jimmc7722
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Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON Joined: 02.06.2008
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relax man...you come out swinging what do you expect in return? - Sam67
Actually you started it... |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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Blowing it up, means moving all current(older) assets, ultimately meaning not having a strong enough team to compete beyond last place...or...setting yourself up for a high draft pick.
Feaster wont be blowing things up. He may move a few assets if they can aid in his vision for the team, but he wont be having any yard sales.
Im sure most fans who attend games agree, albeit a longer and possibly rougher road, trying to remain competitiving while retooling is more entertaining than a fire sale to get high draft picks and waiting 4-5 years to compete again.
"Blowing it up" as it were, is no guaranteed way to succeed.
Show me how said teams, "blew" things up. Developing and strengthening through the draft is one thing, having a fire sale leading to a tanked couple of seasons, is another. - Colin Dambrauskas
Colin,
I will respectfully disagree!
My company has season tickets to both the Flames and Oilers and I have attended about 10-12 of each over the last 4-5 years. The Flames games are BORING. Most times we end up just going up to the Whiskey or to the AY Club and have some drinks. The Oilers games, even though they have stunk it up the last few years are far more fun to go to. Even when they lose the team could excite you and entertain you.
Just my opinoin of course. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Not @ all... just trying to help.
Pretty ignorant of you to say that... - jimmc7722
Very odd that you choose @ instead of at. Isn't it the same amount of key strokes? |
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wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Get Real - JDJ Joined: 07.13.2010
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Whats the Yak comment? - Oilfan19
Guy said he would score 30 goals next year.
I said no he won't. |
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vancity787
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: My Parents Basement, BC Joined: 07.14.2008
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Everybody knows they should have blown up the roster and started the rebuild.
Unfortunately... when they do realize it, their main trade pieces will be too old. - jimmc7722
This, this and this. |
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numbear
Calgary Flames |
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.24.2011
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I would call the wideman signing a near horrendous move.. - pbrsimps
its the NMC that makes it that. otherwise its on par with what happened this summer and did fix a weakness on the team as well as possibly open on an opportunity to move a big contract at a time that it could get a good return |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Guy said he would score 30 goals next year.
I said no he won't. - wolfos412
30 isn't far fetched if he's healthy. |
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Sam67
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 12.03.2006
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Actually you started it... - jimmc7722
Ok, i started it, lets just hug it out and maybe find some common ground in agreeing that both of our teams have been less than stellar for more than a few years. |
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13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.29.2006
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"Since joining the Flames organization in 2010, Feaster has yet to make any moves that have impacted the team significantly"
I think that says it all. For a team that was in the position that Calgary was in when he came in, I think fans have a right to expect some significant changes. If he's just gonna keep it status quo, why even bother getting rid of Sutter in the first place? There's nothing worse for a fan than their team not being successful while not doing anything about it. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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"Since joining the Flames organization in 2010, Feaster has yet to make any moves that have impacted the team significantly"
I think that says it all. For a team that was in the position that Calgary was in when he came in, I think fans have a right to expect some significant changes. If he's just gonna keep it status quo, why even bother getting rid of Sutter in the first place? There's nothing worse for a fan than their team not being successful while not doing anything about it. - 13sundin13
Doing nothing got us RNH and Yak |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Trading Iggy and Kipper would be blowing it up.
The Sens got lucky they drafted a player who is considered the best offensive dman in over a decade. - wolfos412
how can you say they got lucky?sometimes good drafting is just good drafting and not pure luck. |
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jtommyt
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 08.02.2007
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Colin,
I will respectfully disagree!
My company has season tickets to both the Flames and Oilers and I have attended about 10-12 of each over the last 4-5 years. The Flames games are BORING. Most times we end up just going up to the Whiskey or to the AY Club and have some drinks. The Oilers games, even though they have stunk it up the last few years are far more fun to go to. Even when they lose the team could excite you and entertain you.
Just my opinoin of course. - Iggysbff
I'd argue that had a lot more to do with the coaching system then the player makeup of the team.
I'll agree that there were some incredibly boring games the last few years, but there were some good ones too.
I think that Feaster's efforts to make the team younger, as well as bringing in more offense and hockey sense will pay off, not only in entertainment value, but in results as well. |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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"Since joining the Flames organization in 2010, Feaster has yet to make any moves that have impacted the team significantly"
I think that says it all. For a team that was in the position that Calgary was in when he came in, I think fans have a right to expect some significant changes. If he's just gonna keep it status quo, why even bother getting rid of Sutter in the first place? There's nothing worse for a fan than their team not being successful while not doing anything about it. - 13sundin13
i could see "re-tool" being the way to go with a top-10 NHL team. but to re-tool a team that has been treading just beneath the "mediocre" line the past 5 years seems foolish. |
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Sam67
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 12.03.2006
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how can you say they got lucky?sometimes good drafting is just good drafting and not pure luck. - DoubleDown
Couldn't it be considered lucky for any draft pick.
You make the pick based on their juinior or college resume but by and large it's all a crap shoot.....see Alexandre Daigle as a prime example.
