risk for a guy like Hall who will have played three seasons, scored 50, 60 and 60 and not played more than 75 games a season.

Look at the numbers that Stamkos, Kane, Johnson and Tavares got coming out of their ELCs. You're proposing that all three of Hall, Nuge and Yakupov will be at Stamkos level? No chance. What would Hall have to do to get 7.5 next summer, put up 200 points??

Last year your top center had 44 pts, Gagner had 47pts on the year. yes one simple stat doesnt show everything but he brings a lot more as well and I would doubt very much he would drop to the 3rd line
- wonka

Oh I know Gagner is capable of being a top six player, but he wouldn't be one on the Sabres. Hodgson and Ennis are already penciled in for the top two centers and I don't think there's any way he beats out one of them for it. He wouldn't be dropping to the 3rd line, he would be placed on it as soon as he got here.

- gerbe75pts

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- gerbe75pts

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- FLYERSROCK!

where are u going ?

wow... intelligent...

RNH isn't going anywhere, Hall is not a center. seriously come on here.

the obvious 3rd line guess is Paajarvi,

also he said significant d-man, not star. and a prospect or possibly Enroth who would fit in as a nice split with dubey but where does that leave habby?

It would be nice if Buffalo took habbys contract and gave us McNabb another regina boy for eberle to and a big body that fits our timeline but more likely Regehr. the question is would you trade habbys contract (was the best in the league for the first 15 games last year but appears more useless and overpaid now)Gagner(mr 8 pts in a game), Paajarvi (with a great first season and then sophomore slump should be much better this year, solid 2nd line in my books) for Enroth (solid #2 goalie to share the load with dubey and a prospect for a prospect trade for paajarvi with edm losing out on this) Regehr (5 points and -12 in 76 games last season for over 4 mill? talk about a bad contract. time he moves on and Oil can take him and use him... a bit. this is a swap for bad contracts) and then it becomes Gagner and the bad end of Paajarvi for Enroth and the bad end of habby for Regehr for who? Edmonton needs a top 2 line center and Buffalo drafted 2 new top 3 centers, the only question is who is coming to Edmonton? given gagner's recent 8 pt night, 47pt season he is a young all heart player, guaranteed to be a good top 6 center because he already is. obviously I would love grigorenko but lets look a the possible options:
Buffalo is now overstocked at Center with Ott, Leino, McCormick, Hodgson, Grigorenko, Grigensons, Porter, etc all chanllenging for 4 roster spots. lets say Grigorenko becomes the new #1 he is expected to, Grigersons takes the 4rd line, Hodgson takes 3rd and newly aquired Gagner takes the number 2 line. obviously many flaws but bear with me. That leaves all 4 centers (yes trades and such made more space but the point is still valid) from last year out in the cold, so take your pick. Edmonton needs a big solid playmaking 2 way center for the second line between Yakupov and potentially Hemsky or Hall (Hemmer will need to move left or be traded as with Eberle and Yakupov the skilled top 2 line right wings are full up) just give us Grigorenko and be done with it, Gagner is a proven, young, still developing heart and soul guy not projected as good as Girgorenko but with the other 2 guys it makes up for it and the key word is still `projected`. At least it makes more sense than saying Hall or RNH.
- wonka

Buffalo is not overstocked at center. Ott and Leino are not centers, McCormick is a fourth liner, Porter is an AHLer, and Grigorenko and Girgensons will not be NHL ready, IMO, for this year. Basically Buffalo's centers for this year consist of Hodgson, Ennis, McCormick, Ellis, and unfortunately, Leino, but that is not his natural position.

OK this is for all the Buffalo fans. The fact is Eklund says there is a young top 6 Center. On the Edm roster, that gives you Hopkins and Gagner. Hopkins is not going anywhere, so that leaves Gagner. If he's moved, there will be another Center coming back, as there's nobody in the Oilers system that can step in there anytime soon, if ever. If they're looking at moving him, it'll be for a bigger Center, likely in a package deal.

