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wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:02 PM ET
Rather easy on the hate. He should rebuild entirely when he has the chance. I think most people expected when Sutter was sacked that Feaster would come in with a demolitions crew instead of plateau and do nothing. I guess his greatest accomplishment thus far was not being dumb enough to trade their first rounders.
- AdamFrench


It's what any GM should do when signed to a new failing team. Evaluate, and most of the time blow it up. Teams like Calgary aren't making the playoffs, their best players are close to their oldest and the cupboards were bare. Why not blow it up, trade your aging stars get picks/ prospects, draft high.

Toronto was similar when Burke took over, there best player was an aging Sundin who was still a PPG player. Why the hell did they sign him again instead of letting him walk! They could have signed him and traded him later he was showing no sign of decline!
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
Because people want him to rebuild, and Feaster doesn't want to do that, Baertschi is the Flames' best prospect by far.
- Thehabsfan93



Yes, yes he is.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 2 @ 2:05 PM ET
Colin Dambrauskas: Jay Feaster: Why The Hate?
- Colin Dambrauskas


I dont think they need a "blow up". They need a mini re-tool something like the Sens have done. Trade some big assets for up and coming youth. Problem is the 2 biggest assets he has to trade he has said are untouchable. If there is ever a year he should do it, its this year because if he could go into next years draft with 3 first round picks (if he traded Iggy and Kipper for 1st +), then the draft next year is deep and could retool the Flames for years to come.
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
I dont think they need a "blow up". They need a mini re-tool something like the Sens have done. Trade some big assets for up and coming youth. Problem is the 2 biggest assets he has to trade he has said are untouchable. If there is ever a year he should do it, its this year because if he could go into next years draft with 3 first round picks (if he traded Iggy and Kipper for 1st +), then the draft next year is deep and could retool the Flames for years to come.
- Iggysbff


Trading Iggy and Kipper would be blowing it up.

The Sens got lucky they drafted a player who is considered the best offensive dman in over a decade.
pbrsimps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2011

Aug 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
I would call the wideman signing a near horrendous move..
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:10 PM ET
It's what any GM should do when signed to a new failing team. Evaluate, and most of the time blow it up. Teams like Calgary aren't making the playoffs, their best players are close to their oldest and the cupboards were bare. Why not blow it up, trade your aging stars get picks/ prospects, draft high.

Toronto was similar when Burke took over, there best player was an aging Sundin who was still a PPG player. Why the hell did they sign him again instead of letting him walk! They could have signed him and traded him later he was showing no sign of decline!

- wolfos412


Any new GM, should arguably take a full year/two before making said decisions.

You cant step in and immediately make drastic moves/changes without spending enough time to fully analyze the team and its needs. See: Burke, Brian.
saneopinion
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 2 @ 2:11 PM ET
I didn't see the PL3 trade on that list, maybe I missed it. Moves like that and the modin move kind of indicated a lack of hockey knowledge that Feaster later admited to. He has surrounded himself with knowledgeable people now but the next question was how much autonomy he had. Was Ken King really pulling the strings as we learned with the GlenX signing?

In my opinion Feaster doesn't get a lot of hate but he does not get any respect due to the ongoing rumours of how much of a hammer he actually wields.

To all of the people who say he should "blow it up", it WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Get over it and look forward to free agent signings. To those who say they should re-tool I say, Hudler, Cervenka, Wideman.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:11 PM ET
The Regehr trade was awful. Not saying he didnt need to go or anything. But that was alot to give up for two AHL players. One Career AHL'er in Byron.
Sam67
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.03.2006

Aug 2 @ 2:12 PM ET
Not @ all... just trying to help.

Pretty ignorant of you to say that...

- jimmc7722



Wasn't speaking specifically of you, just in general, perhaps your ignorance in assuming it was you is the issue. Then again, maybe you are the only Islanders fan alive.
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:12 PM ET
Any new GM, should arguably take a full year/two before making said decisions.

You cant step in and immediately make drastic moves/changes without spending enough time to fully analyze the team and its needs. See: Burke, Brian.

- Colin Dambrauskas



I didn't say when they should blow up though, I said evaluate then most likely blow up. A year sounds good to me, or atleast half to 3/4 a season to see what the teams capable of.
Sam67
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.03.2006

Aug 2 @ 2:15 PM ET
you should try being a leaf fan

i guarantee you we take a hundred times the bashing you guys get

- Dozzer



Yes I get and understand that, but it's more warranted based on the number of years of futility and some of your fan base is just so delusional and in many cases rude.


wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:17 PM ET
Yes I get and understand that, but it's more warranted based on the number of years of futility and some of your fan base is just so delusional and in many cases rude.
- Sam67



Nah, that's just 1 guy with a bunch of ALT accounts making us look bad.
allen_gamble
Joined: 04.05.2012

Aug 2 @ 2:17 PM ET
People keep stating that teams should "tank"...who has ever done this and where did this notion come from?

How many GMs can you say took over a team and, "blew things up"....none that I can think of...

There is no one way to build a cup winning team, and Im sure the season ticket holders would be a little, heck a lot, upset if the team became basement dwellers for several years in order to draft high.

Just ask Edmonton.

- Colin Dambrauskas


Who said anything about tanking, by that you refer to throwing games? NO

"Blowing it up" would refer to building through the draft, i seriuosly hope you figured that out. Like chicago, pitt, caps etc. who have all gone from the bottom to the top after a few years of being in the basement.