Or any first round draft pick by the flames in the late 90's and early 2000's |
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numbear
Calgary Flames |
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.24.2011
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"Since joining the Flames organization in 2010, Feaster has yet to make any moves that have impacted the team significantly"
I think that says it all. For a team that was in the position that Calgary was in when he came in, I think fans have a right to expect some significant changes. If he's just gonna keep it status quo, why even bother getting rid of Sutter in the first place? There's nothing worse for a fan than their team not being successful while not doing anything about it. - 13sundin13
I think all these were pretty significant changes, and gambles that shifted from what sutter had put in place
- moving regher
- letting jokinen go, replacing with cervenka
- signing wideman, hudler
- cammelleri trade
- trading a 1st for a 2nd and getting Janowski
- new coach
Besides regher and the draft swap this year. On paper they were all moves that corrected team weaknesses. If they don't pan out this year or show they are helping, we will lose iggy and THEN Feaster is going to be burned in effigy |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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I'd argue that had a lot more to do with the coaching system then the player makeup of the team.
I'll agree that there were some incredibly boring games the last few years, but there were some good ones too.
I think that Feaster's efforts to make the team younger, as well as bringing in more offense and hockey sense will pay off, not only in entertainment value, but in results as well. - jtommyt
I blame the Dome, its a pretty dull place to watch a game no matter the team. |
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jtommyt
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 08.02.2007
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"Since joining the Flames organization in 2010, Feaster has yet to make any moves that have impacted the team significantly"
I think that says it all. For a team that was in the position that Calgary was in when he came in, I think fans have a right to expect some significant changes. If he's just gonna keep it status quo, why even bother getting rid of Sutter in the first place? There's nothing worse for a fan than their team not being successful while not doing anything about it. - 13sundin13
This summer he actually did make some changes. Wideman, Hudler and Cervenka coming in, Olli, TKO, and Moss moving out... These are moves that will impact the team. Whether they're good moves or not remains to be seen. But he's finally making changes.
If JBo's traded that's an even bigger impact. We'll have to wait and see on that one though. |
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jimmc7722
New York Islanders |
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Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON Joined: 02.06.2008
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Very odd that you choose @ instead of at. Isn't it the same amount of key strokes? - Lahey
Yes... but I feel like the cool kids when I do this!!!
Same with using 3 !!! after every sentence... it makes my opinions look important!!! |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Yes... but I feel like the cool kids when I do this!!!
Same with using 3 !!! after every sentence... it makes my opinions look important!!! - jimmc7722
or that you are off your ritalin |
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jtommyt
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 08.02.2007
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I blame the Dome, its a pretty dull place to watch a game no matter the team. - DDM-Coga
That's not completely true. They just need something to cheer for. Last year the game against Jersey where we jumped out to the 4-0 lead, and the game where Iggy scored his 500th the Dome was as loud as I've ever heard it...
A boring system makes it hard for the fans to find a reason to cheer. |
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Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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Guy said he would score 30 goals next year.
I said no he won't. - wolfos412
I say he comes close.. Hallsy was near it in his rookie year. |
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scubasteve
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Ek: A lot happening .. Stay tu, SK Joined: 12.05.2007
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"Since joining the Flames organization in 2010, Feaster has yet to make any moves that have impacted the team significantly"
I think that says it all. For a team that was in the position that Calgary was in when he came in, I think fans have a right to expect some significant changes. If he's just gonna keep it status quo, why even bother getting rid of Sutter in the first place? There's nothing worse for a fan than their team not being successful while not doing anything about it. - 13sundin13
Unfortunately for Feaster and his critics who want him to tear it apart, the former GM gave all the key pieces NMC's or NTC's. With that said, if these guys don't wanna go, they don't have to go. That leaves him with nothing to trade for all these prospects and picks that everyone who wants it blown up thinks we should be picking up. Feaster can only work with the cards he's been dealt, and perhaps plan ahead to when his hands really aren't tied up by Sutter's insanity. Like it or not, the major players on this team hold the power and that's not Feater's fault. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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I'd argue that had a lot more to do with the coaching system then the player makeup of the team.
I'll agree that there were some incredibly boring games the last few years, but there were some good ones too.
I think that Feaster's efforts to make the team younger, as well as bringing in more offense and hockey sense will pay off, not only in entertainment value, but in results as well. - jtommyt
The biggest thing is did Feaster do enough to get better in the division?
Van is Van I don't think anyone is touching them this year, unless Lou is dealt and Schneider just poops the bed.
Then you have Minny who was nine back of CGY last year, they on paper made moves to be the most improved team.
You then have COL who were two back of CGY last year and they made some changes.
And finally you got the Oil who can win some games next year.
Did CGY do enough to be able to keep up with the division? You need to be able to do well in the division to make the playoffs, just don't know that CGY has done enough to get results. |
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Colin,
I will respectfully disagree!
My company has season tickets to both the Flames and Oilers and I have attended about 10-12 of each over the last 4-5 years. The Flames games are BORING. Most times we end up just going up to the Whiskey or to the AY Club and have some drinks. The Oilers games, even though they have stunk it up the last few years are far more fun to go to. Even when they lose the team could excite you and entertain you.
Just my opinoin of course. - Iggysbff
Slight bias perhaps? |
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Yak will not get 30 goals, sure he's a #1 pick but to say he's going to walk into the NHL and score 30 goals in his first year is a bold statement. There's only been like 7 people in NHL history to do that at his age. - wolfos412
i honestly think he will |
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