Consider this Sabres fans: maybe a deal like this goes through, with one of Grigorenko or Girgensons going back to Edm. Obviously there's more pieces, likely a Dman to Edm and a winger to Buffalo. At the same time, Buffalo works a deal for Bobby Ryan, sending CoHo the other way; or maybe does something nuts and brings Patty Kane home. Then you've suddenly got a use for Gagner don't ya?
- BarDownBobo

I would never want Gagner if I had to give up either Grigorenko or Girgensons when both of them in my eyes are projeced to have much more prolific careers than Gagner. Sorry Gagner is only worth Sekera in the real world that we live in TODAY.

Oh I know Gagner is capable of being a top six player, but he wouldn't be one on the Sabres. Hodgson and Ennis are already penciled in for the top two centers and I don't think there's any way he beats out one of them for it. He wouldn't be dropping to the 3rd line, he would be placed on it as soon as he got here.
- BuffSabs88

Ah yes, as much as I would love girgorenko I would suspect Ennis would be a more likely target (and equally unlikely) making room for him on the 2nd... but that leaves Grigorenko who I would bet can challenge for a top 2 line slot so Either way it seems your right, and he would be Right wing in that case.

Buffalo is not overstocked at center. Ott and Leino are not centers, McCormick is a fourth liner, Porter is an AHLer, and Grigorenko and Girgensons will not be NHL ready, IMO, for this year. Basically Buffalo's centers for this year consist of Hodgson, Ennis, McCormick, Ellis, and unfortunately, Leino, but that is not his natural position.
- BuffSabs88

From what I witnessed at camp and scrimmages , Girgensons might be ready sooner than most think !

I fear to many of you live in a far away fantasy world if you honestly think we are moving either Grigorenko and especially Girgensons for Gagner ? .

Just isnt happening!!

Pretty much. The only addendum would be that Gagner can play on the wing (usually RW) to equal success as he has at centre. If the Oilers were putting Gagner and Gagner alone in a proposal, we wouldn't expect a ton. Sekera has been bandied about for ages. Those could be the big pieces in a trade, but I don't know what would need to be added further.
- Morris

Would you guys do Eberle for Myers straight up? That's interesting.

During the season the Sabres turned down Myers for Getzlaf straight up.

I don't really think there's much of a precedent for that. There are a lot of teams that have signed players to terrible contracts only to later sign players to quite reasonable contracts.

Also, what you're proposing is that someone will make a unprecedentedly large and unprecedentedly early offer sheet next off-season? I just don't see it. Too much of a risk for a guy like Hall who will have played three seasons, scored 50, 60 and 60 and not played more than 75 games a season.

Look at the numbers that Stamkos, Kane, Johnson and Tavares got coming out of their ELCs. You're proposing that all three of Hall, Nuge and Yakupov will be at Stamkos level? No chance. What would Hall have to do to get 7.5 next summer, put up 200 points??
- Morris

well thats where i said 6-7.5. I know you take the highest number but 7.5 would only happen in a offer sheet. And dont forget gagner and eberle are RFA the same year. But who knows what the contracts will look like with the new CBA in place. maybe 7 mill for Hall won't be so far fetch. 3-5 years at 7 Mill? My main point tho is they all will command big contracts and will the 4 of them be worth it or should they trade one to get better on D and in goal?

To (frank) your mom up her ass.
- FLYERSROCK!

On behalf of Mrs 75pts, I say that's outta line

Would you guys do Eberle for Myers straight up? That's interesting.

During the season the Sabres turned down Myers for Getzlaf straight up.
- dacks

Eberle is probably the most untouchable player on the Oilers. Hes their franchise.

From what I witnessed at camp and scrimmages , Girgensons might be ready sooner than most think !
- TerryPegs

Yeah but the thing with the development camps is that those players are going against most other players who are in the same position - not yet NHL ready. There's a vast difference between playing with fellow prospects than playing with NHL players.