And about those oilers.... if you are trying to tell me they wont be in the running for a cup in 2 years and for the next 10 after. rookie of the year this year will have at least 30 goals if not more and yes im talking yak not the high school kid.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Aug 2 @ 2:18 PM ET
Wasn't speaking specifically of you, just in general, perhaps your ignorance in assuming it was you is the issue. Then again, maybe you are the only Islanders fan alive.
- Sam67



That's what I thought... I can't wait for school to start again!!!
scubasteve
Calgary Flames
Location: Ek: A lot happening .. Stay tu, SK
Joined: 12.05.2007

Aug 2 @ 2:19 PM ET
I'm starting to think that those who say "blow it up" believe if they say it often enough, it's gonna happen. Kind of like the Little Engine That Could.... I think I can,... I think I can... I think I can,...
allen_gamble
Joined: 04.05.2012

Aug 2 @ 2:21 PM ET
I dont think they need a "blow up". They need a mini re-tool something like the Sens have done. Trade some big assets for up and coming youth. Problem is the 2 biggest assets he has to trade he has said are untouchable. If there is ever a year he should do it, its this year because if he could go into next years draft with 3 first round picks (if he traded Iggy and Kipper for 1st +), then the draft next year is deep and could retool the Flames for years to come.
- Iggysbff



the sens had prospect depth and were able to keep some key players which obv doesnt hurt when retooling.
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:24 PM ET
Who said anything about tanking, by that you refer to throwing games? NO

"Blowing it up" would refer to building through the draft, i seriuosly hope you figured that out. Like chicago, pitt, caps etc. who have all gone from the bottom to the top after a few years of being in the basement.

And about those oilers.... if you are trying to tell me they wont be in the running for a cup in 2 years and for the next 10 after. rookie of the year this year will have at least 30 goals if not more and yes im talking yak not the high school kid.

- allen_gamble


Yak will not get 30 goals, sure he's a #1 pick but to say he's going to walk into the NHL and score 30 goals in his first year is a bold statement. There's only been like 7 people in NHL history to do that at his age.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:25 PM ET
Who said anything about tanking, by that you refer to throwing games? NO

"Blowing it up" would refer to building through the draft, i seriuosly hope you figured that out. Like chicago, pitt, caps etc. who have all gone from the bottom to the top after a few years of being in the basement.

And about those oilers.... if you are trying to tell me they wont be in the running for a cup in 2 years and for the next 10 after. rookie of the year this year will have at least 30 goals if not more and yes im talking yak not the high school kid.

- allen_gamble


Blowing it up, means moving all current(older) assets, ultimately meaning not having a strong enough team to compete beyond last place...or...setting yourself up for a high draft pick.

Feaster wont be blowing things up. He may move a few assets if they can aid in his vision for the team, but he wont be having any yard sales.

Im sure most fans who attend games agree, albeit a longer and possibly rougher road, trying to remain competitiving while retooling is more entertaining than a fire sale to get high draft picks and waiting 4-5 years to compete again.

"Blowing it up" as it were, is no guaranteed way to succeed.

Show me how said teams, "blew" things up. Developing and strengthening through the draft is one thing, having a fire sale leading to a tanked couple of seasons, is another.
Sam67
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.03.2006

Aug 2 @ 2:34 PM ET
That's what I thought... I can't wait for school to start again!!!
- jimmc7722



relax man...you come out swinging what do you expect in return?
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:39 PM ET
Blowing it up, means moving all current(older) assets, ultimately meaning not having a strong enough team to compete beyond last place...or...setting yourself up for a high draft pick.

Feaster wont be blowing things up. He may move a few assets if they can aid in his vision for the team, but he wont be having any yard sales.

Im sure most fans who attend games agree, albeit a longer and possibly rougher road, trying to remain competitiving while retooling is more entertaining than a fire sale to get high draft picks and waiting 4-5 years to compete again.

"Blowing it up" as it were, is no guaranteed way to succeed.

Show me how said teams, "blew" things up. Developing and strengthening through the draft is one thing, having a fire sale leading to a tanked couple of seasons, is another.

- Colin Dambrauskas


Any thoughts on that Yak comment?
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Aug 2 @ 2:39 PM ET
I think the criticism comes from the fact that he has openly criticized the way other organizations are run and some contracts that other organizations have agreed to. Yet he goes and does the same thing. And the draft this year was brutal for Calgary imho. The draft was considered weak after #10 yet they go out and pick a guy ranked mid 2nd round.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:40 PM ET
Rather easy on the hate. He should rebuild entirely when he has the chance. I think most people expected when Sutter was sacked that Feaster would come in with a demolitions crew instead of plateau and do nothing. I guess his greatest accomplishment thus far was not being dumb enough to trade their first rounders.
- AdamFrench


I have more confidence in Jay that many other GM's in this league. I would like to see the Flames let Feaster see what he can do and give him some time to reshape this team. I am sure he has thought long and hard as to whether he should move Iggy. Maybe Iggy does not want to move and may want to play his last few years with the flames and that is not so bad. I thnk the Flames will be much improved this year. I am thrilled Hartley is here and can not wait to see what Baertschi and Cervenka can do. Hudler could surprise as well. I am cautiously opimistic at this point.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:41 PM ET
I dont think they need a "blow up". They need a mini re-tool something like the Sens have done. Trade some big assets for up and coming youth. Problem is the 2 biggest assets he has to trade he has said are untouchable. If there is ever a year he should do it, its this year because if he could go into next years draft with 3 first round picks (if he traded Iggy and Kipper for 1st +), then the draft next year is deep and could retool the Flames for years to come.
- Iggysbff


By moving Jbo and one of Kipper/Iggy, does that constitute a retool? I think so.

Will it happen? Maybe not now, but if they are not basically guaranteed a playoff appearance come deadline, things will certainly change.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Aug 2 @ 2:42 PM ET
Any thoughts on that Yak comment?
- wolfos412


Not really the place lol
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Aug 2 @ 2:43 PM ET
Any thoughts on that Yak comment?
- wolfos412

Whats the Yak comment?
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